2nl to 200nl or die trying...
Hi all. Thought I would start recording my progress as I attempt to grind a roll from 2nl to 200nl and even further if p
I don't think you understand reasons why opening more bad suited hands are profitable.
IMO at micros it's because BB overfold/
under 3B/ Too passive postflop and for that reasons being loose-aggro is good, but once they fight back 3B pre or raise postflop we should over-fold even more then GTO would.
Day 6 morning session done. Tables drying up might hop on later a play a bit more.
Current BR: $207.28
I don't think you understand reasons why opening more bad suited hands are profitable.
IMO at micros it's because BB overfold/
under 3B/ Too passive postflop and for that reasons being loose-aggro is good, but once they fight back 3B pre or raise postflop we should over-fold even more then GTO would.
I do understand and I know this.. I was going to add that if BB is going to start 3betting enough to make these hands not +EV anymore then I would just tighen up anyway... Can people stop assuming I'm clueless please 😃
Yeah I shouldn't have said that. After I thought well actually I don't need to because if someone is 3betting BB enough I would just stop opening so wide.. but I don't want to keep banging on about the same point in multiple messages 😃 This is all pretty basic stuff isn't it.
Had a huge win with suited trash otb today.
These are the current results that include only the trash suited hands solver would not open on the button. Without good reason not to, which is very rare, I open them 100%.
These look way too tight. no K7-K3s in CO, not enough suited trash 3betting BB vs SB, or calling enough. reckon you could open SB super-wide into BB and it's already a printing strategy against this kind of response. This will become burning as you move up stakes and encounter more competent players.
just nick the free gtowizard ones and save the hassle of re-learning it all down the line.
These look way too tight. no K7-K3s in CO, not enough suited trash 3betting BB vs SB, or calling enough. reckon you could open SB super-wide into BB and it's already a printing strategy against this kind of response. This will become burning as you move up stakes and encounter more competent players.
just nick the free gtowizard ones and save the hassle of re-learning it all down the line.
The BVB one is something I took from solver and it's almost a 1:1 copy lol.. just a few simplifications.
It's going to be really hard to convince me to make opens I know are massively -EV mate 😆
Are you winning with K5s UTG?
The BVB one is something I took from solver and it's almost a 1:1 copy lol.. just a few simplifications.
It's going to be really hard to convince me to make opens I know are massively -EV mate 😆
Are you winning with K5s UTG?
Taking UTG open range as example
Even in 10NL raked sims you have KTs-K5s opening pure (exception of K6s) regardless of opening size. Also missing QTs Q9s AJo ATo KJo.
It's simply just too nitty - at least 5% too tight.
I don't know if this is the case, but if red means 4bet and green means call 3bet, then those ranges are never 4bet bluffing, so 3bets against it are printing as that range overfolds a ton.
I get that it's a standard exploit to play tight and then fit or fold at super micros and live games, if your goal truly is to reach 200nl, this strategy needs revamping.
Taking UTG open range as example
Even in 10NL raked sims you have KTs-K5s opening pure (exception of K6s) regardless of opening size. Also missing QTs Q9s AJo ATo KJo.
It's simply just too nitty - at least 5% too tight.
I don't know if this is the case, but if red means 4bet and green means call 3bet, then those ranges are never 4bet bluffing, so 3bets against it are printing as that range overfolds a ton.
I get that it's a standard exploit to play tight and then fit or fold at super micros and l
This is not my range lol. nor my 4betting bluffing ranges etc. I would never post that on the internet 😃
Can I see your graph of K5s-k8s for UTG pls?
To give a little context I have 5bet bluffs in some of my ranges. I was 4bet bluffing from UTG back in 2011
Congrats then you're a much better player than me. I'll consider what you've said in future when/if I stop winning as I move up.
I meant no disrespect in my advice or posting of graphs, I’m offering you my opinions based on my experience. It’s poker - results will vary, but I consider myself capable of advising on such matters given my track record.
Keep working hard, results are looking good. I will pop in to offer advice - as a remote worker you can imagine how little i leave my desk.
No worries
Tbh if that's the case. If I have to learn preflop charts that were draw up by computer and remember postflop lines like it's chess then I probably don't want to be playing the game at all. I'm not that pessimistic though. I will keep up with my own experimentation, ranges, lines etc. If that is not good enough for 100nl, or 200nl then so be it. But I doubt it.
I meant no disrespect in my advice or posting of graphs, I’m offering you my opinions based on my experience. It’s poker - results will vary, but I consider myself capable of advising on such matters given my track record.
Keep working hard, results are looking good. I will pop in to offer advice - as a remote worker you can imagine how little i leave my desk.
