[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

You guys are so cynical, I'm sure Deuces will be back any second now with the link to the FEMA report. He strikes me as a trustworthy and honest guy.

Apparently I've been talking to a class of people who don't know that argument by authority is invalid, a fallacy. The fact that I've engaged so many such people over such a length of time does call me to question my own intellectual class. So if your strategy was to act so stupid as to make me question my intellect by even talking to you then good job.

As to the burden of proof...My argument is that the government never met it's burden of proof. So that puts you defending the government's case. If you're not defending the government's case then what is it you think you are doing?

Hey Deuces, you mentioned that the FEMA report contained something about molten steel. Could you link to that please? Thanks in advance.

I enjoy having some free time to kill here but, believe it or not, I do have some other things to do from time to time.

There is plenty of video of what would figure to be molten steel, both pre collapse and at ground zero. You can't do a chemical level analysis on video, but you can see the after effects of steel having been in a molten state, such as bending and twisting into shapes which would break steel not in a molten state. The aftermath also saw steel fused with other materials in ways which could not happen unless the steel was in a molten state.

Once the response teams at ground zero concluded no one else was trapped and alive there they basically flooded the place to kill the fires and bring the temperature down. That didn't work. The temperatures persisted for months. Why do you think that didn't work (if you can use Google to verify the premise)? What was fueling these fires such that they couldn't be extinguished with water?

Could you let me know where I can find this FEMA report please? Thanks.

Hey Deuces, why did you lie about there being mention of molten steel in the FEMA report?

Will you please at least be honest enough to admit that you have no plans to post the link you assured us you'd post for us?

Asking you to support your repeated assertions that molten steel was found at ground zero and was reported by fema. I have made no assertions I need to defend. You have.

Are you withdrawing that assertion?

Deuces really has mastered all the proofs:

• 1. Proof by repeated assertion
  
• 2. Proof by personal incredulity
  
• 3. Proof by psychoanalysis of interlocutors
  
• 4. Proof by "it's not peer reviewed"
  
• 5. Proof by "just think about it"
  
• 6. Proof by straight up lying about existence of evidence
  

7. Proof by 'you didn't prove me wrong.'

That is not what 'molten' means.

Reminder: 4 full days ago, Deuces McKracken said this:

He has been asked at least a dozen times to provide literally ANY of this "plenty of compelling evidence for the presence of large amounts of molten steel," but especially the FEMA reports, since that would be the most definitive.

To date, he has provided zero of any of it.

Zero.

Nada.

He has also not retracted his claim.

For those watching that might be undecided, this is what intellectual dishonesty looks like. People that do this are DELUDED and KNOW IT. They are lying to themselves, actively, and this directly leads to them lying to you. CALL THEM OUT ON IT REPEATEDLY.

Hey, Deucy? How's that FEMA report coming along?

If you don't have it, please just say so. Kinda rude to leave us hanging like this.

I should have qualified that there may be no limit on what people will accept from authority. I'm anti-authority, so you vilify me instinctually. After all, I'm challenging the people who you think give you your treats. I bad. Nom noms good. Bad man threaten nom noms. Bad man insane.

I wonder if I could ever get you to realize that there isn't much difference, across a lot of significant comparison points, between you and a circus animal that performs for a food reward. In some ways I think you are even more pathetic. At least an Orca will kill or injure the trainer if it thinks it performed the behavior and the trainer held out on them. Orcas apparently have some sense of self respect. I can't imagine you rebelling like that ever, no matter what these people in charge ever do. I could be wrong. I hope I am.

Ding, another post with no evidence.

Did I not link to a video of molten metal pouring out of the south tower? I say that is molten steel due to the color and the preponderance of steel in the composition of the building. You won't say what you think it is (because you're a coward). I'm pretty happy to end that debate there. I think it's on you to make the case it was aluminum if that's what you believe. But you won't even say what you believe and keep making me out to be the dodger when you're the dodger.

As to the other evidence...it isn't secret. Google is your friend. You want me to go clip pictures of molten metal or clear evidence of steel from ground zero having been in a molten state? Eh. It's a google search away. Prove you have any interest in the truth and make the effort. I've stated it is out there. It is one search away; steel from columns bent into pretzels, steel fused with other materials which only could happen were the steel molten. There are images of glowing hot steel being lifted out of the rubble. There are workers, tradesmen who know their stuff, saying there were rivers of molten steel flowing under the ground zero. There are NASA thermo imaging showing insanely high temperatures which support the possibility. This was at all 3 collapse sites.

Why does this not interest you to pursue? If you said there was hard evidence supporting the official narrative I would be very interested in it. Do you see how that distinguishes me and what I'm about from you and what you're about? You are trying to soothe yourself by convincing yourself that I and the movement (for lack of a better word) I draw from are insane idiots and that, really, the world is ok and ordered. But ask yourself whether that would really ne necessary unless deep down you feel that the official story is a fraud.

Really? This is the best you can do? You are really just a pathetic lying piece of ****. It is just a complete waste of time to interact with such a duplicitous dumb ****..

Didn't ask for a video of molten metal. There is absolutely nothing indicating that's even what it is. If you'll recall, I demonstrated it could've just as easily been electrical by posting a video of electrical sparks that looked just like it.

We are well aware of your ability to make unsupported assertions. There was no need to do it again.

No. I've been very clear in what I'm asking for. Why are you asking me what I want?

I'm not reading the rest of that sht because I could not care less what you say until you provide ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE to support your assertion. You are still at zero.

LIAR.

How's that FEMA clip coming along?

Can't you at least acknowledge that you were lying to us when you said you'd provide it for us?

Yeah, it's a bit of a mystery what everyone keeps asking you for, to be fair. Just impossible to tell.

Deuces, all those posts were from the last 2 or 3 days. I guess you thought you were so smart and we were so dumb that we totally forgot and you could just lie about what you were being asked for and we wouldn't notice, right?

Deuces, you are a worthless, lying POS oxygen thief. Like all the other commies, you seem to think lying is only wrong when other people do it.

What do you want him to do? Draw a picture of molten metal?

I just learned that #7 went because a cow knocked over a kerosene lamp.