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Hi Sam, the two biggest issues I believe are a lack of enforcement on your fairplay system, many many winning professionals have somehow been allowed to obtain a VIP tag. Therefore we have tables with 6-8 professionals, and the VIPs are getting destroyed. Below is a list of some of them:
Santafe31911
Porches
Xinpin
Corryblo
Donkorleone
SoWakeMeUp
SunnyFlow
Reikka
crvenazvez
Hajahaja
Sinmiedo
Goldenturtle
RunnerRunher
Gky888
Mbutuu
Chinatiger82
Mr Peace
Manoftheppl
Formameow
Dumdidum
And secondly, the HU rak
Hi Sam, welcome.
To this list I would add
IMMACULATE
Zeitgeist
FaFaMeow
Doggk9
Chankinpla
Brzeska
Are you allowed to say why are you taking Alex's place?
Hi,
X2 to everything said about the restriction of the tables, i see a ton of regs using the last seat reserved for the VIPs... from 18/15 nits to the classic 26/22...
Also, what about this about the 20% RB for starting tables?? Something feels wrong
Hi Sam, the two biggest issues I believe are a lack of enforcement on your fairplay system, many many winning professionals have somehow been allowed to obtain a VIP tag. Therefore we have tables with 6-8 professionals, and the VIPs are getting destroyed. Below is a list of some of them:
Santafe31911
Porches
Xinpin
Corryblo
Donkorleone
SoWakeMeUp
SunnyFlow
Reikka
crvenazvez
Hajahaja
Sinmiedo
Goldenturtle
RunnerRunher
Gky888
Mbutuu
Chinatiger82
Mr Peace
Manoftheppl
Formameow
Dumdidum
And secondly, the HU rak
If you don't mind if I ask you again this matter.
Why you think they have VIP tag? If you look at them through phone, it's wrong. The VIP tag on the phone means "MVP" (highest winning in the current table).
I can see 80-90% on your list getting restricted to the 25- 50-100 tables.
I'll verify it. I never play cash games on WPT. I played a little at a table that had previous action and a reg sitting by himself. Made sure to play a bunch of hands that were raked. I will see Monday if I get any rakeback for starting table.
I didn't get any rakeback for the small amount of HU I played vs a reg. Absolutely $0. Well this confirms that I won't be playing any cash games on WPT. They don't even award you the 40% rb that they advertise. **** that ****.
This needs addressed ASAP
If you don't mind if I ask you again this matter.
Why you think they have VIP tag? If you look at them through phone, it's wrong. The VIP tag on the phone means "MVP" (highest winning in the current table).
I can see 80-90% on your list getting restricted to the 25- 50-100 tables.
I'll give you an example...I see a seat available at 50/100/200cny. I try to sit and get the 'This seat is reserved for a VIP' message, not allowing me to sit. Then literally seconds later someone from my list takes that seat, making it 8/8. So clearly they're tagged as VIP, whilst I'm tagged as professional. Every person on my list has taken that last VIP seat
@Lovezhouye you are not being any helpful in this thread
I'll give you an example...I see a seat available at 50/100/200cny. I try to sit and get the 'This seat is reserved for a VIP' message, not allowing me to sit. Then literally seconds later someone from my list takes that seat, making it 8/8. So clearly they're tagged as VIP, whilst I'm tagged as professional. Every person on my list has taken that last VIP seat
I am sure that some players on your list is same as you.
Some days ago, I messaged to Alex asking about whether there are many levels of restriction or only 1. If there are many levels of restriction, your list is reasonable.
Hi Sam, the two biggest issues I believe are a lack of enforcement on your fairplay system, many many winning professionals have somehow been allowed to obtain a VIP tag. Therefore we have tables with 6-8 professionals, and the VIPs are getting destroyed. Below is a list of some of them:
Santafe31911
Porches
Xinpin
Corryblo
Donkorleone
SoWakeMeUp
SunnyFlow
Reikka
crvenazvez
Hajahaja
Sinmiedo
Goldenturtle
RunnerRunher
Gky888
Mbutuu
Chinatiger82
Mr Peace
Manoftheppl
Formameow
Dumdidum
And secondly, the HU rak
Ok ty, will relay with our security team
I can’t promise changes to rake but I’ll make sure it’s considered
Table starter rakeback is credited weekly (Mondays) if you are missing a credit then you need to reach out to our support who’ll confirm for you, [email]customercare@wptglobal.com[/email]
If you want to share your nickname with me I’ll see what I can do 😀
Ok ty, will relay with our security team
I can’t promise changes to rake but I’ll make sure it’s considered
Please do, our concerns have been completely dismissed in the past, by Alex and security. Fairplay is what sets you apart, and the system is 1000% corrupted.
