Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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This omega-racist freak has the gall to call other people racist. Holy cow.
Hopefully if he ponders this issue for a while he can think up a reason or two why Palestinian society has not fully flourished as of late BEYOND his idea of them being genetically or culturally inferior.
"So called" Palestinians don't perform particularly well even compared to other MENA groups even after ine generation, when they leave Palestine.
Hard to believe it can be genetical given the comparison to other groups that are genetically indistinguishable from them
Well... there'll always be Mark Spitz.
Plus they've ensured that plenty of tunnel architect's kids got a decent college education and inspired Turkish genre film directors to direct Turkish genre films.
Reviews:
"Better than Goodfellas, Fight Club and The Thing combined! Oh and genocide! involving babies! Victor
"Had a more profound effect on me than the collapse of the Soviet Union" Karl_ThePetulantTeenager_Marx
"So good I linked 5k X posts saying how good it was. Then I linked 5k more cuz why tf not!" Jalfresi
"The director should be shot and his family deported and then shot" Luciom
"I concur with Luciom!" Benjamin Nethanyahu
CV why the hell do you think I would suggest to waste taxpayers money to deport people that have to be killed anyway
in Communist North Korea nameless faceless plainclothes thugs driving unmarked cars will kidnap you off the streets due to your ancestry.
This omega-racist freak has the gall to call other people racist. Holy cow.
Hopefully if he ponders this issue for a while he can think up a reason or two why Palestinian society has not fully flourished as of late BEYOND his idea of them being genetically or culturally inferior.
I’ve never suggested it has anything to do with race. That’s on you.
There have been and are a few notable Palestinians around (that is, notable for things other than terrorism):-- the models Bella Hadid and Gigi Hadid, the late academic / author Edward Said, the US Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, the film actress Clara Khoury, the rapper and record producer Fredwreck (Farid Karam Nassar), the violin and oud virtuoso Simon Shaheen, the late London
Jews have often flourished and been among the world’s greatest minds and thinkers even while facing harsh persecution. Jewish excellence isn’t a modern phenomena. A third of the world worships a dead Jew 2000 years after his death lol.
It’s funny how you get these rabid dogs pulling at their leashes when you bring up simple facts. And you wonder why there’s no meaningful discussion lol.
Having Karl call me racist has to be one of the most delusional posts itt lol.
Every accusation is a confession or something lmao!
The disapora of a large number of people is usually thought to account for much of that, something that hasn't happened to Palestinians or even any other ethnicity in such numbers over such a long time period.
But please continue with your supremacist ideas.
Also funny that I’m being called racist by people who unapologetically blame 100% of the Palestinian’s failings on the Jews.
It’s been obvious forever, but this is not a place for serious discussion.
Is it even possible to be racist towards Palestinians? Think about it.
in Communist North Korea nameless faceless plainclothes thugs driving unmarked cars will kidnap you off the streets due to your ancestry.
"No one has a right to a student visa, no ne has a right to a green card"
What a great answer by Rubio. Mahmoud can go cheer on Hamas and stir up problems somewhere else.
Ethnic cleansing advances.
AP report: Sudan and Somalia asked to take Gazans.
At least they aren't talking about sending them to Djibouti!
I love how Trump has trolled the libs. He has no interest in taking over Gaza. Notice what he did do. He got the Arab countries panicking and actually working toward a solution. Also, he has the libs sighting unverified claims of potential Gazan relocation sights.
"No one has a right to a student visa, no ne has a right to a green card"
What a great answer by Rubio. Mahmoud can go cheer on Hamas and stir up problems somewhere else.
Im not really going to get into legal arguments with you. obv you are wrong but even if people arent allowed to "cheer on Hamas" in this country, this guy was the furthest thing from a Hamas supporter. he was a liberal and borderline collaborationist with the US Empire and Israeli entity.
what this shows is that capitulation and collaboration with the depraved empire is never the correct path. they will chew you up and spit you out when its convenient. look at Zelensky right now.
"So called" Palestinians don't perform particularly well even compared to other MENA groups even after ine generation, when they leave Palestine.
Hard to believe it can be genetical given the comparison to other groups that are genetically indistinguishable from them
People are generally a product of their environments. 80 years in economically unproductive refugee camps on welfare, extreme indoctrination towards religious fundamentalism and victim culture, being led by corrupt gangsters. This is about what you expect.
The environment and incentive structure is horrible. UNRWA has been a complete disaster. And people who think the best thing is just to keep on keeping on as the last 80 years has gone, should not be surprised it will continue to go like this.
The disapora of a large number of people is usually thought to account for much of that, something that hasn't happened to Palestinians or even any other ethnicity in such numbers over such a long time period.
