Moderation Questions for Whiners
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
You are easy.
You are an old school U.S. liberal. Personally, you are doing fine. Trump hasn't destroyed your life and isn't going to destroy your life. But you were REALLY hoping for something better, hoping so hard that you actually believed it was going to happen. You thought around the time that Obama was elected that we were making real progress in this country. Trump has annihilated your optimism and now you are angry.
If you have grandchildren, you are very nice to them.
aaahhaaa. you got some right but I'm definitely not an old school liberal. Didn't vote for Obama either time. In fact, I've voted every republican presidential candidate up until trump. He changed the entire way I look at politics.
In fact, I was really sort of "whatever" with politics in general. Just didn't care that much. No matter what happened politically there was always some semblance of stability. The huge bureaucracy ensured that things don't change all that much.
But, yeah, Trump annihilated that for sure and I am angry.
I have a 20 something niece and we are very close.
You require almost zero effort.
Although you post a fair bit in the Politics, you are much more interested in life experiences than in the nuances of politics. You probably think of yourself as leftist, but not in the same way that Karl OG and Victor do. You don't sit around reading Marxist philosophy. You equate leftism with not believing any information that comes from a source of institutional power.
IMO, you obviously have a weird blind spot when it comes to crackpot conspiracies, and your overall worldview makes the burden-flipping that is so endemic to conspiratorial thinking seem reasonable to you.
You are the paradigmatic example of "I met a guy while traveling who believed a bunch of crazy ****, but otherwise was easygoing."
FWIW, I would be more curious to live your life for a week than I would most people here.
Biggerboat and I used to be at each others throats constantly over politics in POG. It’s like the wildest twist that he’s one of my favorite people here now. Our battles were vicious lol. Love you, bb ♥
aaahhaaa. you got some right but I'm definitely not an old school liberal. Didn't vote for Obama either time. In fact, I've voted every republican presidential candidate up until trump. He changed the entire way I look at politics.
In fact, I was really sort of "whatever" with politics in general. Just didn't care that much. No matter what happened politically there was always some semblance of stability. The huge bureaucracy ensured that things don't change all that much.
But, yeah, Trum
Oh well. I was bound to miss at some point.
Rick,
Luciom was absolutely proven wrong about the Asian thing by the right farming study he posted. Are you both impervious to facts?
this is a wild interpretation of a prior discussion we had
but it tracks that thinking you disagreed with something proved something so i'm not surprised in the slightest
this is a wild interpretation of a prior discussion we had
but it tracks that thinking you disagreed with something proved something so i'm not surprised in the slightest
Problem is that here, as in other forums, a lot of people are proud non-readers. People don't even read their own posts. You certainly didn't even follow and I'm not sure Luciom himself quite followed even how he obviously changed goal posts in the middle and then circled back to conclude that his original position before being forced to change goal posts was right.
Problem is that here, as in other forums, a lot of people are proud non-readers. People don't even read their own posts. You certainly didn't even follow and I'm not sure Luciom himself quite followed even how he obviously changed goal posts in the middle and then circled back to conclude that his original position before being forced to change goal posts was right.
I tell you that wheat vs rice cultivation makes people different wrt propensity to collectivism.
you deny, calling it racism, then I link a paper showing that just one generation of rice v wheat cultivation changes culture measurably.
you then claim that means that as soon as you remove the rice v wheat divide, the previous collectivist priming of rice cultivation disappears (with no source for this wild claim).
I counter that if one generation already creates a measurable divide (as per my source which you accepted), millennia necessarily create an absurdly insane divide, which means that even if it can fade away, it requires centuries (if ever, if the divide doesn't inprint in genes through selection which it should given how massive and pervasive to all elements of society it is, and given political attitudes are inheritable).
you claim that's goalpost shifting, i give up wasting time on the topic with you.
you then bring it back here again for unknown to me reasons.
remember all this was about my claim that the Singaporean model isn't exportable to all societies that arent ultra-collectivist in attitudes . and it works there because it's all people from rice cultivating cultures
yep Lamarckian, it passes through generations even if it's an acquired trait (and builds on itself).
do you know what that means?
It's stupid and you are making it up that it adds up until it's "an absurdly insane divide". The study you posted showing that changes happen almost immediately obviously is counter to your notion. You make an allusion that it's like a genetic thing that adds up and creates some very different kinds of people who are just born different, is immensely racist and fascist. It's really the dividing ideological thing between you fascist totalitarians and communist totalitarians that behaviors are genetic, or you may be trying to be a weasel about something deeply ingrained that isn't genetic here.
not going to waste more time on genetics with someone who denies the uncontroversial claim that all behavioral propensities are inheritable at least in part.
Problem is that here, as in other forums, a lot of people are proud non-readers. People don't even read their own posts. You certainly didn't even follow and I'm not sure Luciom himself quite followed even how he obviously changed goal posts in the middle and then circled back to conclude that his original position before being forced to change goal posts was right.
no you're the one who has reading comprehension issues
just because luc shared an article which you felt negated his point doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist
article or not, it's a mainstream point of view held in not only academia here but by the actual people who you weirdly think you're white knighting for by pretending something they themselves say "yes that accurately describes us" is a lie
so in other words, i don't need to read the article that luc posted nor give your subjective refutation of it any platform, they are both meaningless - your confirmation bias didn't prove anything
i can post an article that says luc is actually irish, you can refute it by mentioning the article says he's black irish and in the end neither of us are going to change the mind of luc as to his own nationality
this is also why i don't believe this to be real
You have lefties, like Microbet, who is a staunch believer of individual choice who is mostly a pro capitalist
not once have i took him at his word with this because he's deeply biased and spouts a lot of nonsense regularly and the only times he's all about "but i support freedom brah" it's usually when he's backed into a corner and has not logical response and he feels like this is his trump card because he thinks it grants him argumentative immunity since most of the people he's talking to find themselves in an undesirable position of then arguing against freedom
