Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k
I start this with some pictures:
nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV
nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81
nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV
Total loss -$15509.91
This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.
My history begins somewhere in same period when they started to show WSOP shows in television. I think I have played 12-13 years nows mainly NL2, some amount of NL5 and little bit of NL10 what is the biggest stake i've ever played.
I've read all Sklansky, all Harrington, all Miller, watched huge amount of videos, bought trackers and calculators.
Still after those years and after that all I've lost huge amount of money on those stakes. I try to play my best but losing to huge suckouts like 95/5 favorite makes me really upset.
I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker. I want to try one last time to win those money back and little bit of extra. That's why $16k. What I need is support and guiding.
I had thread on micro forum but they deleted it just when people start to understand that this is real situation and not fake.
And if you wonder where that biggest loser comes from it was said by guy who has been playing for living many years. He said I'm the biggest loser in history counted as lost buy ins.
Paisting is way beyond being some fish that we want to be nice to and keep because he's good for the game. He's either mentally disturbed or mentally disabled and the only ethical course of action at this point is to either quit engaging with him and hope he quits or encourage him to seek mental health help. This is not a normal whale we are dealing with here imo. This is someone with something going on. I agree we shouldn't belittle him. But when I first read this thread in 2020 I thought it wa
What if this is llinusllove trolling on 2+2 with this account for shiz and giggles. Either way he can't get better if he don't play right everyone? That is only way he can improve is playing. He will figure it out if he continues to play 
I come on here just to read your blog to see if you are still blogging. So what is your estimated total results over last 20 years? What kind of work do you do for a living?
It's impossible to say what are the total results. Lots of hands from Party Poker, Everest and Ongame went with old computer when it crashed. Also there was money on Ongame site called Europoker that they never paid back. I tried really hard to contact that site supervisor with no results. This is what kind of people are in this industry. If you guy from Europoker read this with my money, keep in mind I won't forget it. You are nothing but criminal. Someday you will confront payback in your life.
It's impossible to say what are the total results. Lots of hands from Party Poker, Everest and Ongame went with old computer when it crashed. Also there was money on Ongame site called Europoker that they never paid back. I tried really hard to contact that site supervisor with no results. This is what kind of people are in this industry. If you guy from Europoker read this with my money, keep in mind I won't forget it. You are nothing but criminal. Someday you will confront payback in your life
i am sure you had s lot of money on this site as you crushed the games there…
He's lost about $250k over the last dozen years or so. Mostly at 2NL.
#variance
I believe the correct narrative is that the poker sites' software prevents there from being any winners. It's rigged to collect rake, and Paisting plays everyday as a public service to all of us by proving this. Much like a martyr. It's pretty heroic.
Is that right Paisting? Please correct me otherwise.
I believe the correct narrative is that the poker sites' software prevents there from being any winners. It's rigged to collect rake, and Paisting plays everyday as a public service to all of us by proving this. Much like a martyr. It's pretty heroic.
Is that right Paisting? Please correct me otherwise.
This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve.
I have contacted by software engineer with poker site history who wrote to me really detailed technical info how that is possible. And in fact it’s really easy to do and very hard to show proofs. But when more and more players confront this and understands what is going on we can do something about it.
Thanks man! Topic is 10 years and one of the most views here. I've been playing like 20 years. Many donkeys that have made decent money and even played for living has gone. They said to me no one is playing smallest stakes 20 years and I said to them watch me. No they are gone and I'm here. Who is in the business and who is out? Tell me.
They surely didn't say it was impossible to be broke for 20 years.
i flopped quads a few days ago. OP needed exactly the 4 of hearts on the turn and exactly the 6 of hearts on the river to win. he won (with a straight flush)! i may have awoken my neighbors with my laughter at how absurd it was. the previous day i had lost three 1 outers when AI on the turn in two hours (and a bunch of other ****). PLOL 😃
not once did entertain that the site was rigged... and if i did, i would have immediately stopped playing on the site.
i flopped quads a few days ago. OP needed exactly the 4 of hearts on the turn and exactly the 6 of hearts on the river to win. he won (with a straight flush)! i may have awoken my neighbors with my laughter at how absurd it was. the previous day i had lost three 1 outers when AI on the turn in two hours (and a bunch of other ****). PLOL 😃
not once did entertain that the site was rigged... and if i did, i would have immediately stopped playing on the site.
Sometimes you just have to laugh to stop from crying lol. Hopefully you were on GG and that triggered a bad beat jackpot at least.
I've actually started to just take the cashout option on GG if I'm over 90% favourite. I can't handle the annoyance of seeing a 4 or 5 outer hit again on the river lol.
But anyway, back to the topic of this thread. Paisting, please join the PLO community. Mashing the pot button is a commonly accepted practice, so you'll fit right in.
April is over and monthly graph + suckouts are here. Month started good but then going down like hell and when you once go down on 888 it's total impossible to go up. Over 200 dollars gone to whales when they suckout. I lost 21! times hand with over 70% equity. Hands with range 70-80% equity did lose 16 times, that's new record in that hand range.
This month suckouts:
5x 80% equity losses
16x 70-80% equity losses
7x 65-70% equity losses
So that accounts for around 20 buyins. How did you lose the other 35?
You ran over EV which is fine, but somewhat delusional to assume that was going to stay the case.
This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve.
Poker sites like losing players who deposit more money when they lose, they also don't like winning players who cash out and leave but over and above both of those things they LOVE rake.
Winning and losing players generate rake, so it is in their best interest to have enough shiny, flashy stuff to attract the whales who just love to play and deposit money as well as having enough whales and recs to keep the winning players playing.
Your playing style piles up your losses, not variance. No competent player would lose the number of buyins you have at any limit and simply consider it bad luck, suckouts or the poker sites rigging the game. This has been said a thousand times in this thread. You are the whale the poker sites love.
