Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
you're falsely attributing identity politics to being a liberal cornerstone when instead it's a brand new fringe element that has emerged and hijacked the partyremove identity politics, and i'm 85/15 dem/gop split in terms of policymind you, my senior thesis was that w bush was a more liberal president than clinton (if you remove the party affiliation and just look purely at hi
I mean, you seem pretty fiscally conservative and socially somewhere in the centre I'd say, so my question is what specific positions you hold that makes you say you're a liberal? What does this 85% comprise?
I mean, you seem pretty fiscally conservative and socially somewhere in the centre I'd say, so my question is what specific positions you hold that makes you say you're a liberal? What does this 85% comprise?
Clinton was the only one to balance the budget since WW2. Big fan of deportation of illegals as well. Big fan of working requirements for welfare. Didn't love the idea of gay marriage.
You see they moved dramatically to the left, and 90s liberals are now conservatives
Clinton was the only one to balance the budget since WW2. Big fan of deportation of illegals as well. Big fan of working requirements for welfare. Didn't love the idea of gay marriage.
You see they moved dramatically to the left, and 90s liberals are now conservatives
So Clinton wasn't a liberal then, cool. I was asking about rickroll, though. I'm not saying it as a criticism, I don't think I'm a liberal either. I'm just wondering what makes him say that he is.
So Clinton wasn't a liberal then, cool. I was asking about rickroll, though. I'm not saying it as a criticism, I don't think I'm a liberal either. I'm just wondering what makes him say that he is.
no, so Clinton was a liberal, it's most people on the left today which are to the left of liberals, and liberals now are the center/center right
I mean, you seem pretty fiscally conservative and socially somewhere in the centre I'd say, so my question is what specific positions you hold that makes you say you're a liberal? What does this 85% comprise?
I won't speak for rickroll specifically, but the real answer for some people is some variation of "I like weed and it would be really convenient if I could buy it from a shop on my corner."
The Republican Party was specifically founded as the abolitionist party and Lincoln was their first president. Hence the South was Democrat up to the 1960s and beyond because they hated Lincoln (and black people in the South, who probably didn't feel that way, generally didn't get the vote). Historically, there is nothing all that decent or liberal about Democrats.
I mean, you seem pretty fiscally conservative and socially somewhere in the centre I'd say, so my question is what specific positions you hold that makes you say you're a liberal? What does this 85% comprise?
mainly, i think the government should mostly function as duct tape
make sure roads are in order, ensure electricity and water are functioning, and heavily regulate or even directly control anything that it required for basic living - this is priority #1 for me and in a GOP only government, all these would be turned over to private enterprises
ie nearly every facet of our healthcare system is operated by privately owned enterprises, even the the hospitals which are supposedly non-profit still charge roughly the same as their for-profit counterparts - so it's more of a tax loophole than anything else
look at europe and it's mostly publicly owned, and in the few cases where it's not majority publicly owned such as germany (but still to a much lower degree than the USA) they overcome that by regulating it to the point where it still serves more so in the public interest than their own
these are all supposedly democrat ideals where the GOP would privatize everything and let the market sort itself out
obviously the devil is in the details regarding how we would transition, even if i were in complete control right now after leading a successful junta, i would still go about enacting this reform slowly and methodically (would probably be too focused on eliminating potential rivals to power like rococo first few months anyway to ensure i could stay in power long enough to fulfill my goals)
but this, there's no way any sane person could look at a chart like this and assume we have a clean system that doesn't need to be amended

The most expensive and the worst outcomes.
Clinton was the only one to balance the budget since WW2. Big fan of deportation of illegals as well. Big fan of working requirements for welfare. Didn't love the idea of gay marriage.
You see they moved dramatically to the left, and 90s liberals are now conservatives
When the idiots in Rome finally conceded that the Earth orbited the sun and not vice-versa, did they suddenly become more liberal for changing their position and opposing what it says in TheGoodBook? Or was it simply they became educated on the facts of the matter and their earlier positions were simply uninformed and wrong?
@Rickroll - so the thing that makes you a liberal is that you are anti privatising utilities and pro healthcare regulation?
Or number 11 but why let the facts stand in the way of a MAGGOT argument.
Characteristic Health care system performance ranking
Australia 1
Norway 2
Switzerland 3
Netherlands 4
Sweden 5
France 6
Germany 7
New Zealand 8
United Kingdom 9
Canada 10
United States 11
i legit didn't understand whatever point he was trying to make with that post - i don't mean that as a dig on him nor the post, i honestly had no clue what he was trying to convey
i legit didn't understand whatever point he was trying to make with that post - i don't mean that as a dig on him nor the post, i honestly had no clue what he was trying to convey
I think it was just that a lot of people who are pro weed legalisation call themselves liberals for that reason alone. That's how I understood it.
I think it was just that a lot of people who are pro weed legalisation call themselves liberals for that reason alone. That's how I understood it.
Yes. I obviously wasn't entirely serious, but there are some people who run in poker circles whose political ideology begins and ends with wanting little or no restrictions on the things they personally enjoy.
“Culturally, many Azerbaijanis might be considered “rude” according to Western standards” seems unproblematic.