"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

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29 November 2019 at 06:28 PM
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by squid face k

KS, Don, and Ace:

The main reason why spc is doing the wheel race and not the RAM is the number of bikers getting nailed by autos during those events just isnt cool. She has been unable to find an acceptable "safe" route to get to yer neck of the woods that doesnt have snow issues at the moment. Sadly its looking like we will not be heading to colorado prior to the wheel race

Sorry to hear that, skwidz and SPC. Glglgl in the race and finding a route. I'm not surprised with the trouble finding an open pass. They close early and open late, often only getting plowed once or twice a year.


Come over for the pow that is hitting this weekend


by SABR42 k

1) play against lots of idiots
2) be the best player in the player pool
3) don't get too many bad beats or bad runouts in big pots

In the short term number 3 matters most, but in the long run 1 and 2 will carry you.

Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.

Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 121.26 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 122.98 BB
SB: 52.02 BB
BB: 176.46 BB
UTG: 50.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, SB calls 1.75 BB, BB calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (6.75 BB, 3 players) 3 3 J
SB bets 49.77 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 49.77 BB

Turn: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows 9 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Threes)
(Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 91%)
SB shows 2 5 (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 9%)
SB wins 104.79 BB


fold river


by Mr Spyutastic k

Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.

Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 121.26 BB

Hero (CO): 100 BB

BTN: 122.98 BB

SB: 52.02 BB

BB: 176.46 BB

UTG: 50.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, SB calls 1.75 BB, BB calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (6.75 BB, 3 players) 3: 3 J

SB bets 49.77 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 49.77 BB

Turn: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 6:

River: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 4:

Hero shows 9 9: (

He put himself on 53.

Well played IMO.


by Mr Spyutastic k

Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.

Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 121.26 BB

Hero (CO): 100 BB

BTN: 122.98 BB

SB: 52.02 BB

BB: 176.46 BB

UTG: 50.26 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.25 BB, fold, SB calls 1.75 BB, BB calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (6.75 BB, 3 players) 3: 3 J

SB bets 49.77 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 49.77 BB

Turn: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 6:

River: (106.29 BB, 2 players) 4:

Hero shows 9 9: (

Yeesh, gross. Definitely have 1 covered as per this example.


by Mr Spyutastic k

Got 1 and 2 covered. 3 is difficult.

Yatahay Network - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players[/b]
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Please tell me that $2 refers to the big blind here


by JackInDaCrak k

Please tell me that $2 refers to the big blind here

That is correct.


tough beat, if it was for 200 pennies I was going to be meaner


by JackInDaCrak k

tough beat, if it was for 200 pennies I was going to be meaner

Nah at the pennies I run like god

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 30 BB
CO: 102.5 BB
BTN: 38.5 BB
Hero (SB): 103.5 BB
BB: 220.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, UTG raises to 30 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (63.5 BB, 2 players) J J 7

Turn: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (63.5 BB, 2 players) 6

UTG shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 87%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows A J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 13%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins 60.5 BB


Is yatahay ACR, and how does that work in CA?


by Donat3llo k

Is yatahay ACR, and how does that work in CA?

Yeah it's ACR. I just signed up like normal. No special process or anything. I had to send them a picture of my id though.


by Mr Spyutastic k

Yeah it's ACR. I just signed up like normal. No special process or anything. I had to send them a picture of my id though.

Interesting, I didn't know CA was friendly towards online poker. I guess no regulation != illegal. Pretty sure I'd be flagged in CO, but maybe if I used crypto, it's fine. Not that I'd really be expecting to cash out much, but it'd be nice to be able to practice with less at risk.


by Donat3llo k

Interesting, I didn't know CA was friendly towards online poker. I guess no regulation != illegal. Pretty sure I'd be flagged in CO, but maybe if I used crypto, it's fine. Not that I'd really be expecting to cash out much, but it'd be nice to be able to practice with less at risk.

Yeah I never had any issues.

A few years back I cashed out like 15 or 20k I don't remember the exact amount from Ignition. No problem at all.


by Mr Spyutastic k

Yeah I never had any issues.

A few years back I cashed out like 15 or 20k I don't remember the exact amount from Ignition. No problem at all.

Do you prefer ignition vs acr? Appreciate your patience with all the Qs. I would rather figure online out instead of going to the poker room.


by Donat3llo k

Do you prefer ignition vs acr? Appreciate your patience with all the Qs. I would rather figure online out instead of going to the poker room.

