Israel/Palestine thread

Blue's recent, mask-off, obsessive posting was curious, and uncharacteristic on previous form, so a police interviewer would wonder what he was 'displaying sensitivity' about. President Trump's recent remark that Israel is losing the public-relations war may be awkward for Israelis. Israel lives and moves and has its being only because of an American blank cheque. The slightest hint that that cheque may be altered is going to freak the Israelis out, particularly when they are proposing to annexe the West Bank in reprisal for European recognition of Palestine, which would put the US in a world of diplomatic trouble at the UN and elsewhere (well, everywhere, basically).

I think it was a response to the non-stop illogical posting you see in here (and people like Vic, Jal and the Knight posting disinformation/conspiracies with no evidence) but maybe I missed the “mask-off”’post.

Having people like Victor and Jalfrezi who have never even been to the Middle East try to tell you how things are in the place you’ve lived your entire life can understandably be frustrating.

Is it too soon for the Free BLUE campaign?

It’s leftist tactics. They call you evil, murderer, genocidal, say you should be executed, call you a rapist, racist, colonizer, oppressor, justify your murder, tell you to commit suicide, and then act like they have no idea why you’re mad.

Just because people keep repeating this doesn’t mean it’s true. A lie told a million times is still a lie.

I think it's a little different than the bold .

what could scare Israel a lot would be the USA going *against* them but it's not like they need constant active help by Americans to do things.

It’s a laughably simple and incorrect view of the situation and I’m a bit surprised and disappointed to see 57 On Red share it. The irony being the Gazans and West Bank Palestinians are basically completely reliant on foreign aid while Israel is a stand-alone nation with in-roads in just about every industry and sector imaginable.

Further irony is that October 7th and its consequences have not been good for the economy in the West Bank.

"Relocation" packages.

https://mondoweiss.net/2025/09/leaked-documents-detail-trumps-ethnic-cleansing-plan-for-gaza/

Mondoweiss

Trump’s ethnic cleansing plan leaked

You do realize that Israel would have run out of bombs/components/heavy equipment not long after 10/7 if there weren't multiple shipments arriving from the US every week.

You guys seem to be downplaying the importance of this, but again I ask: who is going to replace the US? Who else out there has a large and powerful voting bloc who believe that their government is doing God's will by helping the Israelis?

Guys like Blue should be having a mental breakdown over this. The Rubicon has been crossed, and the current trajectory is bleak.

as for the bold, India. Hindus really hate Muslims and want them crashed worldwide.

but anyway your example would be USA going *against* Israel. refusing to sell weapons is literally an embargo for those goods, that's being actively against that country. Especially if you sell to KSA and the like no?

while Israel doesn't need them GIFTED that's the idea.

while Palestinians would basically die of hunger if 0 help was sent to them

"Stand-alone nation?" that's the thanks all my tax dollars get? Absolutely disrespectful.

No one here apart from Luciom ever calls for executions and no one calls someone a rapist, justifies their murder or tells them to commit suicide. No wonder your incessant calls for bans aren't met. Keep making things up.

What do you think has caused this change? Social media?

pretty sure victor and others are in favor of members of the IDF being executed, and wrote about it.

A mix of factors I guess but yes mainly social media reporting things that the MSM fails to report objectively - the ever increasing number of dead especially children, and the attacks on hospitals test the patience of a lot of people.

Even the way things are reported differs - SM: "Israel bombed a Gaza hospital twice today". MSM: "A hospital in Gaza was bombed today" - and people started to see through it.

Pretty sure checkraisfold was referring to posters not the IDF.

I think you listen too much to Fuentes and Hamas.

even Wikipedia which is heavily biased against Israel on the topic reports weapon SALES to Israel, and stuff like local and state governments buying Israeli BONDs, which is very different from gifting money.

why do you think American taxpayers directly funded any aid to Israel for the war in Gaza? what's your source?

Americans are MAKING MONEY with that war

he referred to Blue, a poster who is also a member of the IDF

You don’t have any clue what happens with your tax dollars.

I think you should educate yourself about Israel and their economy.

The only time I called for a ban it was of a literal nazi and they were swiftly banned. And victor has called blue all those things.

I pointed out rightly that if luciom’s ban was correct then victor should be banned, because he spews actual vile disgusting antisemitic hatred. I never called for him to actually be banned. The point is that crossnerd sweeps for the far left, which is accurate.

As a final point, I said this is “leftist tactics”, which doesn’t mean it’s all inclusive of everything in this exchange. So once again you’re being the vile dishonest loser that you always are, and employing more leftist gaslighting that people are getting sick and tired of.

This was from a newsreader on UKs channel 4 news recently.

“It’s very easy to end up arguing about genocide… given how many people Israel could kill if they were trying to exterminate the population…

No, what you said in reply to DBF was

When you use the word “you” which I’ve bolded for you you're generalising your complaint so it’s no longer about how only one person is addressed by the evil leftists.

You’re a very dishonest poster.

Anyways, what happened to that story about IDF rapists that was supposed to come out and blow the lid off the whole conflict? The one that’s being suppressed by Hasbara bots? Did that story ever hit the mainstream or is it still only on the Telegram channels (which Victor basically admitted to never personally accessing)?

So the terrorist enabling flotilla which was delayed by rain is regrouping and this time members of parliament from Spain and Italy (and maybe other countries?) are joining it, both national parliament and the european one.

Ofc all from parties on the left or radical left.

That checks out because it’s purely a political stunt and has nothing to do with trying to deliver aid to the Gazans.

Yeah, we all know the dishonest tactics that people like you use. You just got done calling someone a child murderer with no evidence, which you got told by a mod to “chill out” on (which is a hilarious slap on the wrist but whatever).