2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
There aren't any liberals left who are willing to regularly contribute to that thread.
The anti trans crowd outnumbers the "treat others with empathy" crowd like 4:1 yet you still make ridiculous verifiably false posts like this on the regular
coordi, basically the only thing we truly fundamentally disagree upon there is whether lia thomas should be allowed to compete in women's swimming
it's incredibly dishonest for you to paint that as a matter of empathy, especially so that there is a much better argument that you lack empathy for the cisgender women who can't physically compete with a woman who was a man up until the age of 20
thanks for proving my point though, where you happily slander and denigrate fellow liberals for being evil sociopaths because they don't think lia should be allowed to compete with women
63% of Republicans still believe the 2020 election was stolen. As time progresses more of them just believe it without evidence.
this is deeply misleading
polls like this are not done for social sciences but rather for news headlines so they are crafted in a manner to elicit the results that'll grab the most attention
if you were to ask democrats if they thought the 2000 election was stolen the majority would say no but you'd have plenty who would still say yes
however, if you were to ask if they thought gore was the rightful president or perhaps if you thought there were some discrepancies in florida that should have been investigated then you'd get the overwhelming majority say he should have won and/or there were irregularities that should have been looked into before declaring a winner
we even saw this with hillary where she has actually said in televised interviews that the election was stolen from her because she won the popular vote
if 63% of republicans genuinely believed the election was stolen we'd have far greater issues than then sitting by and whining about it on social media
and people also tend to follow confirmation bias (see coordi's response above) and just follow their heart and will happily set aside rational analysis in order to just pursue what they believe in their heart of hearts must be true
for a large segment of the population, people like biden and hillary are effeminate lying cucks who will say anything to get eleccted and they personally loathe them to the point where they'd get up and leave the table if they sat down - for those people, they will believe anything even without any clear evidence simply because they hate them so much that it must be true and those crooked people are just really good at hiding it
watch the new frontline doc on biden (it's amazing)
put together by the very liberal pbs which will want to favor him immensely, it still paints biden as an incompetent lying pos because they are just accurately reporting it - the people the dems have been putting forward post-obama are loathsome disgusting individuals who nobody would ever in their right mind support unless they were ideologues who couldn't stand the idea of a non-democrat in power
again, this is not advocating for trump in the slightest, he's even worse, but he's a lot more admirable than biden because he knows and tells you he's a POS while biden will smugly lie and pretend like he isn't
dave chappelle is great at explaining why trump is so popular amongst so many people
The writing of baham is good enough to know his lying like all the folks on foxnews do….
Wouldn’t surprise me at all his a paid shill in some way from a conservative group.
His lies are too huge and his reality is too distorted to be what he really believes in While following the exact “ propagande du jour” of the Republican Party .
You think someone pays bahbah to post... here?
These days you can add the environment to the very long list of things modern day US conservatism does not want to conserve.
Other things it has deemed no longer necessary is morals, norms, integrity, law, order and basic human decency.
It is long overdue to abandon Trumpism.
Yes the only legitimate rightwing policies are those the left agrees with, we know.
The rest is antidemocratic, against "human decency" , and so on.
It's illegal to disagree with democrats
It’s not 0% .
Or his a troll arguing in bad faith .
Baham ain’t dumb but the stuff he believes in at the level he doesn’t add up .
When baham speak he sounds like hannity and people like that .
They speak good , they try to build some semblance of logical argument but in the end you know they full of $h!t and data show they lie their asses of …
It’s 100% Republican propaganda without a shred of doubts .
You think that is how the two sides dividing line is? I think you're proving rick's point.
You can just read Phresh's posts and watch the wagons circle around his objectively bigoted view points and see that he was clearly "one of them".
There is no pro trans stance that would ever put up with Phresh's opinions, let alone support them.
coordi, basically the only thing we truly fundamentally disagree upon there is whether lia thomas should be allowed to compete in women's swimming
it's incredibly dishonest for you to paint that as a matter of empathy, especially so that there is a much better argument that you lack empathy for the cisgender women who can't physically compete with a woman who was a man up until the age of 20
thanks for proving my point though, where you happily slander and denigrate fellow liberals for being evil
You don't have a point. You just live in this world of sophistry where you are never wrong despite making everything up on the spot
Yes the only legitimate rightwing policies are those the left agrees with, we know.
The rest is antidemocratic, against "human decency" , and so on.
It's illegal to disagree with democrats
No, it is not about left versus right. Any person on the right-wing or conservative is more than free abandon the current ideological leaders of US conservatism.
Not supporting Trump is in no way, shape or form the same as abandoning right-wing politics or conservatism. It is simply a rejection of its current direction.
It's hardly the first political movement to find itself under horrible leadership and demagogues, and it won't be the last.
It’s not 0% .
Or his a troll arguing in bad faith .
Baham ain’t dumb but the stuff he believes in at the level he doesn’t add up .
When baham speak he sounds like hannity and people like that .
They speak good , they try to build some semblance of logical argument but in the end you know they full of $h!t and data show they lie their asses of …
It’s 100% Republican propaganda without a shred of doubts .
