I believe men to be the oppressed in American society.

I believe men to be the oppressed in American society.

I am wondering if violence against women in the western world is a result of opression and frustration from men who are not treated with respect but are made to work much harder and more difficult jobs than anyone else.

I have been considering the number of men incarcerated(and for how long), I think of the number of men killed in wars and I think about the number of men who are homeless(compared to women) and lastly I think about male suicide rates (due to lack of perceived value by society)

I am not saying the violence against women is acceptable or should be tolerated.

I am saying let’s look at how society treats men and women and let’s see if it’s fair.

Feminism is equality for the sexes. Let’s talk about the inequalities men face

Not sure how to quantify the abuses women face from men and vice versa

11 November 2023 at 02:23 PM
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by PointlessWords k

Sure. Let’s set that aside and look at everything else. What other terrible jobs do women have?

Is birthing children harder than fighting wars?

I mean, I’d say our other top terrible job is constantly having to listen to men’s bullshit



Hey guys. What is going on here? Looks like fun.


by PointlessWords k

Sure. Let’s set that aside and look at everything else. What other terrible jobs do women have?

Is birthing children harder than fighting wars?

I think men and women act the way they do because they are a bunch of entitled spoiled bitches. Fighting wars, hard jobs, disease, hookers and blow, porn, are all things that have improved dramatically.

Folks from shithole countries aren't going visit here and conclude with you that the govt needs to start funding dudes a universal basic vagina to fix a man's problem. They're going to think that you're just fine.

The instant reward we get from our smartphones now versus putting in a little elbow grease for **** makes us act the way we are.


The folks from one shithole country are already resident there.


A debate between PW and Crossnerd might damage reality itself.

Mere human eyes can't even see the specific shade of purple hair she's rocking over there. This poor bastard has no idea what he's about to get himself into.


by Inso0 k

A debate between PW and Crossnerd might damage reality itself.

Mere human eyes can't even see the specific shade of purple hair she's rocking over there. This poor bastard has no idea what he's about to get himself into.

I mean I paint my nails and dye my hair.


by Crossnerd k

I mean, I’d say our other top terrible job is constantly having to listen to men’s bullshit

I’d say that’s something besides a job.


by PointlessWords k

I’d say that’s something besides a job.

Well it’s unpaid if that’s what you mean!


by PointlessWords k

I mean I paint my nails and dye my hair.

You probably get your mail at night and pump gas after dark too.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym k

Cliffnotes: Men suffer more. They always have and always will. There is probably nothing we can really do about this. This does not contradict the idea of women being oppressed.

Cry more about how the systems men created are now strangling yourselves. There’s no such thing as an “incel”. It’s always voluntary. Best of luck with your mommy wound but I’m glad your mother had the freedom to divorce. Women usually divorce men because the man sucks.


by Crossnerd k

Cry more about how the systems men created are now strangling yourselves. There’s no such thing as an “incel”. It’s always voluntary. Best of luck with your mommy wound but I’m glad your mother had the freedom to divorce.

Why don’t you believe in incels? Is it a “they did it to themselves?” Which is true? Kinda


by Crossnerd k

A woman did a more difficult job bringing you into this world than anything you’ll ever do in your life. That goes for all of you, btw. 👍

Getting ****ed is not difficult for a woman to do. Giving birth can be painful and stressful, but also not difficult. It just happens, whether you put any effort into it or not.


by Crossnerd k

Cry more about how the systems men created are now strangling yourselves. There’s no such thing as an “incel”. It’s always voluntary. Best of luck with your mommy wound but I’m glad your mother had the freedom to divorce. Women usually divorce men because the man sucks.

This is true, but they didn't need to choose the man who sucked to raw bang. They probably even did it because he was a 'bad boy'.

Btw, no men alive today created any systems, so they are no more to blame for it than are women alive today.


Men make wars, then whine about having to fight them. More news at 11


by Crossnerd k

Men make wars, then whine about having to fight them. More news at 11

The men who make them aren’t the ones who fight them tho


by PointlessWords k

The men who make them aren’t the ones who fight them tho

Sounds to me like your male leaders don’t give a **** if you live or die then. Take it up with them. Women didn’t write the draft, babydoll. We just kept things running while you boys were out playing with your big booms and such. We’re not asked for our input on such matters.


by Inso0 k

A debate between PW and Crossnerd might damage reality itself.

Mere human eyes can't even see the specific shade of purple hair she's rocking over there. This poor bastard has no idea what he's about to get himself into.

i thought the trope was blue hair? where'd that start and come from anyway?


by Crossnerd k

Sounds to me like your male leaders don’t give a **** if you live or die then. Take it up with them. Women didn’t write the draft, babydoll. We just kept things running while you boys were out playing with your big booms and such.

So you agree your statement about men creating wars and then whining about them was incorrect.


Not sure now you got that. Bills were introduced to repeal the selective service act and make it gender neutral and the majority male congress rejected them both times. Men want to fight the wars they start. They just also want to whine about it at the same time apparently. Big boys fight the warsssss and women don’t have to because we keep legislating it that wayyyyy, wahhhh


Israeli women are generally required to serve in the military


by metsandfinsfan k

Israeli women are generally required to serve in the military

Same in North Korea 👍


by Crossnerd k

Sounds to me like your male leaders don’t give a **** if you live or die then. Take it up with them. Women didn’t write the draft, babydoll. We just kept things running while you boys were out playing with your big booms and such. We’re not asked for our input on such matters.

Neither the male nor female leaders care much if young men live or die.

Politicians like Hillary Clinton, Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, and Indira Gandhi weren't exactly known for avoiding military conflict.


As Guywhogoestogym alluded, in pretty much every species of mammal female lives are intrinsically valued higher than male lives. This is simple Evolutionary Biology 101. Big non-motile gametes of very limited supply are much more valuable than small, motile gametes of limitless supply. And on top of this the female body is the literal incubator for the first, most fragile, stage of genetic survival to the next generation.

I think it would take a tremendous amount of social conditioning to get to a point where a human society didn't intrinsically value female life over male life, and if we ever did get there the society itself would probably be dysfunctional. It is perfectly fine and natural that male **** sapiens (like pretty much every other species) generally live shorter, more violent, more brutal lives. And I dont think anyone should feel bad about that.

We can of course work to improve the human condition overall for everyone. But like most of the "equity" push, I think it would be a bad idea to overly mess around with something so biologically fundamental.

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