[WPT Global] Official Thread

[WPT Global] Official Thread

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15 April 2024 at 09:31 AM
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by WPT Global Alex k

This is strange, do you still get this even with the latest version?

Yes. It's quite likely the screen resolutions being used on your end are better than mines. The maximum mines can go is 1920x1080.

Also, can you confirm the earlier comment about bad beat jackpot. Is this still a thing as I can't see anything on the site about it? Thanks.


by JohnnyJam k

in a 2x 4 hands and you are 10bb deep.

You play on avg with that new structur 10-12 hands. = absolut crapshot structure.

WPT is speedrunning to kill their site.

Most of the edge comes from hu play in spins and with that new structure most of that edge is gone, while keeping the same rake.

Atleast give people the option to play regular spins and reduce the rake for the faster version.

1. Global spins: 6% rake
2. Global flash: 1% rake

or you keep that new structure if you dont want two versions and ma

nah spins already get as little traffic as it is so no sense to split up the volume. instead they should opt for a structure similar to gg where the lower multi's have the fast structure but the higher ones have a slower one


by Wiital k

Hey @Alex,

do you have a guy name Josh working in the company? He reached me, and introduced himself as WPTG VIP manager. 😀

Yes, we do.

by Kick4ss k

Oh true, thanks. My ID is: 201811

Thanks - looking into it now.

by JohnnyJam k

in a 2x 4 hands and you are 10bb deep.

The new structure is experimental, I'll share your feedback with the Poker Room team.

by GPTerminator k

Yes. It's quite likely the screen resolutions being used on your end are better than mines. The maximum mines can go is 1920x1080.

Also, can you confirm the earlier comment about bad beat jackpot. Is this still a thing as I can't see anything on the site about it? Thanks.

It's a high hand jackpot, you can find more details here:


by Kick4ss k

Oh true, thanks. My ID is: 201811

Finally got my acc back. Thank you.


Hey, when Club WPT will start their games?


by Kick4ss k

Finally got my acc back. Thank you.

No problem, sorry for the delay. When I looked at the investigation I could see that it was necessary, but I apologise for how long it took.

by 76offsuit k

Hey, when Club WPT will start their games?

Although I don't work with the new Club WPT Gold, my understanding is that they intend to start operations in early 2025 and their software will be similar to ours.




Hey alex was wondering how is it possible that only on WPTG platform a player playing 58 20 on 6k hands manages to win 30k usd from the regs in 180 hands not by shoving all in preflop or even once coming from behind but by value betting 3rd pair into 4 people correctly and value betting 33 on a k2j96 3 diamonds on the river ? I was not involved on the hands as i do not play on the platform anymore but i still observe the super user situation. Do you endorse super users on the platform or is this problem just out of your hands? Just have any player with a basic knowledge about poker review this guys session yesterday. Be kind and have a look yourself if you want.


by ghindos k

Hey alex was wondering how is it possible that only on WPTG platform a player playing 58 20 on 6k hands manages to win 30k usd from the regs in 180 hands not by shoving all in preflop or even once coming from behind but by value betting 3rd pair into 4 people correctly and value betting 33 on a k2j96 3 diamonds on the river ? I was not involved on the hands as i do not play on the platform anymore but i still observe the super user situation. Do you endorse super users on the platform or is t

So a player with whale stats manage to win 20 buy ins in over 170 hands against some of the best online pros.

Yup thats wpt nowadays, wptalex must be thinking were just bitter customers because we got no more rakeback but i think hes gonna understand theres a reality to deal with here.


by ghindos k

Hey alex was wondering how is it possible that only on WPTG platform a player playing 58 20 on 6k hands manages to win 30k usd from the regs in 180 hands not by shoving all in preflop or even once coming from behind but by value betting 3rd pair into 4 people correctly and value betting 33 on a k2j96 3 diamonds on the river ? I was not involved on the hands as i do not play on the platform anymore but i still observe the super user situation. Do you endorse super users on the platform or is t

Hi,

Do you have footage or screenshot of the hands?


by ghindos k

Hey alex was wondering how is it possible that only on WPTG platform a player playing 58 20 on 6k hands manages to win 30k usd from the regs in 180 hands not by shoving all in preflop or even once coming from behind but by value betting 3rd pair into 4 people correctly and value betting 33 on a k2j96 3 diamonds on the river ? I was not involved on the hands as i do not play on the platform anymore but i still observe the super user situation. Do you endorse super users on the platform or is t

It seems like he's buying in for 310k. Could it be that that some of the other regs buyin massive as well just to cover him and end up getting wrecked deepstacked just by variance? Pure speculation on my part but it should be straightforward for security to check the account.

Also his name in English is 'TheLuckyManIsComing' which would be a very cheeky username 😀


by garnouille k

Hi,

Do you have footage or screenshot of the hands?

Sure i have some hands recorded from the session. I did not record the whole session but saved some hands that are very shady in my opinion. Send me a pm and i can share them.
Anyway this pattern of stats on huge crushers is almost daily at that stake, just take a look at the high stakes tables at any given time there should be a big winner with this stats : 1k to 6k hands playing anywhere between 50-60 vpip and 10-25 pfr.


by _jimbo_ k

It seems like he's buying in for 310k. Could it be that that some of the other regs buyin massive as well just to cover him and end up getting wrecked deepstacked just by variance? Pure speculation on my part but it should be straightforward for security to check the account.