But please continue with your supremacist ideas.
the biggest Palestinian community outside MENA is in... Chile.
500k people of so called Palestinian ancestry.
almost no one ever talks about them, do you know why?
Also funny that I’m being called racist by people who unapologetically blame 100% of the Palestinian’s failings on the Jews.
It’s been obvious forever, but this is not a place for serious discussion.
None of us have ever come close to "unapologetically blam[ing] 100% of the Palestinian’s failings on the Jews", mainly because we're not morons, and also because we're aware of many known non-Jews like Joe Biden and understand their role in all this.
You wouldn't know a serious discussion if it came with a moderator from PBS. STFU.
At least they aren't talking about sending them to Djibouti!
I love how Trump has trolled the libs. He has no interest in taking over Gaza. Notice what he did do. He got the Arab countries panicking and actually working toward a solution. Also, he has the libs sighting unverified claims of potential Gazan relocation sights.
Ah, that classic Machiavellian 4d chess grandmaster Donald Sun Tzu Trump!
No, bro, the guy is an ancient fat buffoon who is only technically literate. Any ownage of libs is accidental and likely a product of him hitting a sweet spot in his drug cycle (nah, I'm joking, he only sleeps 3 hours a day because of his natural work ethic)
I forgot; I came on here to ask for the Zionist take on Mahmoud Khalil. It seems to be a clear case of needless cruelty and a violation of civil rights from our government. The video Victor posted the screengrab of is truly awful to watch. And not that it really matters, but the guy doesn't exactly seem like Osama bin Laden Jr., either. Seems relatively calm and moderate, relative to other activists at least.
From what little I can stomach from the apologists; I've seen them talk about how he broke the rules. You see, there are rules, we all love rules, and if you break a rule, we are justified in doing any kind of awful **** to you, even if the rule itself is horrifying. But I don't know, maybe you have a more compelling reason than that to whisk the guy away to some hellhole down south, far away from his expecting wife, and then to throw him in a cage to presumably get deported. I suspect it will be by pretending that he's a jihadist.
I forgot; I came on here to ask for the Zionist take on Mahmoud Khalil. It seems to be a clear case of needless cruelty and a violation of civil rights from our government. The video Victor posted the screengrab of is truly awful to watch. And not that it really matters, but the guy doesn't exactly seem like Osama bin Laden Jr., either. Seems relatively calm and moderate, re
Most of the countries you think are better than the US he wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes. In nations like Russia, Venezuela, North Korea, China he would have been deported at best and executed at worst after the first protest he participated in. I mean if you were a proponent of American exceptionalism, and you thought this arrest was in violation of such exceptionalism, that is one thing. But you obviously dont believe that, so not sure what the issue is from your perspective.
You cant have it both ways. You cant endlessly rant about how America is on a short list of the worst countries in the world, and then get indignant and outraged when they take an action the vast majority of nations in the world would do.
Pick a lane. If you think America is evil, then you should view this as one of an innumerate amount of data points to support this opinion, and there really isn't much to talk about.
Most of the members of this forum didn't have any problems when they were throwing people in jail for going to the beach during Covid lockdowns. Obviously, the govt at all levels has given itself a lot of latitude to go after Americans for political reasons. It seems most people dont really mind, as long as they perceive the govt is on their side.
That being said, most Americans are sick of the Palestine protests. The current regime clearly couldn't care less, so obviously the protests are not going to drive any change in policy. And this far into the conflict, most people have already made up their mind anyways, so they aren't changing any hearts and minds (at least not in any positive way; maybe people initially sympathetic to the protests might be getting sick of them).
So at this point the protestors are just terrorizing the American people because they are narcissists and they can. And most Americans are sick of it. And are willing to allow the govt to take liberties with interpreting laws to get the terror to stop.
As far as whether this protestor specifically, as a green card holder, broke any of the numerous broad sweeping anti-terrorism laws that have come into effect since 9/11; I admit I dont know. The Trump administration certainly argues he has, so now the courts are going to decide whether they agree with the administration or not.
the biggest Palestinian community outside MENA is in... Chile.
500k people of so called Palestinian ancestry.
almost no one ever talks about them, do you know why?
I'd hazard a guess that maybe Chile isn't forcing them into an open air prison camp?
Most of the members of this forum didn't have any problems when they were throwing people in jail for going to the beach during Covid lockdowns. Obviously, the govt at all levels has given itself a lot of latitude to go after Americans for political reasons. It seems most people dont really mind, as long as they perceive the govt is on their side. That being said, most Amer
actually, as of yet they have not argued that and spokespeople have said the opposite. this is further confirmed by the fact that he hasnt been charged with any crimes.
