2024 ELECTION THREAD
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Many millions protested for "BLM". Hundreds of thousands of them rioted as well.
I am on record saying all rioters on Jan 6 should have been shot dead during the riot, or otherwise get the death penalty after the fact. Many didn't even use violence against other human beings but it's irrelevant, trespassing itself is violence.
Your sense of justice is perverted. Mowing down hundreds/thousands of people during the symbolic, peaceful transfer of power is not what the nation needs/needed. The US is a nation where factional sentiment needs to be carefully managed, and this type of escalation would have been incredibly damaging.
And BLM should have been dismantled, it's leaders arrested for terrorism and so on.
No. That’s ridiculous and would probably be unconstitutional. Not even Trump and his FBI thought that was an appropriate recourse.
Problem in your country is no company (afaik) cheerleadered Jan 6 protestors, many major companies did so with BLM.
So what's the biggest threat to society? whoa re the actual domestic enemies incompatible with democracy? very easy for me to answer. Is it for you?
Again you keep talking about utilitarian calculus. BLM’s intention was police reform. Then some idiotic people took it to the level of “defund the police” or “abolish the police”. Some people rioted. We should condemn the rioters and denounce attacks on the police force. In principle though there’s nothing wrong with supporting BLM as a police reform movement. Bernie said himself though that defund the police is stupid. In many cases police actually need more funding.
People lying about the election and undermining democracy is clearly the bigger threat in the long term though, even if we want to make that calculus. And Trump himself has called Jan 6 defendants great patriots and has spoken in support of them. More to the point, people still talk about how the 2020 election was stolen, and Vance himself who is supposed to be a moderate is forced to come out and cuck himself to authoritarianism.
From now on, there will never be an election that Republicans can’t call rigged. And when every election is rigged suddenly there is no point to having them in principle. This is clearly a danger to leading to civil war.
Dipshit current thing leftists just don’t pose the same threat since they are politically self-isolating.
The difference is the ones from Jan 6th went to jail while the BLM ones had most of there charges dropped
This is just another right wing lie. These cases have quietly gone through the justice system with guilty verdicts and pleas. You just don't here about it because the right isn't outraged by these sentences, they aren't releasing albums with and being dangled pardons from a presidential candidate.
Sir, how dare you? Lozen is not a "Trump supporter". He just has no choice but to support Trump because democrats are so much worse, why can't you see that? Not a "Trump supporter"!
Another lie. I have repeatedly said I could not vote for Trump and many posts saying he is not fit for office . No way in hell I could vote for the Dems and their platform either.
Bill Clinton only got 43% and 49% of the popular so it's not like he was just so much better than later Dem candidates at getting votes.
Ross Perot was running in 1992 and got 19% of the vote which why Bill Clinton only got 43% of the vote. He still crushed that election.
1992 B Clinton 43% to Hw's 37%: +6%
1996 B Clinton got 49% to Dole's: 41%: +8%
2000 Gore 48% Bush 48%: 0%
2004 Kerry 48% Bush 51% -3%
2016 H Clinton 48% Trump 46% +2%
2020 Biden 51% Trump 47% +4%
He was clearly so much better than later dem candidates.
Ross Perot was running in 1992 and got 19% of the vote which why Bill Clinton only got 43% of the vote. He still crushed that election.
1992 B Clinton 43% to Hw's 37%: +6%
1996 B Clinton got 49% to Dole's: 41%: +8%
2000 Gore 48% Bush 48%: 0%
2004 Kerry 48% Bush 51% -3%
2016 H Clinton 48% Trump 46% +2%
2000 Biden 51% Trump 47% +4%
He was clearly so much better than later dem candidates.
He was a great president other than the sexual assault payout and alleged rapes . We will not discuss why he was on 26 Epstein flights as well
Exactly - which discredits the whole data. I want to know what exactly does hunting involve
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Ross Perot was running in 1992 and got 19% of the vote which why Bill Clinton only got 43% of the vote. He still crushed that election.
1992 B Clinton 43% to Hw's 37%: +6%
1996 B Clinton got 49% to Dole's: 41%: +8%
2000 Gore 48% Bush 48%: 0%
2004 Kerry 48% Bush 51% -3%
2016 H Clinton 48% Trump 46% +2%
2000 Biden 51% Trump 47% +4%
He was clearly so much better than later dem candidates.