Also his name in English is 'TheLuckyManIsComing' which would be a very cheeky username 😀

Don't think variance can justify value betting second pair on flop into 4 people and 3rd pair on turn into the 2 opponents left and after the river comes and misses them both checking oop so they can bluff.

Also open calling 33 to a 3bet X call on kj2, X X on a 9, and small value bet on a 6 that completes a flush river when your opponent has AQ with the q of the flush.

Also MP limps SB opens 6bb Crusher calls from bb with T6o, opponent squeezes with q9o, flop comes j93 and it goes X X, turn T crusher bets half pot, and on river J he bets pot.

I am for sure out of that stake poker league and might not understand all the hands and the dynamics, but please explain to me all the perfect timing on this plays. I have this hands recorded.
I've seen whales winning this much this fast in my poker career but all the times that happened they either hit hand after hand or manage to win all hands behind, it happens. From my point of view this guy knew exactly what he was doing and it was not a matter of luck.


Please upload the hands somewhere, where we all can download it


Alex,

I have never saw you reply regarding the superuser issue from a few months ago.

You are aware there was at least one chinese superuser that won over 6 digits against regs at 100/200/400?

All regs got refunded or close to it, sure, but why stay silent regarding this?

How can we be sure there's no more superuser like the one that got detected a while ago?








How about this guy, plays crazy bad with 58/20 stats and manage to 26x his first 150$ buyin in 380 hands. Of course he cashed ou the whole 4000$ profit.

Look at how he played that hand and The pro has nut straight + flush draw and manage to split the pot.
Why is it that those guys who are usually almost draw dead on every other site manage to cash out that often on WPT?


by Savz.58 k

Please upload the hands somewhere, where we all can download it

sorry for bad quality


by garnouille k

Alex,

I have never saw you reply regarding the superuser issue from a few months ago.

You are aware there was at least one chinese superuser that won over 6 digits against regs at 100/200/400?

All regs got refunded or close to it, sure, but why stay silent regarding this?

How can we be sure there's no more superuser like the one that got detected a while ago?

I'm actually almost 100% sure that Alex once commented on this and dismissed the superuser scandal as a false allegation.

However, I can no longer find his answer on this, but I have been actively reading the thread since it was created. Maybe someone else still has this memory as well


by ghindos k

On my knowledge about whale's play, there is nothing strange of these 3 hands.


by Thuylinh296 k

On my knowledge about whale's play, there is nothing strange of these 3 hands.


What? These hands are super suspicious. He hit perfect sizing/picked perfect line in every hand vs hand scenario.

Also, I would like to add, that my friend has stopped sitting at the tables with this kind of profiles (~55/20), cos they were crushing him nonstop


by Thuylinh296 k

On my knowledge about whale's play, there is nothing strange of these 3 hands.

I have to agree.

Nothing suspicious here, all those hands are somewhat standard from whale's and anyone that look at data from fish would say this is how you expect a whale to play those hands.

I'd need to see a ton of hands like this to get suspicious about this one, those 3 hands are nothing.


by Zeddu k

I'm actually almost 100% sure that Alex once commented on this and dismissed the superuser scandal as a false allegation.

However, I can no longer find his answer on this, but I have been actively reading the thread since it was created. Maybe someone else still has this memory as well

Did he?

If that's the case, he's lying, there was at least one known (because he got caught) superuser on WPTG/Pokerking.


by garnouille k

I have to agree.

Nothing suspicious here, all those hands are somewhat standard from whale's and anyone that look at data from fish would say this is how you expect a whale to play those hands.

I'd need to see a ton of hands like this to get suspicious about this one, those 3 hands are nothing.

From my point of view this is a skilled pro acting like a whale. He knows exactly what he is doing at all time, do you think he can play 180 hands like this and never be wrong?
Please show me anywhere on your poker history on a reputable platform a player winning after playing hands in this manner for more than 150 hands. I mean for sure a whale might play hands any way he wishes but can he be correct all the time ?

And let's say it's a lucky session, although i highly doubt it, it's a common occurance on the platform for players to perform in this manner almost daily at all stakes.


by garnouille k

Did he?

If that's the case, he's lying, there was at least one known (because he got caught) superuser on WPTG/Pokerking.

Did WPTG ever say it was a superuser? I know refunds were issued but could it have been for collusion or something else? In fairness to Alex I don't think he commented on that specifically.


I showed the discussion to a friend who wins on a big sample at that stakes.
He told me he lost huge to this guy in the last 2-3 sessions and couldn't really explain how, since the lines taken and the showdowns were so awkard. Now he Connects the dots and he's pretty sure he got cheated.


Once again this type of players in the past folded KK on 10 7 2 flop to a small continuation bet when opponent has AA. That hand got reported and the player who had AA got compensated with no clear admission from WPTG that he was a super user just a rumour from someone working at WPTG that they had a superuser problem, so it's a he said she said dilemma, nothing in writing.

Playing pattern where the same you just can't win a pot against them, but that KK vs AA fold was the biggest mistake identified, they know better than calling with T high when you bluff against them, and they lose the stack if they get coolered. This players are doing this for quite some time on the platform and they know how to avoid being caught, having some accounts and money confiscated for sure and WPTG giving back some of the money this players stole from regulars.

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