Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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It could also be much better.
All Bibi has to do is escort all the aid convoys with drones and catch Hamas raiding the convoys red-handed.
But Bibi and his cronies aren't doing it because they are beyond caring about optics and have decided to go nearly all in on collective punishment and public/international opinion be damned. In fact, they might want the worst optics possible to shore up their ultra right wing base.
IDK about this strategy, but it could and should be much better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas...
Most of the people in the US didn't vote for the current administration either, but you seem to blame the entire country (and all of western civilization, for that matter).
I don't hate nearly as many people I've never met as you do - people of Gaza, versus people of the west, which is more to be hated?
you didnt even take the time to read your own link.
Ukraine did nothing close to Oct 7...
These are not the same.
We've been over Zelenskyy's decisions before. No, he does not deserve criticism for Putin declaring war on Ukraine.
is this a joke? how many civilians has Ukraine killed since 2014? and since the invasion?
you dont see me advocating for Russia to obliterate the whole country and starve the population like Israel does.
That was a quote from the founding charter of Hamas, as I pointed out. I didn't cherry pick the passage, Hamas did. You don't think that's relevant here? If the Republican party platform contains an bible passage, are we not allowed to mention that either?
Of course you are correct that every religious text has horrible ideas; that's because every religion is horrible.
I saw the first part of your intro saying it was from sacred text and missed the part about its inclusion in the original Hamas Charter. My bad. I have undeleted that post.
is this a joke? how many civilians has Ukraine killed since 2014? and since the invasion?
you dont see me advocating for Russia to obliterate the whole country and starve the population like Israel does.
Do you realize that 2014 is the year that Russia invaded Ukraine? Why would that be your start date for this?
And no, I don't know. What is the stat?
How many do you think support the 10/7 attacks?
No one here played any role in Israel's attack on Palestine either, but you seem to want to blame us for it.
Of course this is a lie, I've said nothing like that.
The equivalent would be something like me saying it's okay to kill someone's child as punishment for the time they voted for W Bush and the Iraq Wars. Of course that's psychopathic but somehow it's okay to treat Palestinians this way. Because they're so bloodhitrsty and tribal, you see.
I deleted a post that was a quote from a religious text. Those can go over into the religion forum if you want to argue about things like that. But every religious text has passages that can be isolated to show horrible, violent ideas. The popular the punishment for homosexuality is death phrase from the bible comes to mind. And while a very high percentage of US christians say they believe the bible to be the word of god, most dont believe or act on that phrase.
So lets keep dueling religious t
Of course the people supporting this campaign also have bigoted, dehumanizing views of Muslims in general. I guess this was all about punishing them for their religion?
Of course this is a lie, I've said nothing like that.
The equivalent would be something like me saying it's okay to kill someone's child as punishment for the time they voted for W Bush and the Iraq Wars. Of course that's psychopathic but somehow it's okay to treat Palestinians this way. Because they're so bloodhitrsty and tribal, you see.
Of course the people supporting this campaign also have bigoted, dehumanizing views of Muslims in general. I guess this was all about punishing them for their
No, just my mistake for missing the reference to the Hamas Charter. The post was undeleted.
Of course this is a lie, I've said nothing like that.
The equivalent would be something like me saying it's okay to kill someone's child as punishment for the time they voted for W Bush and the Iraq Wars. Of course that's psychopathic but somehow it's okay to treat Palestinians this way. Because they're so bloodhitrsty and tribal, you see.
Of course the people supporting this campaign also have bigoted, dehumanizing views of Muslims in general. I guess this was all about punishing them for their
It's not a lie for me to say that you seem to want to blame other members of this forum for things thst israel does. It certainly seems that way to me. If that's not how you actually think, then maybe you should change the way you post.
It's not a lie for me to say that you seem to want to blame other members of this forum for things thst israel does. It certainly seems that way to me. If that's not how you actually think, then maybe you should change the way you post.
why would anyone blame posters on 2p2 for the actions of the genocidal Israeli regime?
do you understand how much of an unhinged criticism this is?
It could also be much better.
All Bibi has to do is escort all the aid convoys with drones and catch Hamas raiding the convoys red-handed.
But Bibi and his cronies aren't doing it because they are beyond caring about optics and have decided to go nearly all in on collective punishment and public/international opinion be damned. In fact, they might want the worst optics possible to shore up their ultra right wing base.
- 1. why did they take 3 weeks to retaliate?(to give civilians time to move)
- 2. why haven't they entered rafah yet?
- 3. why are they setting up safe camps?
You think that Israel has been in a hot war with Palestine since 1948? You really don't think that for example, if one of the Koreas attacked the other it would be a bit different compared to the constant escalations by Russia? Whatever, let's go with it:
Since 1948 how many Israeli civilians have been killed by Gazans?
How many Russian civilians were killed by Ukraine since 2014?
How many of each were terrorist attacks?
Does this mean that both, or either, deserve the full scale invasion? Remember that I'm arguing that neither deserve it.
You think that Israel has been in a hot war with Palestine since 1948? Whatever, let's go with it:
Since 1948 how many Israeli civilians have been killed by Gazans?
How many Russian civilians were killed by Ukraine?
How many of each were terrorist attacks?
Does this mean that both, or either, deserve the full scale invasion? Remember that I'm arguing that neither deserve it.
I agree that neither deserve it as well. when you mentioned Oct 7 then I misunderstood the implication.
Hey Victor, check this out.
This is bullshit. For one simple Le Creuset, I would reign down an era of terror on the politics forum it would only be spoken of in whispers for centuries to come
There is a disussion in ATF about a replacement for browser. IT is a dumb discussion based on a lie.
I dont know if they are joking or not, or if some are just ignorant to the facts, but i suspect they are not (AT least some) and this is very bad. I suspect this will bring problems and would mean your posting ITT has ended. I suspect crossnerd is very biased from her recent posts in this forum.
So if you want your voice to be heard, I suggest you say something in ATF.
ALL OF YOU.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/ab...
Or we get a bad mod instead of browser who cancels everything, and bans every other post, poster and view.
It's not a lie for me to say that you seem to want to blame other members of this forum for things thst israel does.
That is certainly a lie. I've made it clear the blame should fall on Netanyahu and Hamas and not on the people of Israel or Palestine as a whole.
On the other hand, you guys *constantly* try to blur the lines between civilians and combatants. Now you're even smearing all Muslims as whole. The self-defense rationale is wearing thin after 31,000 deaths so we need a new way to demonize the people being wiped out.
Hey Victor, check this out.
There is a disussion in ATF about a replacement for browser. IT is a dumb discussion based on a lie.
I dont know if they are joking or not, or if same are just ignorant to the facts, but i suspect they are not (AT least some) and this is very bad. I suspect this will bring problems and would mean your posting ITT has ended. I suspect crossnerd is very biased from her recent posts in this forum.
So if you want your voice to be heard, I suggest you say something in ATF
That was a sarcastic post by Crossnerd, she is not a mod so is not one of the people being considered to moderate Politics, and this is not the thread for moderation discussion.
