2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***
The 2024 WSOP will take place at Horseshoe Las Vegas and Paris Las Vegas from May 28 to July 17, 2024, with the Main Event running from July 3 to July 17. The Main Event – poker’s undisputed freezeout world championship – will have four starting days, beginning on Wednesday, July 3. Players may also register directly on Day 2.
I legit thought this Miner guy was DNegs
Bottom set is definitely not strong in PLO. HU is different of course but in a normal ring game bottom set is about the same as bottom pair in NLHE. You are almost never making money with a full house when you hold bottom set.
Yeah, seems better than that. In fact, I look at a lower set in PLO as akin to top pair in NLHE: on a relatively dry board, it will often be good, but if you find yourself getting a lot of chips in, you're probably behind.
At online PLO cash-games of plo100-500, your average equity when getting it all in one the flop with bottom set and 100bb stacks is 43% (sample size of several million hands). Still beats bottom pair in NLHE, by far, ofc.
Am i the only one who mutes it for these two announcers? Donnie and Remko are so hard to listen to.
They are better than Tuchman. I literally can't listen to that guy. His knowledge is none. Yes I can see they bet 500k, yes I can see what the turn card is, no I don't want to subscribe to pokergo.
Donnie and Remko are better, but they spend too much time blabbering on about pokergo than the game itself. Click that like button, we need 2k likes. Blahblah.
One hell of a thing to write in a vacuum I know, but I feel like 66 shouldn't go bust on JT6xA on the first hand of the ME lol. It's 300bb deep
edit: ok full HH here
The jam with TT was bad but are you sticking your entire stack in on the first level of the main with 66 on J6T4A?
lol that was so badly played. Ridiculous bet sizing, just itching to pile in 300bbs on 1st hand, Level 1, because omg I have ~bottom set! (not actual bottom set but we can discount 44 from ever being in opponents hand). 5th nuts and I’m piling I don’t care what my opponent is calling with LOL! GG, $10K for 1 hand played lol.
As told to PokerNews by John Gutierrez, Tony Guglietti was eliminated in the first hand of Day 1b.
Roughly 1,200 had gone in preflop between Gutierrez and Guglietti. The dealer fanned the flop of 5♠7♣6♠
. Guglietti bet and Gutierrez called.
The turn was a possible flush-completing 10♠
. Guglietti check-called a bet of 3,000 from Gutierrez.
On the 8X river, Guglietti shoved all in for his remaining chips. Gutierrez took a look back at his cards before making the call.
Tony Guglietti 9X9X
All in
John Gutierrez: A♠K♠
Gutierrez's nut flush beat the straight of Guglietti, and he was eliminated in the very first hand of Day 1b at the WSOP Main Event.
There’s a new leader in the worst played 1st hand competition
As told to PokerNews by John Gutierrez, Tony Guglietti was eliminated in the first hand of Day 1b.
Roughly 1,200 had gone in preflop between Gutierrez and Guglietti. The dealer fanned the flop of 5♠7♣6♠
. Guglietti bet and Gutierrez called.
The turn was a possible flush-completing 10♠
. Guglietti check-called a bet of 3,000 from Gutierrez.
On the 8X river, Guglietti shoved all in for his remaining chips. Gutierrez took a look back at his cards before making the call.
Tony Guglietti 9X9X
All in
John Gutierr
Good Lord, poker is well lol! Calling off 300bbs deep Hand #1 with a non-nut straight with a flush on board, just lol!
Good Lord, poker is well lol! Calling off 300bbs deep Hand #1 with a non-nut straight with a flush on board, just lol!
One of us is reading this wrong, because to me it doesn't look like he called off 300 bigs. It looks like he jammed the river for 6x pot.
This is 100x worse than either first-hand KO from yesterday.
Literally donating stacks.
Its 300bb deep.
Stacks go in 300bb deep cash games all the time and you dont need nuts vs 2nd nuts for it.
Main event day 1 is mostly ChipEV play while skipping on marginal spots, but you cant be waiting for someone to just donate stack to you if you want to get chips.
Idk man, this isn't aging well.
lol that was so badly played. Ridiculous bet sizing, just itching to pile in 300bbs on 1st hand, Level 1, because omg I have ~bottom set! (not actual bottom set but we can discount 44 from ever being in opponents hand). 5th nuts and I’m piling I don’t care what my opponent is calling with LOL! GG, $10K for 1 hand played lol.
15 combos to get value on river
AJ 9
JTs 2
ATdd 1
AKdd 1
AQdd 1
A4dd 1
25 combos you lose to
AA 3
JJ 3
TT 3
KQ 16
So yeah should block/check river and fold to a jam, even tho its a perfect spot to turn KK/QQ all fully in villains range to turn into a bluff. But it was well played untill river. Big raise on flop when there is ton of draws on the board with bottom set and then bet pot on turn. He gets massive value from all the draws if they dont get there on the river.
