"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

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29 November 2019 at 06:28 PM
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by feel wrath k

that is a fold pre, sir

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by SABR42 k

Check flop.

by KingSuperNit k

Don't even walk thru the door....


by feel wrath k

that is a fold pre, sir

I have 56s as a raise/fold :shrug:


by Donat3llo k

I have 56s as a raise/fold :shrug:

I am no sabr but I personally would advise screwing down your preflop game while working on your post flop skills which are severely lacking (no offense this is outta love mang). Once you can navigate post flop then you can work on opening up your game. I guarantee you that playing that stuff up front is costing you dearly with your current poker postflop skillset.


I agree with folding pre if you're not sure how to navigate these flops.


by Donat3llo k

I have 56s as a raise/fold :shrug:

by squid face k

I am no sabr but I personally would advise screwing down your preflop game while working on your post flop skills which are severely lacking (no offense this is outta love mang). Once you can navigate post flop then you can work on opening up your game. I guarantee you that playing that stuff up front is costing you dearly with your current poker postflop skillset.

I think he meant it’s either a raise or fold, which is correct, but maybe you are talking bout something else. I don’t know. Like that flop bet… don’t remember, don’t care.


by Donat3llo k

I have 56s as a raise/fold :shrug:

6 high first to act at a table where you have a guy calling 100% is not a recipe for success.

7.5bb raise as well.

IMO if I were you, I'd have a minimum J10ss+ and then Ace wheel suited to open there and even that might be too wide


by squid face k

I am no sabr but I personally would advise screwing down your preflop game while working on your post flop skills which are severely lacking (no offense this is outta love mang). Once you can navigate post flop then you can work on opening up your game. I guarantee you that playing that stuff up front is costing you dearly with your current poker postflop skillset.

Appreciate it, and I agree. I meant the charts I have, not my actual playing range. Most things in the charts that are split with fold, I normally default to the fold option. My UTG is 99+, A10s+, K10s+, J10s+, AQo+

I could probably drop 99 and J10s and be better off as well.


by feel wrath k

6 high first to act at a table where you have a guy calling 100% is not a recipe for success.

7.5bb raise as well.

IMO if I were you, I'd have a minimum J10ss+ and then Ace wheel suited to open there and even that might be too wide

That guy had a 25bb stack (at most at the time), and was only vpip’ing 100% when it was a limp. Least of my worries.

The big thing you missed was this was a mandatory $4 bring in game. It’s almost a 2/4 game, it’s a weird structure. I 3.69 x’d it. Standard.

Lastly in loooooser games I’d fold this more often than not. Table was going HU or 2/3 handed when a raise was introduced. Bunch of limpers wanting to see flops. I’m close to 100% raise 65s UTG at this table, or at minimum look at the second hand of the clock to coin flip it.


by feel wrath k

that is a fold pre, sir

The fantastic four are not a fold pre. Ever.


by AcePlayerDeluxe k

I think he meant it’s either a raise or fold, which is correct, but maybe you are talking bout something else. I don’t know. Like that flop bet… don’t remember, don’t care.

I have been under the impression Donatello is interested in improving his game. He posted a HH that was him mashing buttons (imo). I advised him that although preflop charts may have this as a raise utg sometimes he should fold hands of this nature (screw down his game) until he has learned how to succesfully navigate post flop more better.

I completely understand that you prefer to ball out. Hence the rambo meme of John Rambo blasting away with his oversized gun when you stated "dont remember dont care". I commend you in your efforts - your HHs are some of the few i ackshually enjoy...kudos


by squid face k

I have been under the impression Donatello is interested in improving his game. He posted a HH that was him mashing buttons (imo). I advised him that although preflop charts may have this as a raise utg sometimes he should fold hands of this nature (screw down his game) until he has learned how to succesfully navigate post flop more better.