I can't help but giggle at the thought of the strategists/managers at some conservative troll farm having a meeting where someone is presenting a PowerPoint with their latest list of targets, and a slide comes up: "ah, and now we have the left leaning Politics section of a dying poker forum, with about 20 regular posters who are 95% middle aged men. Need to make sure we get our top guy on that".
Actually, now that I've conjured up that scenario - if he is a paid shill, he is probably the useless guy who gets the shittiest jobs, hence they exiled him here.
You can just read Phresh's posts and watch the wagons circle around his objectively bigoted view points and see that he was clearly "one of them".
There is no pro trans stance that would ever put up with Phresh's opinions, let alone support them.
notice how he won't actually say what phresh's stance is because it's a lot scarier to just let your imagine run wild with the terrible things he could have said instead of facing the uncertainty that many reading it would believe his views to be quite moderate
notice how earlier when he was calling me a terrible person who lacks empathy it was strictly because i don't think lia thomas should have been allowed to compete in women's college sports - yeah i know, i'm worse than hitler
notice how he won't actually say what phresh's stance is because it's a lot scarier to just let your imagine run wild with the terrible things he could have said instead of facing the uncertainty that many reading it would believe his views to be quite moderate
notice how earlier when he was calling me a terrible person who lacks empathy it was strictly because i don't think lia thomas should have been allowed to compete in women's college sports - yeah i know, i'm worse than hitler
Phresh doesn't believe trans people exist. He doesn't even think about trans men (women in his ethos), but he thinks all trans women (men in his ethos) are mentally ill abusers who want to do terrible things to women.
Apparently this is a benign opinion to have about trans people
I can't help but giggle at the thought of the strategists/managers at some conservative troll farm having a meeting where someone is presenting a PowerPoint with their latest list of targets, and a slide comes up: "ah, and now we have the left leaning Politics section of a dying poker forum, with about 20 regular posters who are 95% middle aged men. Need to make sure we get our top guy on that".
Actually, now that I've conjured up that scenario - if he is a paid shill, he is probably the useless
20 regular poster of which 12 can't vote in american elections, and 7 live in states that aren't purple
notice how he won't actually say what phresh's stance is because it's a lot scarier to just let your imagine run wild with the terrible things he could have said instead of facing the uncertainty that many reading it would believe his views to be quite moderate
notice how earlier when he was calling me a terrible person who lacks empathy it was strictly because i don't think lia thomas should have been allowed to compete in women's college sports - yeah i know, i'm worse than hitler
flailing sophistry
btw, this is exactly why no liberals are willing to engage in that thread anymore
You don't have a point. You just live in this world of sophistry where you are never wrong despite making everything up on the spot
lol, at least you're no longer outright making things up about me and instead just giving opinions
this a huge improvement over your serial lies attempting to slander me where you made things up like "rick said the democratic party is no different than the khmer rouge" and "rick is an evil bigot without any empathy" so looks like we're back on the right track towards being friends again 😀
Phresh doesn't believe trans people exist. He doesn't even think about trans men (women in his ethos), but he thinks all trans women (men in his ethos) are mentally ill abusers who want to do terrible things to women.
Apparently this is a benign opinion to have about trans people
this is not what he said in the slightest - anyone who cares to see can do so themselves, phresh has perhaps only 10 posts total in that thread so it won't take more than a minute to see what he's posted
Rick and coordi should just get a room and get to the hardcore soaking already. All this foreplay is getting tiresome for the audience.
I can't help but giggle at the thought of the strategists/managers at some conservative troll farm having a meeting where someone is presenting a PowerPoint with their latest list of targets, and a slide comes up: "ah, and now we have the left leaning Politics section of a dying poker forum, with about 20 regular posters who are 95% middle aged men. Need to make sure we get our top guy on that".
Actually, now that I've conjured up that scenario - if he is a paid shill, he is probably the useless
U post freely here .
Baham show up about once a week , put some nonsense bs gets his 10$ and go home .
Still he end up +ev vs you lol .
this is not what he said in the slightest - anyone who cares to see can do so themselves, phresh has perhaps only 10 posts total in that thread so it won't take more than a minute to see what he's posted
I'm beginning to question your ability to parse information. He has 44 posts, not 10
lmao @ the mods removing my post and giving me an infraction because 2+2 is captured by the gender cult. What an absolute joke. There literally is no evidence whatsoever for trans-identity. It is an unfalsifiable state of mind and I can't believe a poker forum has fallen victim to such horseshit. I didn't say there aren't people that identify themselves as "trans." I said there is no such thing as trans BECAUSE THERE ISN'T. Pathetic. Ganstaman is a garbage mod and should absolutely withdraw from
Where am I "not even slightly" representing his stance in my post
This is your teammate. You took him in.
coordi, basically the only thing we truly fundamentally disagree upon there is whether lia thomas should be allowed to compete in women's swimming
it's incredibly dishonest for you to paint that as a matter of empathy, especially so that there is a much better argument that you lack empathy for the cisgender women who can't physically compete with a woman who was a man up until the age of 20
thanks for proving my point though, where you happily slander and denigrate fellow liberals for being evil
The vast majority of democrats don't believe the election was stolen. In principal its partly because Barr who was an avid Trump supporter made it clear there was no fraud. Also so did the head of Homeland Security. Both republicans appointed by Trump.