I don't want to keep dragging this discussion out. But I still think you're wrong. Whether a hand is profitable from a certain position depends on the environment you're playing in. If in solver land or 200nl or wherever, the bottom of your solver UTG range might well be break even, but where I'm playing that is not necessarily the case. If you know that when you open ATo UTG and you're going to get called in multiple spots and 3bet 80% of the time then the correct play is always going to be to not to open it. Solver land does not equal reality when people are not playing by solver's rules. The upside is value of premium hands go up by a lot.
Not all spots you need to nit up though, some spots you can play looser than solver as you would have seen in my posts about SB and BTN suited trash hands.
Please don't tell me to keep working hard because that is very condescending lol I have spent and an insane amount of time thinking about and studying poker in my life. Probably more than you.
Not on my game today. Feeling more stressed than usual and tired lol. Missed a clear tripple barrel bluff spot and some other mistakes.
Day 7 results:
Weekly Graph:
Current BR: $222.11
Felt I played much better than yesterday 90% of the time. Started losing focus a little bit towards the end though.
Day 8 results:
+$3 rakeback
Going to spend the rest of my morning session making a new 3bet/4bet pop up because the premade one I'm using is not detailed enough.
Current BR: $242.02
Played ok today, was autopoliting for most of the session though. Made a couple of dubious calls.
Day 9 Results:
Current BR: $250.84
Gl man , seems like u put the job.Think long run and focus on things you can control and you will move up in stakes in no time!
Felt I played quite well today. focus was good, I think it's improving due to the consistency of my sessions now. Went through a long period where it felt like I couldn't win a hand, getting raised otr constantly, missing every flop etc etc etc which lead to a couple of mistakes. I'll post them in a spoiler.
Day 10 results:
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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2
and Database Software
NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HJ ($5) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 12.8% | AGG: 22.8% | Hands: 570]
HERO ($5.26) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 35.9% | Flop Agg: 38.8% | Turn Agg: 37.2% | River Agg: 32.8% | 3Bet: 8% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.3% | 4Bet: 8.7% | Hands: 29962]
BTN ($6.42) [VPIP: 19.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 34.4% | Hands: 465]
SB ($8.15) [VPIP: 35% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 46.2% | Hands: 41]
BB ($5) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 18.6% | AGG: 22.8% | Hands: 119]
UTG ($5) [VPIP: 19.5% | PFR: 19.5% | AGG: 35.7% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 42]
Dealt to Hero: A♣ J♣
UTG Raises To $0.15, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.45, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.30
Hero SPR on Flop: [4.69 effective]
Flop ($0.97): 3♠ 7♠ 9♣
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $0.46 (Rem. Stack: $4.35), UTG Calls $0.46 (Rem. Stack: $4.09)
Turn ($1.89): 3♠ 7♠ 9♣ 8♣
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $1.21 (Rem. Stack: $3.14), UTG Raises To $4.09 (allin), HERO Calls $2.88 (Rem. Stack: $0.26)
River ($10.07): 3♠ 7♠ 9♣ 8♣ 6♠
Spoiler
UTG shows: 8♦ 9♦
UTG wins: $9.57
I think I should just check back ott here. Nothing is folding really except the occasional AK float or underpair and I'm getting jammed on a lot on that card. In game I knew it was a check back but was forcing things due to small period of run bad. After he jams I think my call is about break even, maybe slightly losing.
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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2
SoftwareNL Holdem 0.05(BB)
CO ($5) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 12.8% | AGG: 22.8% | Hands: 570]
HERO ($5.46) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 35.9% | Flop Agg: 38.8% | Turn Agg: 37.2% | River Agg: 32.8% | 3Bet: 8% | 4Bet: 8.7% | Hands: 29962]
SB ($5) [VPIP: 19.2% | PFR: 12.1% | AGG: 34.4% | Flop Agg: 35.5% | Turn Agg: 39.5% | River Agg: 21.7% | 3Bet: 3.4% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 14.2% | Hands: 465]
BB ($5.22) [VPIP: 35% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 46.2% | Hands: 41]
HJ ($2.97) [VPIP: 29% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 30% | Hands: 32]
Dealt to Hero: 3♠ 7♠
HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.12, SB Calls $0.10, BB Folds
Hero SPR on Flop: [16.83 effective]
Flop ($0.29): 6♥ 8♠ J♣
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.19 (Rem. Stack: $5.15), SB Calls $0.19 (Rem. Stack: $4.69)
Turn ($0.67): 6♥ 8♠ J♣ K♣
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.43 (Rem. Stack: $4.72), SB Calls $0.43 (Rem. Stack: $4.26)
River ($1.53): 6♥ 8♠ J♣ K♣ 4♣
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.97 (Rem. Stack: $3.75), SB Calls $0.97 (Rem. Stack: $3.29)
Spoiler
SB shows: J♥ Q♥
SB wins: $3.30
Pure spew
Current BR: $258.99