Sent you a PM in case you want a deeper dive.

Depends who you talk to and what stakes you plan to play.

But if you ask me the short of it in the current state I prefer ACR.

Both sites have bots, but Ignition I would say has more (at least in cash)
and collusion is easier and much more prevalent there. Which for obvious reasons I have a bigger problem w/ than playing w/ bots.

ACR is not anonymous so if there's a bot at the table I know right away without having to play guessing games. And I've seen virtually 0 collusion type plays.

The other things I don't like is their rewards are crap/non existent, their support is also quite bad. Not saying that ACR is world class, but I actually get reasonable responses within a day if I reach out to them.

And there's no 4 table cap like there is on Ignition. So for me all things equal I'd rather get better rewards and more volume.
The software is just way better and that's not an opinion.


by Donat3llo k

I folded AA OTF on Friday night after maraking a terrible raise 200+ bb deep.

Hero raises red AA from utg to 3bb, BB calls.

Flop(7bb): 8h6c4h
BB checks, H bets 6bb, BB raises to 12bb, H raises to 50bb, BB jams 150bb more, H mucks. BB shows 86

Pretty sure that's a call against the click-back at 200bb deep, and the raise is bad. I was just thinking of building a pot, and "if I don't get stacked running big pairs into sets some of the time, I'm doing it wrong." But I still folded when I got what I want

by gobbledygeek k

I'd legit *consider* folding to the original flop check/raise against most (for realz, we block Axhh semibluffs and in general most people ain't min check/raising much we're doing all that great against except for perhaps the hand we ran into). If calling, it is often to fold to a non-helping turn. I would never consider reraising this deep.

Gfoldingmywaytovictoryatthesesstakes/opponentsG

If that is the case then the flop reraise is better than a call. The turn is not going to help and he is betting 100% of them.


by DeadMoneyWalking k

If that is the case then the flop reraise is better than a call. The turn is not going to help and he is betting 100% of them.

Any 4, A, or heart(except 6h) is good for us. We have ~31% against the hand we ran into. Technically, we have the odds to call if we know he only ever has 2pr. But he also has 9 combos of sets and probably 16 combos of straights bc they're probably playing all 7-5 from the BB.


question for gman

an article written by this guy was shared in the china thread so i looked him up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_St...

retired rear admiral who's father was an admiral himself

is that kind of thing common a la nepotism helped give him a leg up in promotions or could have happened purely from just being the best candidate on a meritocratic system much like how so many professional athletes today have parents who were also professional athletes and they made it to the top via having a lot of the same qualities their parents had which led to success?


by Donat3llo k

Any 4, A, or heart(except 6h) is good for us. We have ~31% against the hand we ran into. Technically, we have the odds to call if we know he only ever has 2pr. But he also has 9 combos of sets and probably 16 combos of straights bc they're probably playing all 7-5 from the BB.

V is always betting the turn and often betting the river. Those helpful cards might cost us. It would be an interesting model to investigate a flop reraise to see if we should fold.

It does seem to hard to balance though. You are likely never taking that line with AK.


by rickroll k

question for gman

an article written by this guy was shared in the china thread so i looked him up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_St...

retired rear admiral who's father was an admiral himself

is that kind of thing common a la nepotism helped give him a leg up in promotions or could have happened purely from just being the best candidate on a meritocratic system much like how so many professional athletes today have parents who were also professional athletes and they made it to the top vi

It's relatively common, especially in the Navy, and is most likely a combination of those factors. On the one hand, they have an advantage as they are literally raised to prep for service and have access to great mentorship. On the other, they definitely get treated differently at lower ranks and get opportunities other people without their pedigrees would be unlikely to get. They probably get a bit of at least unconscious positive bias from promotion boards as well, and perhaps even conscious fudging.


Brag: Got a new iPhone.

Beat: It's an iPhone 5s (my wife's old one), but still newer than my iPhone 4 that I had been rocking.

Variance: Will hopefully be able to figure out how to transfer over my poker results to a supported app. Otherwise just left with my not-quite-as-user-friendly Excel spreadsheet.

GcluelessdarkagesnoobG


jfc, how long does the battery last, 5 minutes?


You guys don't keep your phone plugged in 24/7?

G1-3days,butIhaveverylowusageG


edit: rade the gtextg

are you ffing serious, 1-3 days? how is that possible, that battery should be kaput by now

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