Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by metsandfinsfan

Nobody besides you in this thread supports genocide

In his defense, he only supports genocide against Jews.


by Victor

it doesnt work this way. supporting Palestinians to not be murdered, despite how much their presence makes you angry, does not support genocide. you could just stop being such a baby about these people existing.

Accepting civilian casualties made necessary *by hamas* in order to defeat hamas, isn't "supporting genocide".

We went through this, you can keep inventing pallywood narratives, we don't care.

Every single palestinian civilian, not affiliated with hamas, who dies, only dies because there are no other ways to try to eradicate hamas, because of hamas choices. Accepting that has to happen isn't "supporting genocide". There is no genocide going on because there is no systematic killing of innocents for the sole purpose of killing them.

They die because hamas puts them in peril and eradicating hamas is more important than preserving their lives.

All the blood is on hamas hands. Hamas could surrender, or flee the strip, or just completly stop all operations and go in hiding, and civilians wouldn't die anymore. It's hamas killing each and every one of them.

And you, as a supporter of hamas efforts, are the genocide supporter IF a palestinian genocide is happening (which it isn't), it's by Hamas.


by gs3737

So is US the standard??

I don’t think classifying terrorism as a capital offense is a radical idea. Or even wrong.

Is killing people wrong?

You also don’t think killing terrorists is wrong because you don’t understand blowback and how it works, or martyrdom.

The US is the leader of the free world and we keep lots of “terrorists” in our prisons. Seems like a good example.

by gs3737

In his defense, he only supports genocide against Jews.

You should show him the light and change his mind


by gs3737

In his defense, he only supports genocide against Jews.

No he supports Putin ukrainian genocide as well


is pretty pathetic that they are reduced to just saying "no, u" over and over again


by Luciom

Accepting civilian casualties made necessary *by hamas* in order to defeat hamas, isn't "supporting genocide".We went through this, you can keep inventing pallywood narratives, we don't care.Every single palestinian civilian, not affiliated with hamas, who dies, only dies because there are no other ways to try to eradicate hamas, because of hamas choices. Accepting that has to

no, its a direct attack on civilians. its not accepting civilian casualties. as the Israeli's and the Zionists have told us, there are no civilians.

the rest of your post is the typical incoherent hypocrisy that we hear from fascists.


by Luciom

No he supports Putin ukrainian genocide as well

I support a ceasefire and negotiated settlement.

however, I am not so depraved to accuse Zelensky and the West of being at fault for all of the Ukrainian deaths. and I dont support Putin or Ukraine simply murdering civilians to get the results they want.

for one, killing civilians to force a surrender almost never works.


by PointlessWords

Is killing people wrong?

You also don’t think killing terrorists is wrong because you don’t understand blowback and how it works, or martyrdom.

The US is the leader of the free world and we keep lots of “terrorists” in our prisons. Seems like a good example.

You should show him the light and change his mind

No, I am fully in support of the death penalty.

Mega lol @ showing genocide vic the light.

I’m Jewish, so he wants me dead.


by Luciom

No he supports Putin ukrainian genocide as well

My bad, I was mistaken.


by Trolly McTrollson

So the US lets Israel massacre a few thousand more Palestinians in exchange for them pinky-swearing not to start WWIII?

What are the teams in WW3? The US helping Israel clean out Lebanon and Iran is just more ME shenanigans.


by Victor

is pretty pathetic that they are reduced to just saying "no, u" over and over again

Say the guy who responds with “lol” every time he’s made to look like an idiot.


anyway, in today's Mccarthyism news,

Columbia suspended her daughter after she asked the president about the chemical weapons attack against pro-Palestinian and anti-genocide students that hospitalized Jews.


by Luciom

Every single palestinian civilian, not affiliated with hamas, who dies, only dies because there are no other ways to try to eradicate hamas, because of hamas choices. Accepting that has to happen isn't "supporting genocide". There is no genocide going on because there is no systematic killing of innocents for the sole purpose of killing them.

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This came out yesterday, it's quite good:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ho...

And in it, Scott mentions that actually there's a case for Hamas being more atrocious than the Nazis, because even the Nazis evacuated their own women and children out of harm's way any time they could.


by formula72

What are the teams in WW3? The US helping Israel clean out Lebanon and Iran is just more ME shenanigans.

Iran has a bit more pull than Iraq did, but perhaps you're right and it would just be another 20-year military adventure that butchers a bunch of kids instead of a global conflict.


by metsandfinsfan

Invading? Hezbollah has been sttacking Israel for months

Call it an excursion, then. A little hike to Damascus, sort of a work-study program for the IDF.


I need a new phone


by Trolly McTrollson

Iran has a bit more pull than Iraq did, but perhaps you're right and it would just be another 20-year military adventure that butchers a bunch of kids instead of a global conflict.

I mean, if you look at the armed forces comparisions of military equipment and take that at face value. The US breaks even against about 30-40 Irans. In that ignores all its edges in tech and of course needing a backup country lol.


by formula72

What are the teams in WW3? The US helping Israel clean out Lebanon and Iran is just more ME shenanigans.

It's not WW3 if it's not USA vs Russia. Simple as that.

USA would destroy the Iranian military in a month or two. But, like Iraq (military defeated in weeks) or Afghanistan (military defeated in hours), it would be the beginning of a decade or two of civil war and IEDs and such.


by rafiki

This came out yesterday, it's quite good:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ho...

And in it, Scott mentions that actually there's a case for Hamas being more atrocious than the Nazis, because even the Nazis evacuated their own women and children out of harm's way any time they could.

let me guess, that gives you justification to order all Palestinians killed


by Trolly McTrollson

Call it an excursion, then. A little hike to Damascus, sort of a work-study program for the IDF.

its Beirut. and things wont go well for Israel if they try that.

but they hypocrisy from the Zionists never ends. they act like Hezbollah just woke up one day and started firing missiles at them. as if doing a genocide in Gaza had nothing to do with it.

did Hezbollah help out with Oct 7? I wonder how many of them can correctly answer that.


by microbet

USA would destroy the Iranian military in a month or two. But, like Iraq (military defeated in weeks) or Afghanistan (military defeated in hours), it would be the beginning of a decade or two of civil war and IEDs and such.

Might take us a few weeks, I doubt a few months...


by Trolly McTrollson

Might take us a few weeks, I doubt a few months...

Could be, but Iran is a large country with lots of mountains. It would certainly take a while to get ready and USA would be sending at least half a million people there, maybe a million.


by rafiki

Yeah she effectively just posted more or less the Vic playbook I guess. I can see why a school might find that spicy. Can't say I have a take on the choice without all the info. In Canada right now we have our own version on the reverse side. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/york-un...

How is unconditional support of Israel not anti-Palestinan?


by microbet

It's not WW3 if it's not USA vs Russia. Simple as that.

USA would destroy the Iranian military in a month or two. But, like Iraq (military defeated in weeks) or Afghanistan (military defeated in hours), it would be the beginning of a decade or two of civil war and IEDs and such.

Basically....


Who really knows but im not confident that Iran would defeat SA alone in a conventional war. Iran edges in man power and terrain but SA is militarily modernized and I think that matters a lot.

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