Assuming JT and AKdd/AQdd stack off there is exceptionally optimistic.
There's no way to add it into a solver but it being hand #1 does change the thought process for a lot of recs.
Daniel Negreanu tweeted that the TT should not go broke against the quad 8s the first hand of day 1a. Pathetic nit.
Villain has A8 with flushdraws J8 fully T8 two combos and 32 combos of straights in his range.
Only losing to 1 combo of 88. JJ squeeze pre OR do not donk flop, he can have them sometimes but very little. AA squeezes pre almost always and does not call pre to donk JT8 flop.
Daniel said that all the live pros would only call there but all the real pros would be going for the easy value there unless they got a live read.
All I can focus on is how Raymer looks like a white Kim Jong Un here
The Grinder/Hachem quads vs boat that goes check/check/check/check on turn and river is one of the most bizarre things I've seen.
Daniel Negreanu tweeted that the TT should not go broke against the quad 8s the first hand of day 1a. Pathetic nit.
Villain has A8 with flushdraws J8 fully T8 two combos and 32 combos of straights in his range.
Only losing to 1 combo of 88. JJ squeeze pre OR do not donk flop, he can have them sometimes but very little. AA squeezes pre almost always and does not call pre to donk JT8 flop.
Daniel said that all the live pros would only call there but all the real pros would be going for the easy value
There is a large group of recreational players who would 100% flat pre with JJ and then donk the flop. I think the river is close, but I'm not buying the "He rarely has JJ" argument. Just because a solver says you should squeeze there doesn't mean everybody will. A bunch of amateurs/recs are just flatting because they don't want to play a big pot OOP on hand 1 of the main with the most universally hated pocket pair amongst said recs.
Daniel Negreanu tweeted that the TT should not go broke against the quad 8s the first hand of day 1a. Pathetic nit.
Villain has A8 with flushdraws J8 fully T8 two combos and 32 combos of straights in his range.
Only losing to 1 combo of 88. JJ squeeze pre OR do not donk flop, he can have them sometimes but very little. AA squeezes pre almost always and does not call pre to donk JT8 flop.
Daniel said that all the live pros would only call there but all the real pros would be going for the easy value
It is said that it is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
There is a large group of recreational players who would 100% flat pre with JJ and then donk the flop. I think the river is close, but I'm not buying the "He rarely has JJ" argument. Just because a solver says you should squeeze there doesn't mean everybody will. A bunch of amateurs/recs are just flatting because they don't want to play a big pot OOP on hand 1 of the main with the most universally hated pocket pair amongst said recs.
Definitely, let’s not kid ourselves, even “pros” aren’t always re-popping Jacks, depending on position and pf action already. As you said, no one is looking to play for stacks, or close to it, with JJ on Hand #1 of Main.
The 9s shoved, which I'm not sure if that's better or worse played since it seems like he may have open shoved around 250 bbs on the river
Correct, I read it wrong. Even worse though imho, shoving your whole stack hand #1 with a non-nut 1-card straight into a turned flush board is just hella-bad lol.
It’s a ~10 day tournament, even if you double from 60k to 120k, you might not even be a favorite to cash on late Day 3 or early Day 4.
https://x.com/PokerNews/status/180897471...
What do you think about Astedts river play there? Shouldnt he get a lot more value after trapping preflop with kings and binking it on the river?
He just bets 1/2 pot.
Villain is so AK/QQ heavy so just check to him and look for raise or just bet potsize? Sometimes aces of course but thats just cooler, a lot more AK/AQ/QQ and even A5s if the old man ever looked at charts. Its BTN vs BB so ranges are wide.
Daniel Negreanu tweeted that the TT should not go broke against the quad 8s the first hand of day 1a. Pathetic nit.
Villain has A8 with flushdraws J8 fully T8 two combos and 32 combos of straights in his range.
Only losing to 1 combo of 88. JJ squeeze pre OR do not donk flop, he can have them sometimes but very little. AA squeezes pre almost always and does not call pre to donk JT8 flop.
Daniel said that all the live pros would only call there but all the real pros would be going for the easy value
You think most people are calling off with a straight there when TT jams? I think there's a pretty decent chance many players fold those boats too on literal hand 1 of the ME to a jam
A BTN 4b vs a BB is not "AK/QQ heavy" LOL
https://x.com/PokerNews/status/180897471...
What do you think about Astedts river play there? Shouldnt he get a lot more value after trapping preflop with kings and binking it on the river?
He just bets 1/2 pot.
Villain is so AK/QQ heavy so just check to him and look for raise or just bet potsize? Sometimes aces of course but thats just cooler, a lot more AK/AQ/QQ and even A5s if the old man ever looked at charts. Its BTN vs BB so ranges are wide.
The checked back turn in position. If he bets fairly strong on turn gotta think Lena is folding KK at that point.
