Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Are you arguing that if USA did not veto UN aid to Gaza that Israel would then allow UN aid? Please be precise.


by Bluegrassplayer

Are you arguing that if USA did not veto UN aid to Gaza that Israel would then allow UN aid? Please be precise.

did I say anything like that?


Yes.


surely if that was my argument then you could point to something even resembling such an argument.

you cant do that bc you are trolling the **** out of me and its pathetic. but mods on this forum are allowed such things any response will certainly be a lengthy ban. I can see you guys itching for it right now.


by Victor

no I explained one of the main reasons why the UN cannot distribute aid in Gaza. and that reason is bc the USA would block any such distribution.

try to follow the conversation.

I was following, and you did not say that, you said the US had blocked recommendations for a cease fire.

So the UN isn't distributing aid now, but if they recommended a cease fire (followed by Israel ignoring it), you think they would then move in to distribute aid? Seems very unlikely, but if you want to make that argument, go ahead and make it explicitly.


by Bluegrassplayer

Yes.

liars lie. trolls troll. go cry to your mod friend now.


by chillrob

I was following, and you did not say that, you said the US had blocked recommendations for a cease fire.

So the UN isn't distributing aid now, but if they recommended a cease fire (followed by Israel ignoring it), you think they would then move in to distribute aid? Seems very unlikely, but if you want to make that argument, go ahead and make it explicitly.

I didnt make that argument but you and your troll friends can keep on firing up that strawman.


by Victor

one of the main reasons why the UN cannot distribute aid in Gaza. and that reason is bc the USA would block any such distribution.

How would USA block this distribution? It seemed like you were suggesting via veto, but apparently that was unrelated to this or something.

PLEASE BE PRECISE.


by Victor

I didnt make that argument but you and your troll friends can keep on firing up that strawman.

Then tell us what your argument is, because no one seems to understand it. Exactly how would things be better if the UN security council recommended a cease fire?


by Bluegrassplayer

How would USA block this distribution? It seemed like you were suggesting via veto, but apparently that was unrelated to this or something.

PLEASE BE PRECISE.

you realize the USA has veto power over anything the UN does?

if it were put to a vote in the UN to go in and distribute aid, do you think the USA would vote yes or abstain?

well given they have voted no to a ceasefire on 3 occasions, I dont think they would vote that way.

you are being deliberately obtuse and trolling. you are trying to get me to say something to get banned.

"PLEASE BE PRECISE"

no bro. stop being disingenuous pedantic and trolling.


Hypothetical: USA sleeps in for the UN resolution which gets passed, UN is determined to send aid.

Does Israel now allow UN to administer aid?


by chillrob

Then tell us what your argument is, because no one seems to understand it. Exactly how would things be better if the UN security council recommended a cease fire?

I dont think you are capable of understanding but that is a you problem and I cannot help you with that.


Sure, the US just started their own aid drops, so of course they would veto UN aid drops, makes total sense.
I guess they wouldn't want the competition.


by Bluegrassplayer

Hypothetical: USA sleeps in for the UN resolution which gets passed, UN is determined to send aid.

Does Israel now allow UN to administer aid?

thats not the discussion. if you want to go back and admit you were trolling or at the very least not following the conversation (lol we both know thats bs bc its a pretty simple convo but whatever) then maybe we can move on to hypotheticals that I didnt mention or allude to.


by Victor

I dont think you are capable of understanding but that is a you problem and I cannot help you with that.

I don't think you are capable of answering any questions honestly.
You just like to use this forum as a soapbox for your repetitive monologs.

And guess what. In a "discussion", you don't get to decide alone what is being discussed. Not everyone may want to just talk about how correct all your posts are.


by chillrob

Sure, the US just started their own aid drops, so of course they would veto UN aid drops, makes total sense.
I guess they wouldn't want the competition.

nobody is talking about UN aid drops.

Why can’t the UN go deliver the food by hand and then just start protecting people

this is the post. what is so hard about reading?


by Victor

thats not the discussion. if you want to go back and admit you were trolling or at the very least not following the conversation (lol we both know thats bs bc its a pretty simple convo but whatever) then maybe we can move on to hypotheticals that I didnt mention or allude to.

If the answer is "no", (your reluctance to answer implies that you know it is, not to mention your constant genocide rhetoric) then whether or not USA vetoes the hypothetical resolution has 0 impact on whether or not Gaza gets aid via the UN. How you are capable of thinking that is irrelevant to this conversation is almost as dumbfounding as the narcissism required to then blame the two people who understand the situation enough to point out the relevance of this.


by Victor

nobody is talking about UN aid drops.

this is the post. what is so hard about reading?

I didn't make that post so I don't need to defend it. All I did is suggest that nothing you have recommended would help in any way. If you think it would, you are still free to explain.


by chillrob

I don't think you are capable of answering any questions honestly.
You just like to use this forum as a soapbox for your repetitive monologs.

And guess what. In a "discussion", you don't get to decide alone what is being discussed. Not everyone may want to just talk about how correct all your posts are.

genocide is quite repetitive. and it repetitively pisses me off. and people like you who justify it and support it piss me off too. so you could elect not to argue in favor of the policies and entities committing mass murder of Gazans. you could do that. you wont bc as your infamous post made clear, you support this stuff too.


by Bluegrassplayer

If the answer is "no", (your reluctance to answer implies that you know it is, not to mention your constant genocide rhetoric) then whether or not USA vetoes the hypothetical resolution has 0 impact on whether or not Gaza gets aid via the UN. How you are capable of thinking that is irrelevant to this conversation is almost as dumbfounding as the narcissism required to then blam

if the USA wanted the UN to go in an distribute food then they damn well would be able to.

my post was evidence of why the USA would not support such a thing. they wont even vote yes on a cease fire.


by chillrob

I didn't make that post so I don't need to defend it. All I did is suggest that nothing you have recommended would help in any way. If you think it would, you are still free to explain.

what did I recommend?

I simply pointed out to PW evidence of why the UN cannot distribute food by hand in Gaza.


still waiting on this one


or are you phoning up your mod friend right now?


1. Resolution passes for UN to administer aid
2. ????
3. Israel steps aside and UN administers aid.

What is 2?


by Bluegrassplayer

1. Resolution passes for UN to administer aid
2. ????
3. Israel steps aside and UN administers aid.

What is 2?

I will gladly answer after



by PointlessWords

Why can’t the UN go deliver the food by hand and then just start protecting people

Because the major reason that aid is not getting delivered is because it is blocked from being delivered. If Israel continues blocking it then it does not delivered.

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