Also, the polls were done to see if Trump was believed by people who supported him. Not in a manner to elicit results that will grab attention.
I personally thought it was going to be an emperor without clothes moment for Trump. But no.
however, if you were to ask if they thought gore was the rightful president or perhaps if you thought there were some discrepancies in florida that should have been investigated then you'd get the overwhelming majority say he should have won and/or there were irregularities that should have been looked into before declaring a winner
After the Supreme Court ruled that the recount in Florida had to be stopped and George W Bush was declared the winner by 537 votes
There were three recounts that happened after Bush became President. Two were biased (and they split with Republicans winning one and Democrats the other) and the unbiased one had Gore winning.
So many of the Democrats who thought Gore won thought so because had a recount been allowed to continue Gore was gaining at the time (and the actual recounts seem to favor him).
we even saw this with hillary where she has actually said in televised interviews that the election was stolen from her because she won the popular vote
If she said that then she is really stupid. I never liked her.
if 63% of republicans genuinely believed the election was stolen we'd have far greater issues than them sitting by and whining about it on social media
I think we do have serious issues because 63% or more of republicans believe the election was stolen. We have Trump saying that if he loses there will be a bloodbath.
But part of the reason we have 63% of republicans believing the election was stolen is because many Republicans have left the party as a result of Trump. My guess is that if we were looking at all Republicans (even those who left the party) it would be less than 50%. And if we didn't include the new MAGA Trump people it would likely be less than 33%.
Still it is 63% of the current republican party. Which means we will not have an election in 2024 that will be believed unless Trump wins.
and people also tend to follow confirmation bias (see coordi's response above) and just follow their heart and will happily set aside rational analysis in order to just pursue what they believe in their heart of hearts must be true
for a large segment of the population, people like biden and hillary are effeminate lying cucks who will say anything to get eleccted and they personally loathe them to the point where they'd get up and leave the table if they sat down - for those people, they will believe anything even without any clear evidence simply because they hate them so much that it must be true and those crooked people are just really good at hiding it
watch the new frontline doc on biden (it's amazing)
put together by the very liberal pbs which will want to favor him immensely, it still paints biden as an incompetent lying pos because they are just accurately reporting it - the people the dems have been putting forward post-obama are loathsome disgusting individuals who nobody would ever in their right mind support unless they were ideologues who couldn't stand the idea of a non-democrat in power
again, this is not advocating for trump in the slightest, he's even worse, but he's a lot more admirable than biden because he knows and tells you he's a POS while biden will smugly lie and pretend like he isn't
dave chappelle is great at explaining why trump is so popular amongst so many people
"President Donald Trump, who has been estimated to have made over 5,000 misleading statements during his presidency, has admitted that he only tells the truth when he can.
"Well, I try. I do try … and I always want to tell the truth," Trump said in an interview with ABC's White House correspondent Jonathan Karl on Wednesday. "When I can, I tell the truth. And sometimes it turns out to be where something happens that's different or there's a change, but I always like to be truthful."
The comments came after Karl noted that during his 2016 presidential campaign, then-candidate Trump had made a promise that he would never lie to the American people."
even though Trump is admitting that he sometimes doesn't tell the truth he tries to make it sound like he is not lying just that its not his fault that he doesn't know what happened. Not that he is a POS.
I voted for Biden because I didn't want Trump to be president again. And I knew that he lied about stuff. But he doesn't lie to the extent that Trump does. Trump doesn't admit to his lies either as far as I know. He cheats at golf and as a result has won many tournaments at his golf clubs. I have never heard him admit that. When Trump lied about not having sexually abused E Jean Carrol not only didn't he admit it he continued the lies and lost a second lawsuit. He still hasn't admitted that he lied about it. When Trump lied about Obama's birthplace not being in the US he had to stop (or he wouldn't have been allowed to run as a Republican). But he never said he lied about it. He just said that Obama had been born in the US.
sorry for not counting the exact amount of posts, i'm sure you'll find some evil motive for why i would rhetorically state that he hasn't posted much there by giving a small number instead of counting them out - either way point stands, you can go to the thread, search phresh, and catch up on everything he's posted there in a jiffy
you attributed malice to his belief
this is the part which is bullshit
he thinks all trans women (men in his ethos) are mentally ill abusers who want to do terrible things to women.
again, you took his belief of "i think we're treating the symptoms and not the disease" and morphed it into something evil and with malice
i do not agree with his stance personally, i think for many people, their experience is real - but i do deeply object to how you villainize him and falsely include malice and ill intent behind his belief
and of course you choose the "wtf did you delete my post" of his where he was clearly very upset at the time - again, if anyone actually cares, feel free to see his body of work
