Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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People are generally very kind towards the homeless here and see to it that they have food, but what they universally want is a ****ing roof over their heads.


by mongidig m

Would you prefer calling them "criminals"

I think it's the "alien" part that throws people off-- but those aren't real.


by jalfrezi m

People are generally very kind towards the homeless here and see to it that they have food, but what they universally want is a ****ing roof over their heads.

In the UK it is worse than here, but here in Italy roofs are super cheap in a lot of the country, just not where I live .

There is no human right to live in San Francisco specifically and I suppose you agree with that though.

Being homeless in London is an oxymoron, the **** are you doing in London if you are poor to begin with.

Do you agree that if housing is available for them elsewhere in the USA and they are offered that, then the problem is not a lack of roofs though?


I believe homeless people migrate to SF because the climate is gentle all year round. If you offered them affordable and suitable accommodation in the places they came from they'd probably jump at it.


by d2_e4 m

That was a ****ing nightmare.

You sound like the bourgeois in Boudu Saved From Drowning, who takes a tramp in who is uncouth and who spits in his precious collection of Balzac books. LOL



by jalfrezi m

I believe homeless people migrate to SF because the climate is gentle all year round. If you offered them affordable and suitable accommodation in the places they came from they'd probably jump at it.

Yes it's unlivable in much cheaper New Mexico lol


by jalfrezi m

You sound like the bourgeois in Boudu Saved From Drowning, who takes a tramp in who is uncouth and who spits in his precious collection of Balzac books. LOL

Sorry, I'm a philistine, 1932 foreign cinema references might as well be in geostationary orbit, they're that far over my head. But aside from anything else, it was easily a couple of grands' worth of electronics, nothing irreplaceable but also not ideal.


If the hi-fi gear wasn't British he did you a favour.


On second thoughts if he had to listen to you telling him how you're on a huge contractor's rate I don't blame him for taking stuff.

ALL PROPERTY IS THEFT


by jalfrezi m

If the hi-fi gear wasn't British he did you a favour.

Hi-fi gear lol. This you?


Damnit. I initially typed "stereo" and then thought no, that sounds ancient. lol


by jalfrezi m

On second thoughts if he had to listen to you telling him how you're on a huge contractor's rate I don't blame him for taking stuff.

ALL PROPERTY IS THEFT

I like your thinking. This is exactly why I'm justified in defrauding anyone who has more money than I do. Especially HMRC, they've got loads.


No, because unlike him you clearly have (more than) enough, you greedy ****er.


I meant crimes of poverty, ldo.

Anyway, I don’t engage in debates about homelessness anymore because it makes me crash out, like every single time. Now I just do the work and don’t bother trying to convince anybody else.


by jalfrezi m

No, because unlike him you clearly have (more than) enough, you greedy ****er.

For my edification, at what net worth does stealing from others just because they have more than you go from being OK to being not OK?


One time I was involved in this animal rescue group and there was a constant suspicion of unhoused people with their dogs and accusations of theft, so I sat everybody down and demonstrated through math and data that it was not and could not be true that homeless people steal pets at a higher rate than the general public, and that even if every homeless person stole one animal, which we know they don’t, it would still only account for something like 7% of all thefts, so they needed to stop harassing the unhoused people.

They kicked me out of the group, and then I tried to get them all fired and their funding revoked.


by d2_e4 m

For my edification, at what net worth does stealing from others just because they have more than you go from being OK to being not OK?

It's one of those things that one instinctively knows when it's right, a bit like a fine pint of real ale.


by Crossnerd m

One time I was involved in this animal rescue group and there was a constant suspicion of unhoused people with their dogs and accusations of theft, so I sat everybody down and demonstrated through math and data that it was not and could not be true that homeless people steal pets at a higher rate than the general public, and that even if every homeless person stole one animal,

OMG


by Crossnerd m

One time I was involved in this animal rescue group and there was a constant suspicion of unhoused people with their dogs and accusations of theft, so I sat everybody down and demonstrated through math and data that it was not and could not be true that homeless people steal pets at a higher rate than the general public, and that even if every homeless person stole one animal,

what made you cap the model at 1 theft per person max, wouldn't a serial animal kidnapper steal as many as he could?

did that possibility even touch your mind?


Professional homeless animal kidnappers itt


by Luciom m

what made you cap the model at 1 theft per person max, wouldn't a serial animal kidnapper steal as many as he could?

Yes, and then hide them all in his basement. Oh, wait.


by Crossnerd m

I meant crimes of poverty, ldo.

Anyway, I don’t engage in debates about homelessness anymore because it makes me crash out, like every single time. Now I just do the work and don’t bother trying to convince anybody else.

it's fixable everywhere.

deport all immigrant homeless (make it so that legal residence permits are lost with homelessness), and house your homeless citizens in the cheapest area of the country.


by d2_e4 m

Yes, and then hide them all in his basement. Oh, wait.

and then torture and kill them, or sell them elsewhere, or eat them.

what do you think people do when they steal a pet? collect them in a private zoo?


by jalfrezi m

Professional homeless animal kidnappers itt

why model as they couldn't exist? for all violent crimes, a tiny minority commits most of them, almost always on a serial basis.

why would pet stealing be different?


by Luciom m

and then torture and kill them, or sell them elsewhere, or eat them.

what do you think people do when they steal a pet? collect them in a private zoo?

I can't say I've given it too much thought. But now that you mention it, yes, I heard that they're eating the dogs and they're eating the cats, it's all starting to come together.

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