Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by BOIDS k

re kids dying, hopefully hamas end their practice of conducting their military operations in and around schools and hospitals

probably not though given that it seems to have been their policy for about the last 20 years

as I scroll IDF tiktok and insta, it seems that damn near half the posts are from inside a school or hospital.

its like, say the line Bart.


by jalfrezi k

No because I don't have high tolerance levels for graphic depictions of that sort of suffering, thanks.

Whatever happened it doesn't justify what is happening in Gaza.

by jalfrezi k

Tweet hidden to protect the feelings of people advocating for mass murder of children as depicted here.

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by Victor k

as I scroll IDF tiktok and insta, it seems that damn near half the posts are from inside a school or hospital.

its like, say the line Bart.

i'm not surprised given that's where the terrorists base themselves. as the five day siege a few months back taught us, if you want to go fight a hamas terrorist then go to your nearest gazan hospital

i bet a high proportion of the other half of the tiktoks are taken at UN facilities


by BOIDS k

story doesn't check out

I didn't watch it, thanks, but you should.


I really think you guys are just out of touch with the average Israeli.


and I cropped what he was referring to, which was the dead children hanging off the upper floor of building.


by jalfrezi k

No because I don't have high tolerance levels for graphic depictions of that sort of suffering, thanks.

Whatever happened it doesn't justify what's happening in Gaza, which is state ordered sickness on an industrial scale.

It does. What happened on 10 7 justifies eradicating Hamas at ANY COST, that's the whole point. ANY. COST. AS the utmost moral imperative Uber alles.

And it should be the main objective of every single individual living in a country allied with Israel.


Well that's just like your opinion man


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by Luciom k

It does. What happened on 10 7 justifies eradicating Hamas at ANY COST, that's the whole point. ANY. COST. AS the utmost moral imperative Uber alles.

And it should be the main objective of every single individual living in a country allied with Israel.

imagine how quick someone would get banned for saying something like this about the Israelis, who are plausibly doing genocide and a war of extermination.

but ofc like, no one says that the IDF should be destroyed at any cost. even the Resistance doesnt say that.


by jalfrezi k

I didn't watch it, thanks, but you should.

i have. its bad

however, one cheery thought is that statistically speaking more than half of the terrorist kidnappers featured in those videos are now dead 👍


Thousands of kids blown to pieces is a good thing according to people in this thread.


by Victor k

I really think you guys are just out of touch with the average Israeli.

and I cropped what he was referring to, which was the dead children hanging off the upper floor of building.

The average Palestinian thinks the same about israelis. The hate is ugly all around.

by Luciom k

It does. What happened on 10 7 justifies eradicating Hamas at ANY COST, that's the whole point. ANY. COST. AS the utmost moral imperative Uber alles.

And it should be the main objective of every single individual living in a country allied with Israel.

Very justifiable based on what happened and on what could happen


by Victor k

imagine how quick someone would get banned for saying something like this about the Israelis, who are plausibly doing genocide and a war of extermination.

but ofc like, no one says that the IDF should be destroyed at any cost. even the Resistance doesnt say that.

There is no genocide being done
There is no war of extermination
Hamas can resign and nobody else has to die
Hamas does plan a genocide of every Jew everywhere. Please stop supporting Hamas. Don't stop for me, stop for free good of the Palestinian people


by metsandfinsfan k

The average Palestinian thinks the same about israelis. The hate is ugly all around.

The average Israeli is conscripted into the IDF. Do you see the problem yet?


by metsandfinsfan k

Don't stop for me, stop for free good of the Palestinian people

..before Israel is just forced to exterminate every last one of them, men, women and children.


by metsandfinsfan k

The average Palestinian thinks the same about israelis. The hate is ugly all around.

The American landscape had offered Refaat the chance to meet Jews who did not greet him from behind the barrel of an M-16, from inside the cockpit of an F-16, from the turret of a Merkava tank, or behind an occupation administrator’s desk. Refaat described it as his “Malcolm X moment.”

“When Malcolm X was in prison, his sister told him, ‘Elijah Muhammad said Islam is the true religion of black people and the white man is the Devil.’ He thought of every white person he had ever met in his life and realized that he had been harmed in one way or another by every one of them,” Refaat explained. “This is what’s happening to us in Palestine, because you never come face-to-face with a Jewish person who’s not armed to the teeth trying to kill you. And that makes it very hard to break with your prejudice.”

It was not until Refaat visited the United States that he came face-to-face with a Jew who sympathized with his plight as a Palestinian. “When you talk to Jewish people about their lives, they host you in their homes, you spend time with their families, they can educate you in ways beyond imagination because they know about Israel, about Jewish life, about Zionism,” he marveled. “You learn so much because they are insiders. It was the tour to America that changed me in so many ways.”

shockingly, they dont love their oppressors who are now doing "plausible genocide" and a "war of extermination".

keep bombing them, maybe they will start to like Israel.

btw, Israel assassinated the man who made that statement in Dec. they then proceeded to murder his daughter and infant grandson and much more of his family.

but tell me more about how they should not hold any animosity for a country where 90% support it.


they dont have to like israel - i dont think that is achievable in our lifetime

they just have to not send thousands of their young men over to rape and murder civilians

it's a non-negotiable


by jalfrezi k

..before Israel is just forced to exterminate every last one of them, men, women and children.

Yes let's try to make things so that it doesn't became necessary and morally imperative to do that.

If it does btw, every one of those people dying is on you guys.

If you didn't at every step endorse any action necessary to eradicate Hamas, you are personally responsible for every civilian who dies while we try to eradicate Hamas.

Personally, individually responsible.

As if you cut the child throat or push the trigger yourself


by jalfrezi k

..before Israel is just forced to exterminate every last one of them, men, women and children.

The goal of Israel is not to kill Palestinians, but to eliminate Hamas and the tunnels. It is important to avoid making false accusations and spreading misinformation.


by jalfrezi k

Not so fast rob.

I've said categorically that I don't support Hamas being in government:

Are you still going to call me a Hamas supporter?

I haven't changed my opinion, strongly implied by my statement that we have a difference of opinion and nothing more to discuss on that front.


Mets are you using chat gpt?


by jalfrezi k

Thousands of kids blown to pieces is a good thing according to people in this thread.

You're not allowed to say this.


by BOIDS k

they dont have to like israel - i dont think that is achievable in our lifetime

they just have to not send thousands of their young men over to rape and murder civilians

it's a non-negotiable

like I said, I dont think you are on the same page with the Israeli govt and its citizens.


by metsandfinsfan k

The goal of Israel is not to kill Palestinians, but to eliminate Hamas and the tunnels. It is important to avoid making false accusations and spreading misinformation.

And if Israel, with the help of allies, manages to eradicate Hamas (and proxies), that would save Palestinians, who are currently the victims of extreme violences and abuses by Hamas and proxies.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/violent-cl...

Pro Palestinian protesters blocking the entrance of a synagogue. Is that antisemitic? Can israelis have a protest and block a mosque? (They wouldn't imo)

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