LeBron > Jordan GOAT Super AIDS Containment, solved #22999 post by Matt R. (addendum #23174)
Very impressed with the minute sequence where LeBron clearly lost the ball headed to the rim, heat got the ball anyway and scored, then he elbows his defender in the chin, drawing a defensive foul and stern talking to from the official and hitting a 3.
It's these ref assisted 5 point swings in close games that truly bring out the best in great players.
Link to post of why Elon Musk is the true GOAT: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
The thread that will go on for years..........
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Kyrie averaged 29 in the 17' Finals but Lebron's your-turn-my-turn skillset lost by record amount with 2 franchise players as teammates.. The so-called goat cannot lose by record amount with 2 other stars like Lebron lost in 14' and 17'.
Btw, we'll witness Lebron's your-turn-my-turn skillset lose this year with Luka - we'll witness again why he's inferior.
And don't complain about Kyrie's injury because you lebron fans want to praise him for beating the 18' Celtics without Kyrie.. So stahp it.
Wtf cares about 2017 ?
KD was on the warriors lol .
You really believe LeBron Kyrie were favourites?
Ps: yes lebron beat the 2018 Celtics so what ?
U claiming the Celtics had a shot vs the warriors with KD in 2018 ?
You know FG , if you had a position that had any value about LeBron not being top 10, you wouldn’t had to dig so deep in any dark corner you could find to try to find a talking point to hold LeBron accountable for not being top 10 .
But u just can’t -> u have to make dubious uncorrelated events to try to make a point .
That’s usually a bad sign about « truth » or facts .
Teams don't bother to try against Lebron's Lakers.
Teams didn't bother to try against the Bulls when Pippen led a Jordan less team.
It's all so convenient and senseless.
When you have a lie, then you lost.
No one has Lebron's choking resume, such as playing worse than anyone ever has in the 07' Finals and 08' ECSF (35% and 6 TO's) - no one ever played that badly, and then the historic meltdown in 2010 that caused "the decision", or the goat choke in 2011...
Imagine melting down so hard that it makes you give up and team-up with opponents... When Lebron first entered the NBA, no one expected him to give up after Year 7 and team up with opponents thereafter.
It show
https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/bigges...
The Biggest NBA Playoff Betting Upsets of the Past 30 Seasons
Preseason la 2004 +140
Pre final 2004 -700 !!
From the article :
beating the Lakers by at least eight points in their wins, and pulled off the biggest upset in NBA Finals history.
Preseason Miami 2011 +170
Pre final 2011. -180
Who was the biggest choke again in a final ?
Yeah 2 players top 10 ever playing together with 2 other top 75 players vs piston ( 000000 top 75 players) …
And almost swept lol.
https://www.sportsoddshistory.com/nba-ma...
Ps: btw warriors in 2015 and 2016 were favorites at -220 and they lost in 2016 .
Who’s the biggest choke between steph and lebron again ?
Shaq/kobe/curry easy top 10 even tho they choke more then lebron on the biggest stage of all -> how strange ….
Guess another « FG facts » out the window ….
Meanwhile, back at All-Star Weekend in San Francisco, the James-Dončić partnership dominated conversations. The early reviews were positive.
"I think LeBron is kind of secure in his game and what he brings to the table. That makes him a great teammate and that allows him to welcome guys with open arms when they come to his team," Phoenix Suns star Kevin Durant said. "He don't got to feel like he don't have to do too much to make guys comfortable. He just plays his game. He fits in with anybody.
"When you've got guys that can play off any player, smart and experienced like that, it'll work. When you've got talented, high-IQ guys, it'll take some time obviously to work out the kinks, but in the long run I think they'll be pretty sweet together."
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I wonder why Kevin Durant says that LeBron James and his game “fits in with anybody”, given that his career assisted fg% is slightly below 40%, which turns his teammates into spot up shooters and role players. That’s hard to make sense of. Certainly he must know the truth about assisted fg%, given that he’s reading this thread and adjusting his game accordingly? It can’t possibly be true that Kevin Durant thinks LeBron James is good at basketball and creates a lot of assists for his team, which is a good thing (leading to 3 championships in 5 years between 2012 and 2016 — the definition of a dynasty given in this very thread). That just isn’t possible. It is the basketball experts, NBA players, and professional coaches that must be wrong.