With regards to rake, just the chance to breakeven would be a start. The current rake structure is unbeatable, makes no sense for pros to start games
Please do, our concerns have been completely dismissed in the past, by Alex and security. Fairplay is what sets you apart, and the system is 1000% corrupted.
With regards to rake, just the chance to breakeven would be a start. The current rake structure is unbeatable, makes no sense for pros to start games
I agree, rake is to high, especially for HU, they need to lower it or at least give some more % for the people starting tables... also, it seems very bad that we lose all the benefits from starting them if i missout one hand and get sittout because of a disconection or something, there should be a higher tolerance before removing the table starter status/benefits imo...
At this point it seems that the system to protect tables is corrupted, most of the time you see 6-7 regs and 1 o 2 recs per table
Hi everyone, I want to raise a serious problem about jackpot. Please look at my picture.
I got 15k8 for straight flush jackpot, but why jackpot -17329? It's about 10%. What is this?
Table starter rakeback is credited weekly (Mondays) if you are missing a credit then you need to reach out to our support who’ll confirm for you, [email]customercare@wptglobal.com[/email]
If you want to share your nickname with me I’ll see what I can do 😀
Appreciated.
My WPT username is the same as username on here.
The issue is we don't have access to HH with taken rake so it's borderline impossible to track this on the player end, and WPT doesn't provide any breakdown of how the rakeback was paid on what date and tables.
Most reg players here have posted advising this feels off, and 1 player (who I quoted in the previous post) doesn't play cash has tested it and waited until Monday passed and received zero rakeback.
If you can request support email me on my WPT registered email the breakdown of dates and tables I can look into this on my end.
Thank you.
I've made this point before and got lip service and nothing got done about it. It likely won't change.
A few % is reasonable. 10% is just greed. Rake on Rake.
I just asked my friend, the 10% rake of the jackpot go to agent pocket, then agent pay back to players. But now we don't get rakeback from agent anymore so why do we keep getting charged this rake?
Appreciated.
My WPT username is the same as username on here.
The issue is we don't have access to HH with taken rake so it's borderline impossible to track this on the player end, and WPT doesn't provide any breakdown of how the rakeback was paid on what date and tables.
Most reg players here have posted advising this feels off, and 1 player (who I quoted in the previous post) doesn't play cash has tested it and waited until Monday passed and received zero rakeback.
If you can request support email
They know this since day one and don't care.
Alex admitted he was aware of this issue, this was submitted after the first week and said we should get rakeback... but they never fixed it.
Classic WPT stuff
Hi,
I will preface this message by saying this is my opinions based on my personal experience. I am going to send the messages between me and wpt's security team so you can reach your own conclusion. Also please let me know if some of the information I provided is inaccurate I am just going off word of mouth for the app games due to me never actually playing on one I can't be fully certain. Also not all these accounts are bots some could possibly be multiaccounting / using huds / notes etc. They are cheating either way and these tools give you a huge advantage against a player pool that doesn't have access to these tools and bypassing kyc.
My opinion:
To be honest I feel like wpt either has a security team of people that don't even know the rules of poker or the bare minimum of poker and there ai system is non existent. Or they are allowing bots to play for personal gain. There possibly other reasons would love to hear it.
Reasons behind my opinion:
- They have a strong kyc process but for players playing on one of there skins / apps eg WePoker / PokerKing Asia they have next to no kyc and can make unlimited accounts there's even yt vids of people using huds and bots on these apps. Also wepoker/PokerKing Asia is advertised on botting sites as one of there main options. On nztpoker one of the most popular botting websites the first 2 apps they advertise are Pokerking and Wepoker which both have access to wptglobal games unless I am mistaken.
- Also on yt shorts AlexScott mentions at the end of them "what this means is we have the safest games anywhere online https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t4IfKmVb2... .why don't botting sites even advertise sites like pokerstars / ggpoker and many of the main actually established websites. So until they add kyc or strengthen there kyc on these apps there's just always going to be bots coming into the games constantly.