I completely understand that you prefer to ball out. Hence the rambo meme of John Rambo blasting away with his oversized gun when you stated "dont remember

Ahhhh ok… gotcha. There was moar to the story.

I was just f’n with you on the don’t care stuff. I appreciated the Rambo gif. 😃


Any of you watch this Tom Brady roast? HOLY FOOOOOOK!!! Comedy Gold!


if i never have to hear another word from Tom Brady for the rest of my life it would still be too much


by feel wrath k

if i never have to hear another word from Tom Brady for the rest of my life it would still be too much

This may be the greatest roast ever. Tom Brady told Jeff Ross to lay off Robert Kraft and he looked serious about it. These fools are going all in on him. Aaron Hernandez jokes on tap.


by prairiebreeze k

The fantastic four are not a fold pre. Ever.

I assume you're talking about Die Fantastischen Vier, the all time great German rap band? They are indeed an open from every position

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUosAGDM...


by feel wrath k

that is a fold pre, sir

by Donat3llo k

I have 56s as a raise/fold :shrug:

Limp/RR would put a screwing on that hand.


by feel wrath k

I assume you're talking about Die Fantastischen Vier, the all time great German rap band? They are indeed an open from every position

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUosAGDM...

Why do I imagine you in your 20’s doing all that high knee stepping to this song?

Also, I guarantee this is Garlick’s hype music before he battles in his armor.


by AcePlayerDeluxe k

Let me first pay off this new Tundra I just bought, and then I’ll buy the T…. trans am. .

I'm thinking I'll get a new Tacoma this year, just waiting for the hybrid version to come out.

by AcePlayerDeluxe k

This may be the greatest roast ever. Tom Brady told Jeff Ross to lay off Robert Kraft and he looked serious about it. These fools are going all in on him. Aaron Hernandez jokes on tap.

It was pretty great. Loved Glazer. There were a lot less Kraft jokes than I expected, but Giselle caught a ton of strays.


by squid face k

I advised him that although preflop charts may have this as a raise utg sometimes he should fold hands of this nature (screw down his game) until he has learned how to succesfully navigate post flop more better.

One of the (sad) realizations I had as I moved to my Super Nit method in 2017 is that there simply wasn't as wide a gulf between my skillz and my typical run-of-the-mill opponent's skillz as I woulda like to think there was. Which forced me to win the battle of recipricality by simply playing far fewer hands / from far fewer positions / for far less money than they were. My EP+ range (all of which I limp of course) is a very nitty 77+/ATs+/AQo+/KQs, and my guess is that this is far and away the biggest reason why stoopid me is able to win and my slightly stoopider neighbour isn't.

Ghavingafirmawarenessofhowrelativelystoopidyouareisagamechanger,imoG


by marknfw k

I'm thinking I'll get a new Tacoma this year, just waiting for the hybrid version to come out.

It was pretty great. Loved Glazer. There were a lot less Kraft jokes than I expected, but Giselle caught a ton of strays.

I went hybridless. One less thing to worry about, and the truck already does well. For no extra MPG.. meh.

They all crushed. I was very surprised to hear so many Hernandez jokes. My jaw just about dropped on every one of them.


But have you considered that folding is boring?


Gronk was also getting rocked. Took a few on the chin, but eventually, he did not appear like he signed up for that.


by davomalvolio k

But have you considered that folding is boring?

idk about you but i think poverty is way more boring


Hey Rickroll, have you gotten yer bike situation figgered out?


by squid face k

Hey Rickroll, have you gotten yer bike situation figgered out?

not yet, i was an idiot and didn't consider how busy i'd be with nba/nhl playoffs

been a great month for me financially but have basically been staring at a computer screen 24/7

hope to get it sorted this week and get in some nice training rides and need to get out west soon anyway because my winning superbowl tickets expire after 6 months so even if I'm not able to do the ride proper, i still think I'll head out that way anyway to visit friends and stuff and maybe just do the pacwest portion of the ride idk yet

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