"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread
It's been about 9.5 years and 350K posts of epicness, but "It Lives, It Lives" can live no more. The OG LLSNL Chat Thre
Oddly/not oddly enough this is the same pose feely went with on his night on the town in Sydney.
I got in a coupla runs with APD and APD Jr at Breck this morning. Snoe was mildly irritating with mostly sluggish interspersed with quick bursts of (hidden) speed.... just enough to keep it a bit unnerving. Jr. has improved so much this season
Spoiler
...for a boarder
I ate it hard today. Was trying to ride switch way too fast and the murshed potaters took me for a ride. Jr told me I spun in the air before landing on my back and hip. Felt like I got bucked off a horse.
Weird day today up here. Hot, cold, sleet, snow. Had it all. Last run was a s*** show. Tried to take 4’o clock back to town and it was dirty soup. The 9/8 connect was running, I saw people on it, and I noticed a rope was dropped heading that way. So we turned into it, got to the bottom of the hill and I soon realized the dropped rope was a mistake. Hiked back up and rode the soup.
That was our last day. I will come back if squid comes through, but I’m guessing at this point we are pretty all shut down for the year.
That was our last day. I will come back if squid comes through, but I’m guessing at this point we are pretty all shut down for the year.
Will have solid info 4 u guys by tuesday. SPC just left on a 3 day/2 night ride. One of the passes she wants to use is still snow covered and closed. Hopefully they get that stuff plowed and opened. She called Utah dept of transprotation to find out what the deal is and - Surprise! they had no info
The cold calling of 3bets with these ranges has me all twisted up. Also nobody 4bets at 1/3 so if anybody has posts about genpop 4bet ranges its KK+/AK I have to assume.
I was 4bet twice while in Vegas a couple weeks ago. One, I jammed with QQ, and he called with QQ. The other had AA, but it was a cold-4 bet.
It was only 40 ish hours but I found both 3bets and 4bets to be extremely value-y in Vegas last year at 2-5.
That was also my experience. My jam with QQ was marginal at best, but it was against a dealer-reg who had been running over the table. I was surprised he called, but I don't think he knew how nitty I am.
ahhh its too late for me to edit my HH to add more comedy but if you play that theme song from that brittish comedy show uhhh... benny hill, it lines up perfectly with the average readers pace and the rhtyhmic structure i write in. its hillarious
Yakkity Sax, for the record (or is it an album?)
I was 4bet twice while in Vegas a couple weeks ago. One, I jammed with QQ, and he called with QQ. The other had AA, but it was a cold-4 bet.
I'd expect the "unknown villain" at a vegas 1/3 to have a bit more of a 4bet range than the "unknown villain" at a casino on the east coast say. Not sure about midwest games at all. Texas from what i've heard about the games there is an animal entirely of its own and exists outside any general assessment and must be treated as its own unique species.
Years ago (15 or so) folks seemed to always suggest most of the vegas games were much tighter than other places - across both the low stakes regs and recreational players. the last time i played in vegas (about 13 years ago?) it seemed to play as close to what i'd expect - not overly wild liek a home game, occasional blaster/maniac, a few weird regs with strange quirks, and some out of towners like myself. I played mostly 2/5 and an occasional 1/2 when i was there. Didnt feel all too different from casino's on the east coast that attracted more regular recreational players and an occasional full time player say.
I didnt start seeing 4bet ranges that werent just QQ+ til i started regging 2/5 and higher (tho saying I regularly sat 5/10 would be inappropriate, i took stabs and as I am living out a life of penance for actions i committed in a previous one, i got stomped most of the time. even the whales were making moves on me).
Currently, I am starting to play semi regularly again hence me siging back up on here (first person to guess my old screen name gets all the glory and pride i can offer, id say the only folks i recognize are APD, Garrick, Venice and some others).
I had taken quite a bit of time off as I went on a pretty severe downswing about a year before COVID that really had me mentally ****ed up (along with other events/life stresses/other endeavors i was pursuing) but I felt it was a good time to simply take a break from 35+ hours a week at card tables. And it was. Sunk a large chunk of the roll into renovating my house (wasnt nearly enough to do what needed to be done unfortunately).