Over half of voters disagreed that he was a good candidate. He also got to run against an unpopular HW after 12 years of failed republican rule and Bob Dole. Hard to make a case he was so much better than candidates after him....maybe ou just like him better.
Another MAGA whack job got sentenced today.
Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme. Jurors found Peters guilty in August for allowing a man to misuse a security card to access the Mesa County election system and for being deceptive about that person’s identity. The man was affiliated with My Pillow chief executive Mike Lindell, a prominent promoter of false claims that voting machines were manipulated to steal the election from former President Donald Trump.
Another MAGA whack job got sentenced today.
Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme. Jurors found Peters guilty in August for allowing a man to misuse a security card to access the Mesa County election system and for being deceptive about that person’s identity. The man was affiliated with My Pillow chief executive Mike Lindell, a prominent promoter of false claims that voting machines were manipulated to steal the election from former Pres
I'm glad crackhead Mike is staying on the radar, I was beginning to worry about him. His star shone so bright and burnt out way too soon.
the MAGA'Ts seem angry today.
33 more days to channel it...then you guys are (even more) meaningless
Another MAGA whack job got sentenced today.
Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme. Jurors found Peters guilty in August for allowing a man to misuse a security card to access the Mesa County election system and for being deceptive about that person’s identity. The man was affiliated with My Pillow chief executive Mike Lindell, a prominent promoter of false claims that voting machines were manipulated to steal the election from former President
Yet another political hit job. Her crime. Exposing the truth about what happened in the 2020 election.
Tina Peters is the Election Clerk from Mesa County, Colorado. She made a copy of her machines’ information before performing the action requested by Griswald, who demanded that all voting machines’s election data should be erased (which is against the law) after the 2020 election.
Ross Perot was running in 1992 and got 19% of the vote which why Bill Clinton only got 43% of the vote. He still crushed that election.
1992 B Clinton 43% to Hw's 37%: +6%
1996 B Clinton got 49% to Dole's: 41%: +8%
2000 Gore 48% Bush 48%: 0%
2004 Kerry 48% Bush 51% -3%
2016 H Clinton 48% Trump 46% +2%
2020 Biden 51% Trump 47% +4%
He was clearly so much better than later dem candidates.
just account Perot at half Dem half republican , but ecriture wants to ecriture
Did you forget to use the "some of my best friends are Jewish" line to avoid racist comments from sounding racist?
I just didn't say anything racist, I just said the antisemitic threat from the left is exceptionally more dangerous than that from the right. I minimized the impact of antisemitic chants from the neonazi right because there is one neonazi for every 100 hamas supporters in the USA
Lol..... "If you count some of the people that voted against Clinton as voting for him, his numbers look good" Great argument! Perot got a ton of votes because people didn't want to vote for Clinton, Bush or Dole. I for one am shocked people don't take you seriously itf.
I just didn't say anything racist, I just said the antisemitic threat from the left is exceptionally more dangerous than that from the right. I minimized the impact of antisemitic chants from the neonazi right because there is one neonazi for every 100 hamas supporters in the USA
Agreed - people underestimate the threats from imaginary dangers and overestimate the dangers from actual nazi groups.
Lol..... "If you count some of the people that voted against Clinton as voting for him, his numbers look good" Great argument! Perot got a ton of votes because people didn't want to vote for Clinton, Bush or Dole. I for one am shocked people don't take you seriously itf.
You are the kind of person that thinks that if someone runs unopposed in a congress seat, it means he is a very charismatic candidate
I just didn't say anything racist, I just said the antisemitic threat from the left is exceptionally more dangerous than that from the right. I minimized the impact of antisemitic chants from the neonazi right because there is one neonazi for every 100 hamas supporters in the USA
You said that ‘Jews will not replace us’ isn’t a dangerous ideology.
But rehashing the facts is pointless. My suggestion would be to move on and avoid similar incidents.
You said that ‘Jews will not replace us’ isn’t a dangerous ideology.
But rehashing the facts is pointless. My suggestion would be to move on and avoid similar incidents.
No I said it wasn't dangerous for jews if a bunch of insignificant, powerless people chanted that, compared with what millions of americans are supporting, the attempted genocide of Israeli Jews if not of worldwide jews.
