2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
That moment, even if planned, where she almost called him a you know what was so glorious. I was literally laughing about that for the rest of the night.
Absolutely glorious.
Trump actually did way better than I expected. He only sounded completely unhinged, unintelligent, unprepared, and unashamed. I also expected a lot more dementia than I saw.
I like how half the things you say were debunked were Trump saying "No, I didnt do that, trust me bro."
Thats not debunking. Like 4/5's of the team who came up with project 2025 worked on his staff during his time in the white house.
And oh yeah, he also said "Ive never read it but I know there are some good things and some bad things in there." Pretty (confident?)answer from a dude who claims he never read it
The one thing Trump says that I believe is "I've never read ..."
I doubt that he has read a single thing other than a headline, the crawl across a TV screen, or a post on Twitter or his soon-to-be bankrupt site in the past 30 years.
I would not believe him if he said nobody has told him what Project 2025 is or what is covered in it.
Post...
your being played!
when (where) was that?
9/11 Memorial
So they are eating geese but not cats? Is that what's been decided?
They are eating what they think are strays/wildlife as they do in their culture.
Btw both venezuelans recently, and Italians during and immediately after WW2, ate pets.
Real hunger from poverty tends to make you do that.
How many people in Ohio have pet ducks/geese? Is that a thing there? (My husband and his family are from Ohio, and they never had fowl as pets.)
As far as I can tell the totality of the evidence that any of this is happening is a random picture from a random twitter account making a random claim
There was a woman clearly having a mental episode that killed and started eating a cat but there is no reason to think shes Haitian. It was also in Canton which isn't particularly close to Springfield
As far as I can tell the totality of the evidence that any of this is happening is a random picture from a random twitter account making a random claim
There was a woman clearly having a mental episode that killed and started eating a cat but there is no reason to think shes Haitian. It was also in Canton which isn't particularly close to Springfield
No actually the evidence is local police getting reports from citizens.
Ofc those could be all organized to be fake and so on but it's a tad different from saying it's a meme originated on twitter
There was a woman clearly having a mental episode that killed and started eating a cat but there is no reason to think shes Haitian. It was also in Canton which isn't particularly close to Springfield
Apparently it was this plus
In the Facebook post, a person says a neighbor's daughter's friend lost her cat and later found it hanging from a branch near a Haitian neighbor's house, according to the Springfield News-Sun. Screenshots of the post have been circulating on X and other platforms, racking up thousands of likes and views.
So basically the same as the liter boxes in high schools for students that identified as cats. Started on Facebook then Joe Rogan said it happened at a school his buddy's wife teaches at. When in reality he probably doesn't even have a friend whose wife is a teacher.
I like how half the things you say were debunked were Trump saying "No, I didnt do that, trust me bro."
Thats not debunking. Like 4/5's of the team who came up with project 2025 worked on his staff during his time in the white house.
And oh yeah, he also said "Ive never read it but I know there are some good things and some bad things in there." Pretty (confident?)answer from a dude who claims he never read it
Just because he hasn't read it doesn't mean someone didn't mention a policy or two about it to him at some point in the last year or so.
I've never read it either but I am extremely confident there would be things in there I would say are good and some I'd say are bad. I think I could say the same thing about any politician's agenda who has run for a major office in the last 20 years. Anyone who says different is either extreme right or extreme left.
We aren't boys. I've never met him and I'm not a big fan of his.
This is a terrible way of measuring moderation. Imagine a debate between Candidate A who lies 200 times and Candidate B who lies one time. (I understand that this is more extreme than the actual disparity between Trump and Kamala. I am making it more extreme to make a point.)
By your logic, if the moderators fact checked Candidate A four times and Candidate B one time, then Candidate A's supporters would be able to plausibly claim that the debate was moderated in a biased way to the disadvan
I pointed out 5 or so lies she told during her debate and as I said earlier I've only watched the first half but so far they have fact checked her 0% of the time. I think it is debatable if he lied more than her.
To your example if you have candidate A lying 200 times and B only lied once I think you either fact check all 201 lies or 0. Anything else is unfair, IMO.
On top of the outright lies they both told there were obvious mis-truths that at least in some cases were just as bad as the lies. Example: kamala suggested economists think the US economy is better off under her plan than trump's and site some economists who are paid/funded by the US govt and considering their conflict of interest should not be considered. I don't think any respected economist in the private sector would say any plan a repub has put out in the last 50 years could be worse than someone suggesting price controls, taxing unrealized cap gains, raising corporate taxes and raising taxes on the rich.
Being mad that a serial liar who is demonstrably incapable of either telling the truth or accepting the slightest bit of criticism doesn’t get to gaslight the audience with impunity is really a choice that says more about how amoral you are than how biased ABC is
Feel free to tell me which time the moderator stepped in was an overreach because it wasn’t a massive lie by trump. And to rococo’s point these checks were to a fraction of the wholesale lies he was able to get through unchecked
‘Hey that
The candidates that hate the fact checkers the most are the lying pieces of **** like Trump.
It's pretty amazing that the only maga take on the debate is to complain that someone corrected their guy when he continues to spew lies.
I can't speak for the mega crowd, but from what I've heard (and what I have a problem with) is fact checking one candidate and not the other. I am in no way saying we shouldn't have fact checking - I am saying have it for both, but if you can't do that fairly then have it for neither.
My roommate when I was about 20 years old one time came home with a duck that he shot at the local park.
Don't be so modest, you certainly can.
but from what I've heard (and what I have a problem with) is fact checking one candidate and not the other. I am in no way saying we shouldn't have fact checking - I am saying have it for both, but if you can't do that fairly then have it for neither.
Ah, you want the fact checkers to say that both candidates are lying when in fact only one is lying, in the interests of "fairness". I see. Very on brand "logic" for you. After all, based on your performances here, it's pretty clear that you see lying as a legitimate debate tactic. Either that, or you think that "truth" is whatever is convenient to the propaganda du jour that you're pushing. I'm not even sure which.
