2024 ELECTION THREAD

He wasn't asked a hostile question so he didn't push back.

In fact he was proud of the technical difficulties because it showed how many listeners there were lol

He probably asked what a "DDOS attack" was, someone started saying "servers are overloaded due to too many requests because..." and he stopped listening.

I would confidently bet my life trump will use this to spin that the Kamabla campaign and/or deep state was afraid of this

The hilarious thing about that clip is that she calls Obama a Muslim and McCain responds with No, he’s a good man.

Just amazing.

lololol

I never really thought about this til just now

Good stuff

Poor Donald being pushed around by those black women asking nasty questions but very forgiving of the flailing of another psych patient. How kind of him.

In my memory, she called him a Muslim. But if you watch the clip, she actually called him "an Arab," which of course doesn't diminish your point.

Is there a risk that if Harris will drag American politics further left that we are going to get a further right candidate from the GOP in 2028?

further left then communism? you guys are going to need to make up some new slurs.

have you done the polling on Libunistism?

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It just show how ridiculous to think the far left is at the head of the Democratic Party .

100%.

2024 black/Indian woman

2028 - head of the Proud Boys

2032 1st trans prez

2036 KKK Grand wizard

2040 1st prez that identifies as a dolphin

2044 AI Prez (last prez)

I'm sure he's already told his top guys to work on a new way to stream interviews that won't be susceptible to ddos attacks that his employees are too afraid to tell him is just television.

left of what? forcing 10 years olds to give birth?

It would be quite easy to get someone to the right of Trump, because trump is quite moderate and centrist on most stuff.

But I am not sure that would benefit republicans though.

For abortion in particular for ex

Of course it is about Trump. The man is a dishonorable fraud who incompetently manages through tantrums. He is also a criminal, fraud and rapist.

Propelling him to power is a Republican Party that has completely abandoned integrity, honor and respect for the law. This largely achieved by a MAGA movement whose connection to reality is tenuous, so everyone walks around with blinders on and pretends these things still matter.

The GOP and American conservatism has only itself to blame for what has come to pass. Next time, try putting the bar at basic human decency and go from there.

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Maga is centrist lol .
The 3 sc Justice that trump put on there are centrist too .
How can anyone take this luciom character seriously ….

Nice example with the 3 SCOTUS judges nominated by Trump, who are on the left of Alito and Thomas, more moderate than them.

Agree. Democrat supporters should count themselves lucky it is Trump and not some other far right candidate from the GOP. Next election they probably won't be as lucky. The days for them of getting a candidate like John McCain are long gone.

"Regular folk should consider themselves lucky that Hitler isn't running" is a hot take.

One should never say never, but at this point it seems unlikely that the US conservative right is going to coalesce around a single candidate post-Trump. We don't really see evidence of anyone else rising to his level of popularity on social media that could take on the mantle. I also have my doubts we will see that, because "conservative" social media influencers are competing so hard for followers and donations that they end up preying on each-other. Which makes sense, that there is a lucrative business and they want their share before it dries up.

While not eligible for the presidency, we could perhaps look to Elon Musk as an exception to this trend. He racks it up in terms of followers. However, while he rises in fame, he drops in popularity and I've seen surveys claim he also drops in popularity among GOP supporters.

There is also this popular take that "the real danger is an intelligent and conniving Trump", one that is perhaps better at hiding his / her worst tendencies. I don't think that is too much to worry about either. I think Trump gained ground because he has no filter and his nonsense hit the zeitgeist of his time.

I'd be more worried about a GOP that has shown itself to be without much in the way of integrity or respect for the law.

I am no fan of most of Trump's policies, but ideological extremism isn't his biggest problem. Ideological extremism would require a commitment to abstract ideas that Trump doesn't have. "I am a god among men" isn't a real political ideology.

The country could weather a second term of Trump's erratic policies more easily than it could weather a second term of his unfitness, general lack of character, and complete disregard for anything other than his narrow self-interest.

Democrats since JFK can't win with leftist candidates. The only Presidents since LBJ that are democrats have been Jimmy Carter (moderate from Georgia), Bill Clinton (moderate from Arkansas), Obama (somewhat moderate Senator from Illinois but won most likely because the US was in massive economic meltdown) and Biden (moderate from DE, born in PA).

Kamala Harris was an Attorney General who prosecuted drug abusers and all types of criminals. And while she has been considered leftist in the Senate (some of which is based on not supporting any of Trump's judge nominees) my guess is she will steer towards the middle at the convention and at the debates.

As a VP she has not been in charge of the border as many right wing posters have made up (she was asked to look into 3 Latin American countries where there was a huge rise in Asylum seekers as a result of the state of affairs in those countries). It is a campaign tactic that will fail because:
1) Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill that would have increased border patrol among other things,
2) Kamala has come out in support of that bill and would try to get it passed as President,
3) The current immigration rate at the border in the last 5 months is now at Trump presidency levels before Covid
4) Immigrants do not increase the crime rate in the US (as Trump has been lying about) - simply because if they are caught committing a crime they will be deported
5) Immigration does help to reduce inflation because food in the fields actually gets picked in the US (similarly for construction and landscaping)
6) Countries are not releasing prisoners who are immigrating to the US (as Trump has repeatedly lied about)
7) Many Hispanic US citizens that feel the prejudice being unleashed by Trump, will either not vote or vote for Kamala. This is basically why Trump lost Arizona and Nevada in 2020

The other things not really discussed much are all of Trump's lies. About immigrants being rapists (this one is ironic since Trump twice lost cases in court where he was trying to deny he had sexually assault E. Jean Carroll) and drug dealers (the vast majority of drug dealers aren't even immigrants and aren't crossing the border illegally). Politically the lie that might cost him the most is the lie about Kamala becoming Black only recently (she went to Howard University a basically all Black college and she lived there in a Black sorority). Already Black support for Trump has dropped (Polls on 7/23 had Kamala up by 23% with Black voters and 4 days ago she was up by 53% and my guess is it will continue to increase).

The one thing that will alter the way people in the middle think about Kamala is how close to the middle she comes out. Her stance on guns is likely not to hurt her because 90%+ of Americans want there to be background checks on all gun purchases and something like 60% want assault rifles banned again (when they were previously banned for 10 years the number of people killed in mass murders dropped). Aside from immigration I am guessing she will try to take positions that appeal to working class Americans. Like backing away from banning fracking which she has already done (this may be how she wins PA). And allowing tips to be not taxable (LOL)