2024 ELECTION THREAD

Churchill = 2x
Stalin = 0
Mao = 0
Lenin = -x

I expect Vance to crush. He has all the facts on his side and he will be well prepared unlike Trump.

Facts like "illegal immigrants eating cats in Ohio"? Maybe you have a different definition of "facts" than I do. An alternative definition, if you will.

Definitely interested in hearing these “facts” you mention

Facts like JD Vance never liked Donald Trump and is a "never Trump" guy.
Facts like people shouldn't believe that billionaires know anything about them or are on their side.

JD embodies the two worst qualities a politician can have - zero charisma and an inability to speak on his feet without sticking his foot in his mouth. Walz is a natural at this and will embarrass him.

bUt jD hAz fAx

How did I not see that?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-el...

JD has his facts--as long as they don't disagree with Trump's facts. Gonna be hard to fight that.

Prepared is not how I would describe JDs interviews but he’s a conservative and will at least do some minimum prep work so will look great on the Trump affirmative action scale.

Yeah I realized little while ago that these are basically the 2 most prominent guys of the post Trump maga movement. I don’t know what odds I could get for Tucker Carlson being the next republican nominee. But I’d take it.

Strong possibility Tucker Carlson will be the 2028 repub pres candidate, if he wants it.

The best people, always and forever.

I saw Tucker talking recently and he actually seemed intelligent and charismatic. I'd only seen clips of him acting like a buffoon for the camera and looking like a potato

If you say so.

I don't see it. DeSantis is personally awkward and deeply uncomfortable with speaking extemporaneously. He comes across as a nervous guy who is doing a shitty job of rolling out his canned lines.

JDV is very comfortable speaking extemporaneously. In fact, I would say that he loves it. His problem as a politician is that he is unprincipled and not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. The latter problems leads to him saying a lot of dumb **** off the cuff that he believes in the moment is terrible clever. Also, he hasn't absorbed the fact that Trump has much more leeway to say outrageous **** than he does.

Both guys are relatively weak politicians, but in different ways imo.

Tucker Carlson seeming intelligent is definitely the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Vance is untested in national elections or anyway in situations where moderation pays positively with voters.

Rds won a purple state election and actually moved the state toward his side which isn't a common feat, politically.

In terms of ability to win elections where it matters (in the middle) rds is decisively better than Vance.

Vance ofc is much smarter

Dey comin' for yer feet and inches, folks!

As an aside, TC has to have the most punchable face I've ever seen.

I don’t even get the impression JD thinks he’s smart. Like I think his wife is significantly smarter than him and he’s used to being the dumbest guy in the room.

JDV is more glib than DeSantis, but it isn't at all obvious to me that he is smarter than DeSantis. Why do you believe that to be the case?

I guess we have no way of knowing for sure, but I disagree.

Ted Cruz would like a word.

TC's unite!