Israel/Palestine thread
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AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to return to the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, with full and equal citizenship and due representation in its bodies and institutions -- provisional or permanent.
We offer peace and unity to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all.
That Trolly, is attempting to have a peac
Rafi, you've gone in to full-on Holocaust denial mode and it's ****ing gross. It's not too late to take a step back, realize you've been letting an understandable sense of fear affect your judgement, and get off this path.
Twitter and tiktok are streams of anecdotes. And it's not a random sampling. It can have news items, but there's no way it's a representative population. And both you and people like mets do this. Someone could very easily post a stream of comments from Palestine activists saying all Jews everywhere should be boiled in oil. Very easily.
The actual polls are bad enough. The anecdotes are ridic. I don't want to have to find tiktoks or whatevers of people calling for peace from both sides an
almost 90% of the Jewish Israeli population either supports the way the war is being waged or think the Army is not killing enough.
we have pages of genocidal statements by leaderssubmitted by SA to the courts.
many Israeli scholars have been predicting an event like this for years given the radicalization and dehumanization in their society.
these soldiers are a reflection of that.
this is going to go down in history as one of the all time greatest crimes. it seems that you think this is some both sides type thing. its not. its a coordinated effort the torture and murder a civilian population.
The irony of people like Bill Haywood and Victor insisting that the Palestinian project is a secular fascist nationalist movement, is that this is actually worse. The fascist nationalist Arab movement is explicitly a Nazi sympathetic movement to create pure Arab Muslim ethnostates.
This is opposed to Islamism, which is fundamentally an Apartheid ideology where it is codified by Islamic law that infidels can coexist as second class citizens. Even Hamas states upon their reconquer of Israel, after they have killed all the fighters and enslaved all the high human capital Jews, the rest can stay as dhimni.
almost 90% of the Jewish Israeli population either supports the way the war is being waged or think the Army is not killing enough.
we have pages of genocidal statements by leaderssubmitted by SA to the courts.
many Israeli scholars have been predicting an event like this for years given the radicalization and dehumanization in their society.
these soldiers are a reflection of that.
this is going to go down in history as one of the all time greatest crimes. it seems that you think this is some bo
Vic, fully everyone is tired of you spamming random unverifiable tweets.
the tweets make you uncomfortable. they should make you uncomfortable.
Are you serious? 750,000 were expelled. Plan Dalet, adopted March 1948, set the priorities to seize as much land with as few Palestinians as possible.
Benny "Finish the Job" Morris accepts there was a Nakba, why can't you?
micro, this guy doesnt think its just anecdotes. he wrote like 100 pages on what he has seen.
hes a Jewish Israeli professor and not one of those dirty Arabs that Trolly likes to dismiss
that guys is looking at the same stuff I am. he is drawing the same conclusions. I dont have the ability to write long articles. but I know what I see.
I feel like almost all tweets are unverified and should be treated as pointless words
Vic has a large bias but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong
The rape denier says that Israel murdered its own people on oct 7
Adds up too
Palestinians didn’t cleanse the Jews from 40 countries man.
and the nakba, just like the trail of tears, happened
The fastest way to peace is reconciliation. Terrorists grow exponentially due to the compound growth of one dead terrorist person growing 3 more terrorist people.
So it’s an extremely ineffective way to end a conflict although it will help the people in charge spend tax payer money on weapons while staying in charge. In the end the common person suffers(on both sides) and the rich get richer while keeping their hands “clean”
Vic there was clearly rape on Oct 7 just like there is rape in IDF jails where the Palestinians are being held