Yeah FG doesn't understand odds.
Literally couldn't understand forth grade math that showed LeBron outperformed the odds when pre-season favourite over his career. Out-performed Kobe as well.
But, he keeps saying LeBron's record when pre-season favourite. Thinking it's an insult, when it's actually a good record.
It's sad when LeBron is so good that you have to use stats that are actually good when you are trying to argue against him.
Most intelligent people would drop it from their repertoire when it was pointed out, but he continues to use it.
Teams don't bother to try against Lebron's Lakers.
Teams didn't bother to try against the Bulls when Pippen led a Jordan less team.
It's all so convenient and senseless.
How is Luka even playing with Lebron anyway?
Rigged.. That's how.. The league rigged it - that's easily the best explanation for the trade.. By far.. There's no other viable explanation.
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I wonder why Kevin Durant says that LeBron James and his game “fits in with anybody
Luka is #2 in playoff PPG behind Jordan, so he's a goat scorer that is being held under 20 points in 3 of 4 games.
This cratering of Luka's stats adds to the long list of teammates declining alongside Lebron, such as Westbrook, Ingram, Love, Bosh
So you can post political BS quotes from player but they're just BS to answer dumb media questions - the reality is that Lebron has the most bad fits ever - no one had more notable, historic bad fits as Lebron.
Watch closely when the next team beats the Lakers - they won't get covered AT ALL and the story will be whether the Lakers are for real or not.
Watch the prophecy unfold.. There's no incentive to beat the Lakers, and Luka even landing on the Lakers in the first place proves that it's rigged.. There's no viable explanation for why Luka is on the Lakers except rigging by the league for ratings and a ridiculous attempt to add to Lebron's fake legacy.
Wtf cares about 2017 ?
KD was on the warriors lol .
You really believe LeBron Kyrie were favourites?
The Cavs were the only team with 3 franchise players and their roster was equal to the Warriors overall - we can go through man for man - it's equal..
Lebron just stinks, so he lost by record amount with 2 "pippens", while Jordan would be 82-0 if he had a 2nd star.
Ps: yes lebron beat the 2018 Celtics so what ?
U claiming the Celtics had a shot vs the warriors with KD in 2018 ?
Lebron lost by record amount to the Warriors, so anyone would do better, including the 18' Celtics... AD won a game off the Warriors in the 2018 Playoffs - everyone does better than Lebron.
You know FG , if you had a position that had any value about LeBron not being top 10, you wouldn’t had to dig so deep in any dark corner you could find to try to find a talking point to hold LeBron accountable for not being top 10 .
Lebron's skillset needed the most help ever, yet he produced the lowest title frequency, so he's out of the top 10.
No one does less with more than Lebron.... 50+ guys would do better than 1 for 6 with AD, and 50+ guys would've won 60+ games with Kyrie/Love.... 50+ guys would've done better with wade/bosh - these are obvious facts, but instead you have your head in the sand because you want to believe what you hear on TV..
and WHY does lebron underachieve rosters so much?... It's because he's a dumb ball-dominator and all the stuff posted itt about how high volumes of unassisted scoring kills chemistry.
You know Montreal, it's going to be pretty sweet when Lebron/Luka lose catastrophically in the playoffs - it will be another black mark on his career - you can't lose when you team-up with the best player in the league.
Even if they win, the anti-Lebron media will have a field day showing how carried he was and how his ring count is a complete joke given how much he stacked the deck - KD had 3 years of deck-stacking, but Lebron had 15 years and played with the best player in the league (aside from himself) on three different occasions (Luka, AD, Wade), while also having franchise guys at 3rd option too - it's the most help ever, yet his ring frequency is the worst.
You know Montreal, it's going to be pretty sweet when Lebron/Luka lose catastrophically in the playoffs - it will be another black mark on his career - you can't lose when you team-up with the best player in the league.
Even if they win, the anti-Lebron media will have a field day showing how carried he was and how his ring count is a complete joke given how much he stacked the deck - KD had 3 years of deck-stacking, but Lebron had 15 years and played with the best player in the league (aside fro
LeBron is 40. There's literally nothing he can do that will put a black mark on his career. And the fact you don't acknowledge that makes you look worse.