I've only come back to playing semi-regularly in the past few months or so. maybe twice a week or so, sometimes 3 if im lucky. In this short (small sample size bro) time I've noticed some peculiarities and differences in the games since pre covid and maybe a few things i thought were novel observations were just the same as before and I simply cant remember (shrug emoji) BUT I have yet to see a 4bet that went to showdown that wasnt KK+ in about... 16 3-5hr session so avg 16*4=64 hrs give or take.
Other fun stats I was keeping track of that i may or may not continue to do:
I've been set over set 4 times though in that period of time, and Ive also lost 1/2 of my 80%/20& all-in's (as the favorite) *sad trombone*
However! I've binked a 4 outer about 3 times which always makes me feel warm and fuzzy (two of em were flush vs 2pair - however the range I'd happily GII vs the opponent in 2 of the 3 times starts below 2 pair so I just happened to run into the upper end of their insanely wide maniac ranges). 1 of them was against a <100BB stack and not an all-in situation but just them letting me get there *shrug emoji*
I'd expect the "unknown villain" at a vegas 1/3 to have a bit more of a 4bet range than the "unknown villain" at a casino on the east coast say. Not sure about midwest games at all. Texas from what i've heard about the games there is an animal entirely of its own and exists outside any general assessment and must be treated as its own unique species.
Years ago (15 or so) folks seemed to always suggest most of the vegas games were much tighter than other places - across both the low stakes regs a
Please stop
i am negative 150 BBs per session for the last sessions :/
highlights: straddle UTG, i got KK, some calls of the straddle I raise big, straddle calls. Of note: Straddle was wearing sunglasses at a low stakes game so you know they're bad, passive, etc etc. I forget but I had just under 300 BBs roughly, straddle had me covered. Board: K KdJc8c - i lead 75% pot cuz its 3 way and this board sucks and i'll get called by a buncha crap. Straddle calls, turn 5 spade, I pot turn. We were deep I forget e
3 BAHHs is a bit much for the no content asylum.
That town has always been a group of rocks waiting on the tourists.
My bad yall I thought I was posting in the bb_love livejournal thread - accidentally mis posted up there - mods can you move my rambling bullshit to the dust bin thread?
It will remain here for posterity.
sabr post more 5/5 hand histories
sabr plz post more 5/10 or 5/5/10 HHs
I'm up $17K at $5/5 this month and there's 10 more days to go.
I see no reason to mess with what's working.
rungood must have started because you posted hh itt
gg, pl post more 1/3 hand histories of you folding overpairs and sets
I folded AA OTF on Friday night after making a terrible raise 200+ bb deep.
Hero raises red AA from utg to 3bb, BB calls.
Flop(7bb): 8h6c4h
BB checks, H bets 6bb, BB raises to 12bb, H raises to 50bb, BB jams 150bb more, H mucks. BB shows 86
Pretty sure that's a call against the click-back at 200bb deep, and the raise is bad. I was just thinking of building a pot, and "if I don't get stacked running big pairs into sets some of the time, I'm doing it wrong." But I still folded when I got what I wanted.
Excuse me sir but what the hell are you doing on the flop?
I folded AA OTF on Friday night after making a terrible raise 200+ bb deep.
Hero raises red AA from utg to 3bb, BB calls.
Flop(7bb): 8h6c4h
BB checks, H bets 6bb, BB raises to 12bb, H raises to 50bb, BB jams 150bb more, H mucks. BB shows 86
Pretty sure that's a call against the click-back at 200bb deep, and the raise is bad. I was just thinking of building a pot, and "if I don't get stacked running big pairs into sets some of the time, I'm doing it wrong." But I still folded when I got what I wanted
Check flop and as played just call the raise. 3 betting is quite dicey especially at 200bb.
Here's a super boring standard hand at hamburger steaks.
Yatahay Network - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
BB: 110.23 BB
UTG: 136.78 BB
MP: 101.4 BB
Hero (CO): 104.42 BB
BTN: 90.68 BB
SB: 102.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ Q♦
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.25 BB
Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) 4♣ J♣ T♦
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
BB bets 5.93 BB, Hero calls 5.93 BB
River: (16.86 BB, 2 players) 6♠
BB bets 32.04 BB, Hero calls 32.04 BB
BB shows 9♦ Q♠ (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 25%, Flop 25%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows A♦ Q♦ (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 75%, Flop 75%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins 77.94 BB
Flop is a decent check back also.
Damn I jinxed myself. Had my 1st loss of the month.