- WPT reg locks you preventing you from being able see other tables so it makes it next to impossible to distinguish from bots and legitimate players. Also since players have 0 hand history's or notes this forces you to fully rely on there next to inexistent security team. When people on there app skins games have HUDS , Notes , Hand history's because they don't enforce these rules on them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-DfJ1S... This video is a example of what you need to compete with also the comments are asking how to multicount etc.
- I myself at only 5-10-20 5 reported over 120 bots in around 1-2 months this doesn't include other stakes at all so probably a lot more and some of them where playing 48hours straight after my report before getting banned if they have this so called "ai" catching bots surely it would pick up on bots playing 48 hours+ straight. What makes this ai anticheat even more unbelievable it doesn't even pickup blatant bots like 8 accounts running the same stats with in 1-4% brand new accounts all buying in with the same amount, some of them even have the same profile pictures. If I can pick up these bots before there poker anti cheat system and there full security team with only vpip / pfr buy in amounts etc. What is my rake actually going into, you guys have some of the worst software in poker and one of the worst if not the worst security.
- After reporting around 120 bots I realized it wasn't worth it around $3.5 per reported bot in reward from there "RIP program reward integrity in poker" is just not worth the time.
- They also fired a lot of there staff even though they have all this cheating and botting going on https://www.poker.org/latest-news/overha... . Also never disclosed with anyone not even warning players about these issues or giving awareness to them.
Tips on catching these bots if you are not reg locked.
1. Players with Chinese names means that are most probably playing through one of the before mentioned apps because you can't make Chinese named accounts on wptglobal and also playing only 1 table because you can't multi-table on these apps
2. They normally buy in with 100bbs and only rebuy after losing all of it or left with %20.
3. They are normally brand new accounts with 3000 or less hands.
4. A lot of these accounts have the same stats +-5%. They also play long hours like at least 14 hours. Normally around 28 vpip 22 pfr but adapt slightly sometimes.
I am only sending this publicly because going through [email]security@wptglobal.com[/email] isn't replying to my emails. I tried to contact support through there discord nothing they can help with and said that I have to wait for them to respond . Also there last response was trying to downplay all the effort put into finding these accounts.
"Please understand that each submission undergoes a rigorous internal investigation process—which naturally takes time—and that many of the accounts were also flagged by our own automated algorithms as part of this ongoing review." If they where flagged why didn't the accounts get frozen then, you just kept letting people play against them?.
At this point I just want to know what kind of time frame are effected(including myself) players expected to wait for reimbursement. Do we get reimbursed the full amount the bots took from us or confiscated funds that you could calm to be anything. But I am assuming you didn't let them withdraw because if you ai system flagged them surly you blocked them from being able to withdraw.
In the future I might make a video going fully into this but short on time atm just want to get this out so others don't loose thousands to bots like me and other players have. Looking forward to a proper response.
Link to emails: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1... I inputted random names for the emails
I can confirm all the things bob19123 said above unless 1 thing, they are not the bots, they are real people just change around 10-15 accounts per months.
The reason why they change a lot of accounts is after winning some money, they will be restricted from seeing the tables (yes WPT called it fair system).
And in other skins of WPT, when they withdraw small money, they don't need to do KYC, and normally the money they win before being restricted is less than the money that need to do KYC, it's why they can register and play a lot of accounts every months.
So the solution is "they need to do KYC when you withdraw money", that's all.
Many things in past make me believe that' can believe anything wpt said.
Just win and make money until you can. About bot, i dont actually care, cause i play low stake and bot cant play exploit strategy.
Right now, i want waiting list for table, cause as an player tagged pro, so hard for me to find a table when play in phone.
I played quite a bit at the end 2024. There was always a bunch of action, I dont think I had a single time I logged in and couldnt open 4tables at 5/10/20.
Ive been eyeing the lobby in January and its completely dead? Am I missing something or what happened, I was already restricted before but could still find enough tables to play.
Same for everyone else?
I played quite a bit at the end 2024. There was always a bunch of action, I dont think I had a single time I logged in and couldnt open 4tables at 5/10/20.
Ive been eyeing the lobby in January and its completely dead? Am I missing something or what happened, I was already restricted before but could still find enough tables to play.
Same for everyone else?
Life of a HSP. Battle regs HU and pray a rec sits but it’s more unlikely a rec will sit since there are at least 5+ regs on other tables doing the same thing you just happen to not be able to see
Just played an extremely suspicious hand. I've reported hands like these before and never hear back. Has anyone else had weird hands with this player Paycie?
