Israel/Palestine thread
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"White" is a relative indicator of European/American privilege (no white person is actually white, just as no black person is actually black ldo).
Seeing how many Israeli passport holders are colonialists from America or Europe or recent descendants of them, in the context of this conflict it's reasonable to refer to Israelis as white people and Palestinians as brown.
Sorry bud, once you play the role of western colonial oppressor you get lumped in with the whiteys.
So basically a 2nd or 3rd generation Jew in Israel is european if some of his ancestors were, and hasn't any legitimate claim to live where he (or his parents) were born, while a rwandan that came to the UK 15-20 years ago (or whose both parents did, and he was born in the UK) is a british person 100% and any reference to the fact that he is actually rwandan is racism and a crime of hate speech if used in connection to crimes he committed.
Can't play this game both sides guys, really.
Don't be so stupid.
Everyone should have birthright citizenship (though few countries support this now). Citizenship is what gives people the British or American label.
It's worth noting in addition that the council found that the Israel's tactics which are specifically aimed at reducing the reproductive capability of Palestinians constitutes genocidal acts under the Rome statute.
I don't usually take the effort to highlight the specific heinous things that Israel does because they do them constantly and are highlighted all over. I assume everyone ITT assumes that Israel is at all times doing every evil thing it can get away with. But apparently they are using the Rome statutes as a to-do list and I didn't even know everything on that list. You think they are starving, torturing, displacing, humiliating, and killing as many as they can constantly. Then it's like no, there is more evil you didn't even think of that Israel has been doing.
Reading reports of human rights organizations reporting on Israel is like watching a documentary on the Nazis. You always learn it's actually worse than the worst thing you can imagine. I honestly don't see how Israeli supporters live with themselves or think they are decent people. Do you Israeli supporters secretly worship the Devil or something? Probably you keep a more rational ideology which you don't really confront because you know it can't withstand introspection, something like "kill or be killed", some kind of ideology that if even species as low as snakes adopted it would make them go extinct. The ideology by which Israel is operating is not just sub-human, it's sub-animal.
Deep down they have to know that there is no ideology which can justify the abomination that is Israel which isn't also going to destroy its own purveyors.
Deep down they have to know that there is no ideology which can justify the abomination that is Israel which isn't also going to destroy its own purveyors.
right, there is no defense of Israel left. and thats why they need to resort to crap like deporting a person who, by their own admission broke no laws. and crap like this.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/c...
So basically a 2nd or 3rd generation Jew in Israel is european if some of his ancestors were, and hasn't any legitimate claim to live where he (or his parents) were born, while a rwandan that came to the UK 15-20 years ago (or whose both parents did, and he was born in the UK) is a british person 100% and any reference to the fact that he is actually rwandan is racism and a crime of hate speech if used in connection to crimes he committed.
Can't play this game both sides guys, really.
You're right. Every human should be entitled to go to anything reasonably described as a country, but for damn sure to stay where they were born.
So basically a 2nd or 3rd generation Jew in Israel is european if some of his ancestors were, and hasn't any legitimate claim to live where he (or his parents) were born, while a rwandan that came to the UK 15-20 years ago (or whose both parents did, and he was born in the UK) is a british person 100% and any reference to the fact that he is actually rwandan is racism and a crime of hate speech if used in connection to crimes he committed.
Can't play this game both sides guys, really.
The idea that people can relocate from one country to another is actually really simple to figure out if you aren't locked into a backwards ethnonationalist view of the world. Yes, a person from Africa can move into the UK and become a 100% UK citizen no matter how uncomfortable that makes Nazi twerps like you.
The idea that people can relocate from one country to another is actually really simple to figure out if you aren't locked into a backwards ethnonationalist view of the world. Yes, a person from Africa can move into the UK and become a 100% UK citizen no matter how uncomfortable that makes Nazi twerps like you.
that's only true if you are not allowed to call Israeli leaders "europeans". Try to read again.
"White" is a relative indicator of European/American privilege (no white person is actually white, just as no black person is actually black ldo).
Seeing how many Israeli passport holders are colonialists from America or Europe or recent descendants of them, in the context of this conflict it's reasonable to refer to Israelis as white people and Palestinians as brown.
Sorry bud, once you play the role of western colonial oppressor you get lumped in with the whiteys.
What's wrong with being lumped in with the "whiteys"?
