President Elon Musk

President Elon Musk

He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly

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21 December 2024 at 02:21 PM
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by microbet k

Pity the Democrat party doesn't believe in that.


by Brian James k

Pity the Democrat party doesn't believe in that.

Could be the first post of yours I agree with.

Only a tiny percentage of people actually want free speech and that most certainly does not include Trump or Musk.


by Brian James k

Pity the Democrat party doesn't believe in that.

Who’s banning media in the White House I wonder ….


There is no cancel culture outside of a few very specific cases, some warranted and some more questionable, but almost all limited to the Hollywood lexicon. There has never been an issue with freedom of speech, its just the right wants freedom of speech to mean, "you don't shame me for expressing abhorrent opinions" which is about as far from free speech as it gets.

This is a normal level of hypocrisy (lack of accountability) from right wingers that drives normal people insane


by Montrealcorp k

Who’s banning media in the White House I wonder ….

and of course the questionable nature of their actions regarding freedom of press and freedom of speech


by coordi k

There is no cancel culture outside of a few very specific cases, some warranted and some more questionable, but almost all limited to the Hollywood lexicon. There has never been an issue with freedom of speech, its just the right wants freedom of speech to mean, "you don't shame me for expressing abhorrent opinions" which is about as far from free speech as it gets.

This is a normal level of hypocrisy (lack of accountability) from right wingers that drives normal people insane

Bullshit.

The left hates freedom of speech.


by King Spew k

... and maybe REALIZE that "they" are at fault for their own misery. I suspect that many will not because the current administration likes to blame anyone else.

And the funny part is the wasteful deep state money trough is going to explode thanks to doge. It's not a done deal yet and maybe someone will stop it, but I'm on the board of a startup for energy storage and distribution devices, the founder has a few patents related to semi solid state batteries and the initial goal, which would have hopefully lead to US based manufacturing and engineering jobs, has been shelved to try to just cash in on government contracts that would have been flagged as conflicts of interests under previous administrations. But the thought is that won't be hard to overcome now if the right people are given a cut. If it was just up to me I would probably not do it as it's 10s of millions of dollars for nothing to people who don't need it rather than taking a risk create something of value. But that's the problem with taking venture capital. At least the main talent will be free to try again from scratch if this goes through, hopefully learning a lesson about how and from whom to take money.


by Montrealcorp k

Who’s banning media in the White House I wonder ….

i'm very much on record being outraged with the recent banning of AP from the whitehouse

but...

press access to the white house is incredibly restricted - always has been

while you and i would agree with alex jones and sid's nazi blog should not be given access and AP should be given access, it still remains that you're living in fantasy land if you think this is the first instance of press restriction in the white house


by Brian James k

Bullshit.

Instead of crying over woke stuff, why don't you address the part about how this administration doesn't believe in a free press?


by rickroll k

i'm very much on record being outraged with the recent banning of AP from the whitehouse

but...

press access to the white house is incredibly restricted - always has been

while you and i would agree with alex jones and sid's nazi blog should not be given access and AP should be given access, it still remains that you're living in fantasy land if you think this is the first instance of press restriction in the white house

Yeah, all this mumbo jumbo would make sense if AP was never part of the press pool in the White House.


by Brian James k

Bullshit.

The left hates freedom of speech.

Welp, you've convinced me with this compelling argument


by Land O Lakes k

Instead of crying over woke stuff, why don't you address the part about how this administration doesn't believe in a free press?

What are you mumbling about now?

What do you want me to address exactly? Be specific.


by Brian James k

What are you mumbling about now?

What do you want me to address exactly? Be specific.

First Amendment. Have you heard of it?


by Land O Lakes k

First Amendment. Have you heard of it?

No. Explain it to me.


by coordi k

Welp, you've convinced me with this compelling argument

lol


by coordi k

Welp, you've convinced me with this compelling argument

About as compelling as yours.


by Brian James k

No. Explain it to me.

I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.


by coordi k

There is no cancel culture outside of a few very specific cases, some warranted and some more questionable, but almost all limited to the Hollywood lexicon. There has never been an issue with freedom of speech, its just the right wants freedom of speech to mean, "you don't shame me for expressing abhorrent opinions" which is about as far from free speech as it gets.

This is a normal level of hypocrisy (lack of accountability) from right wingers that drives normal people insane

Med school teachers have been heavily harassed, suspended for courses and so on because they failed to say "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women" but sure nothing has ever happened of the sort


by Brian James k

Bullshit.

The left hates freedom of speech.

Most of it does, but a small segment of the left is the only group that doesn't and, as a concept, freedom of speech is most certainly leftist.


by coordi k

There is no cancel culture outside of a few very specific cases, some warranted and some more questionable, but almost all limited to the Hollywood lexicon. There has never been an issue with freedom of speech, its just the right wants freedom of speech to mean, "you don't shame me for expressing abhorrent opinions" which is about as far from free speech as it gets.

This is a normal level of hypocrisy (lack of accountability) from right wingers that drives normal people insane

I would like to be able to make this case, but the Biden admin literally had the FBI talking to Facebook about what it should restrict.

I think you're right about it mostly being BS, but the "there has never been an issue with freedom of speech" part is wrong.


by rickroll k

i'm very much on record being outraged with the recent banning of AP from the whitehouse

but...

press access to the white house is incredibly restricted - always has been

while you and i would agree with alex jones and sid's nazi blog should not be given access and AP should be given access, it still remains that you're living in fantasy land if you think this is the first instance of press restriction in the white house

You are right , trump in his first term did it as well


how many people got fired for supporting Palestine the last year and a half?


by Victor k

how many people got fired for supporting Palestine the last year and a half?

Luciom thinks those people should be deported or shot. Not exaggerating. It's wild that he even pretends to support freedom of speech.


by Brian James k

Bullshit.

The left hates freedom of speech.

Examples?


by Luciom k

Med school teachers have been heavily harassed, suspended for courses and so on because they failed to say "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women" but sure nothing has ever happened of the sort

You mean private companies decided what they want their employees to say? I thought that was the kind of thing you support; what does it have to do with free speech?

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