Israel/Palestine thread
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Looks like Hamas will have one less supporter in the US Congress: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/nyreg...
Also one less squad member.
The people have spoken and sent this loud mouth packing.
when Israel and the USA stop murdering Gazans, then Yemen will stop targeting ships enabling it on some level.
they are not shooting at uninvolved ships. they are doing a heroic deed to stop this murder. probably bc they understand all too well the depravity of an American backed genocidal campaign.
Are you referring to the people who indoctrinate their children to hate Jews and do Nazi salutes? These are your hero's?
I have said before that the lack of cohesion in the Democratic party on the question of Israel and Palestine was a political vulnerability. The primary between Bowman and Latimer really put that lack of cohesion under the microscope. It's a very worrisome problem for Biden and almost certainly impossible to solve.
Wasn't Bowman a solid underdog once Latimer entered? I'm not saying I/P didn't play a role but his stances on Israel were a lot less idiotic than some of his other stances.
Not sure that there is that much carry over to Biden or that I would classify it as worrisome
How super-saiyan racist do you have to be to blithely assert that Arabs don't love their children? Fully dehumanizing nonsense that just gets tossed around as 20,000 children go missing in Gaza.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/num...
(in b4 someone tells me ABC News is Hamas)
I'm sure Prime Minister Meier didn't mean literally every Arab in her quote. In her defense you never see Israelis using their children as suicide bombers. You never see Israelis send their children into war zones or use them in terrorist attacks. Israel doesn't have their version of Hamas summer camp. Also, she didn't say that "Arabs don't love their children". She implied that their children are not their top priority and if they were perhaps there would be peace.
Wasn't Bowman a solid underdog once Latimer entered? I'm not saying I/P didn't play a role but his stances on Israel were a lot less idiotic than some of his other stances.
Not sure that there is that much carry over to Biden or that I would classify it as worrisome
The pro Hamas protests in the US alone may be enough to get Trump elected. If you're a fan of Presidementia Biden I would be very worried.
How super-saiyan racist do you have to be to blithely assert that Arabs don't love their children? Fully dehumanizing nonsense that just gets tossed around as 20,000 children go missing in Gaza.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/num...
(in b4 someone tells me ABC News is Hamas)
20.000 kids are allegedly missing. Who was watching them at the time they vanished? Certainly the parents of these children would have been keeping a watchful eye on them during these very dangerous times. Is it possible that these numbers are exaggerated? Is it possible these "children" were killed while fighting in this war? Were they at Hamas summer camp? I don't get how this could happen. If 20k children disappeared here in the US or in Israel we would have a pretty good idea of what happened. Obviously it probably wouldn't ever happen.
Wasn't Bowman a solid underdog once Latimer entered? I'm not saying I/P didn't play a role but his stances on Israel were a lot less idiotic than some of his other stances.
Not sure that there is that much carry over to Biden or that I would classify it as worrisome
I don't know if Bowman was an underdog from the moment Latimer entered. He might have been. He certainly did some embarrassing things while in office, most notably that fire alarm stunt. But Israel/Palestine was a significant driver as well.
The fact that Bowman lost isn't worrisome for Biden. What is worrisome is the extent to which I/P dominated the discussion and drove fundraising and Super PAC spending on both sides. This race was a national proxy battle of sorts between progressives and pro-Israeli centrists in the party, which is why this race turned out to be the most expensive House primary of all time.
20.000 kids are allegedly missing. Who was watching them at the time they vanished? Certainly the parents of these children would have been keeping a watchful eye on them during these very dangerous times. Is it possible that these numbers are exaggerated? Is it possible these "children" were killed while fighting in this war? Were they at Hamas summer camp? I don't get how this could happen. If 20k children disappeared here in the US or in Israel we would have a pretty good idea of what happene
bruv they were buried alive under rubble or blown to bits. and some were stolen by Israeli.
I'm sure Prime Minister Meier didn't mean literally every Arab in her quote. In her defense you never see Israelis using their children as suicide bombers. You never see Israelis send their children into war zones or use them in terrorist attacks. Israel doesn't have their version of Hamas summer camp. Also, she didn't say that "Arabs don't love their children". She implied that their children are not their top priority and if they were perhaps there would be peace.
Arabs care deeply, fundamentally about their children, as do all humans and an awful lot of non-human species. Seriously, imagine how quickly I'd get perma banned if I trotted out these kinds of gutter racist claims about Jewish people. Astonishing the level of dehumanizing rhetoric that it's okay to subject Arab people to in polite society.
(in b4 bUt aRaB iSn'T a RaCe!!1!)
I don't know if Bowman was an underdog from the moment Latimer entered. He might have been. He certainly did some embarrassing things while in office, most notably that fire alarm stunt. But Israel/Palestine was a significant driver as well.
The fact that Bowman lost isn't worrisome for Biden. What is worrisome is the extent to which I/P dominated the discussion and drove fundraising and Super PAC spending on both sides. This race was a national proxy battle of sorts between progressives and
the spending was 7/8 to 1 against bowman and it came from outside the dem party. i dont think it was a proxy battle between democrats at all. it was a successful attempt to divide the party from outside. bowman wasn't favored because the district became more westchester and less bronx due to the redistricting.
just look at the people celebrating. you have the likes of stephen miller cheering it on.
the "fire alarm" stunt was him trying to bigtime his way through a locked exit door and certainly was ill advised but it definitely wasn't "delaying a vote" or whatever the conservative narrative was that everyone immediately bought hook line and sinker.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/articl...
Benny Gantz: Israel can destroy Hezbollah’s military in days
I hope this is bluster because this is terrifying. Israeli 3 day special military operation is not a good idea.
Sounds like the Americans before Iraq.
the spending was 7/8 to 1 against bowman and it came from outside the dem party. i dont think it was a proxy battle between democrats at all. it was a successful attempt to divide the party from outside. bowman wasn't favored because the district became more westchester and less bronx due to the redistricting.
just look at the people celebrating. you have the likes of stephen miller cheering it on.
the "fire alarm" stunt was him trying to bigtime his way through a locked exit door and certa
Redrawing the district definitely was significant.
Arabs care deeply, fundamentally about their children, as do all humans and an awful lot of non-human species. Seriously, imagine how quickly I'd get perma banned if I trotted out these kinds of gutter racist claims about Jewish people. Astonishing the level of dehumanizing rhetoric that it's okay to subject Arab people to in polite society.
(in b4 bUt aRaB iSn'T a RaCe!!1!)
Again! I don't think Golda was referring all Arabs. She is referring to those who participate in terrorist acts and use their kids to do so. I'm just pointing out that Israeli families don't do these type of things. I agree that Arabs care deeply about their children. I think some don't have them as their top priority. Maybe they just value life differently. The vast majority of Arabs in this world are just like any other human who loves their children and would never send them into harms way. This is more of a regional situation that has gotten out of control.
Pleased to hear that.