Go back to the first page of this thread and read some of your comments, like "I wish I could go back 10 years and never start playing this game". Here you are 5 years later, still chasing your loses having learned nothing.
I wish you luck in finally removing yourself from this dreadful pursuit. Unfortunately I feel as though this is another one of the variance situations you so commonly reference. In this case your gambling addiction is sitting on 98% equity and you've got 1 out going to the river to finally get unstuck from this pursuit. That out is asking for help with your gambling addiction. I pray you hit that out and finally turn the tables on your roller coaster of "negative" EV.
This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve.
I have contacted by software engineer with poker site history who wrote to me really detailed technical info how that is possible. And in fact it’s really easy to do and very hard to show proofs. But when more and more players confront this and understands what is going on we can do something about it.
Can you show the proof that it's easy to manipulate the rng? Otherwise, this is simply a lie.
Can you show the proof that it's easy to manipulate the rng? Otherwise, this is simply a lie.
Its all simply coding. Nothing hard about changing the code to influence the results.
The question is how much incentive is there for a site to do so given the most games have a rake cap and you lose all credibility if cheating is leaked. Somehow the truth always seems to come out and there is a long list of sites that are no longer around because of it.
This is why you still try to play on a more reputable site with a history and some sort of integrity validation claim.
The world needs more Paisting's imo.
Long live Paisting!
I hope he wins the 888 XL Main Event!
Why would asking for proof of such a bold claim make you think I work for a site? I've played fulltime for a long time. I've never once thought that the sites were LOL skewed to keep whales going.
Its all simply coding. Nothing hard about changing the code to influence the results.
The question is how much incentive is there for a site to do so given the most games have a rake cap and you lose all credibility if cheating is leaked. Somehow the truth always seems to come out and there is a long list of sites that are no longer around because of it.
This is why you still try to play on a more reputable site with a history and some sort of integrity validation claim.
I agree with your points about the integrity, but disagree about changing the code.
I'm sure the code could be changed, but you'd also have geeks who peruse the code of programs for fun that would eventually notice it. Especially if it was as bad as Paisting likes to dream it is.
I agree with your points about the integrity, but disagree about changing the code.
I'm sure the code could be changed, but you'd also have geeks who peruse the code of programs for fun that would eventually notice it. Especially if it was as bad as Paisting likes to dream it is.
Wasn't making any reference to the fact that things aren't checked and double check by both internal and external sources. Simply stating that it is very possible to modify the RNG to do what you want if you really want too.
Your point about people checking is one of the reasons that it makes little sense for a site to do so.
Venice definitely works on some site. He's sending me private messages and I said him to stop this or he is on forever block list here. He is talking how he has some information from poker sites. Then he's trying to sneak what info I have.
First time someone saying this out here. I'm not revealing any info what I have been told to me about technical side of this at this point. But let's imagine situation when cards are real random and 1 guy has 80% equity and other has 20% equity. What if we can do something that in fact coming cards are favouring guy with 20% equity and in real life he's having 60% equity and other 40% when cards coming to table. Or when gto guys talking about ranges and how different flops favour different ranges. What if we can do something about that flops favour always player with exact 2 cards or favour players range with playing behaviour. Like limp caller gets flops that favour more 2 random cards than 2 strong cards.
Also you need to think about how these site rngs are checked. Have you people ever contacted eCOGRA or trying to contact them? I suggest you to do so because that is very interesting conversation. It's really hard to contact people from there who is even speaking anything and after many weeks investigation found them only they talk about was slot games rng. No single word about poker or testing sites.
Remember I've been playing for years and I can show every month so much suckouts against worts of the worst players than no one else can show. It's really relevant to ask these questions.
Likely not. Anyone who has done coding knows that you can influence a program you wrote.
Remember I've been playing for years and I can show every month so much suckouts against worts of the worst players than no one else can show. It's really relevant to ask these questions.
Your playing style of overbetting pots to avoid being sucked out on leads other players to play a much wider range against you. This leads to situations where you are seeing the river no matter what instead of betting people off hands on the turn when they don't catch, bluffing them on the river, or being able to fold yourself. There is likely no one else out there losing the amount of buyins in a single session day after day after day and not realizing they have a problem.
No one has every said that you aren't getting sucked out on in hands. The problem is you shove everything and hope for the best instead of playing poker. That is just insanity.
The world needs more Paisting's imo.
Long live Paisting!
I hope he wins the 888 XL Main Event!
Maybe on site with not manipulated rng. On this kind of environment totally impossible to get even ticket from satellite.
888Poker, $82 + $8 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (40 ante) - 8 players
FRENTEXXy (UTG): 8,804 (22 bb)
TheDWV (UTG+1): 18,826 (47 bb)
Paisting (MP): 9,961 (25 bb)
erSCky (MP+1): 16,205 (41 bb)
Fishyfish23 (CO): 7,645 (19 bb)
taknyormoney (BU): 1,302 (3 bb)
Pleata76 (SB): 6,703 (17 bb)
CARRAMROD (BB): 9,780 (24 bb)
Pre-Flop: (920) Hero (Paisting) is MP with Q♥ Q♠
2 players fold, Paisting (MP) raises to 1,000, 3 players fold, Pleata76 (SB) 3-bets to 3,000, 1 fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to 9,921 (all-in), Pleata76 (SB) calls 3,663 (all-in)
Flop: (14,046) 3♣ 6♣ 4♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (14,046) T♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (14,046) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: 14,046
Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows Q♥ Q♠ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 85%, River: 0%)
Pleata76 (SB) shows A♥ J♠ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 15%, River: 100%)
Pleata76 (SB) wins 14,046
