Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by jalfrezi k

as the biggest BIBI and Likkud criticiser, even I'm appauald by how much of a bad faith all your posts are against him.

there is a huge discrepancy between what BIBI is saying, and the subtitles and the tweet.

BIBI is not saying that "We own the senate, the congress..."

The interviewer is asking if we are on a collision course with the states and BIBI explains that there is the senate, the congress, and as such America is not a unified block that speaks in one voice.


the rest is also a misrepresentation of the interview, but not as bad as the first claim



this is the level of posts from the people jalfrezi follows and reposts from.

why waste time miss quoting BIBI, let just write death to all jews and make it quicker.


Like I said, if you just assume going in that every tweet Jalfrezi shares is bad faith antisemitic propaganda, you will be correct more often than not.


by 5 south k

Dude knew exactly what he was doing.
I'm not totally sure how right to refuse service laws work but sure sounds like discrimination kicking someone out for wearing a religious symbol.
Oakland can be as progressive as it wants but I'm pretty sure the guy is going to have a civil rights case.
Also I'm sure he'll get an uptick in business if it goes viral.

I am pretty sure Slighted will come in at some point and let us know the shop owner was legally and morally in the right, and the Jew should have just gone to the Jewish place across the street like was being requested.


I think i found a winner:


Victor, you most definitely stand with the moral side of history


da fuq this got to do with me?


by Victor k

da fuq this got to do with me?

There are two sides to this -

one side (most posters here and most of the western world), understands the complexity of the conflict, has criticism towards Israel, but sees this for what it is.

the other side, which is represented here by jalfrezi, trolly and some more, are blatantly posting anti-Semitic s*$t under the false pretense of a stance against genocide.

you are the the only one i still am unsure about his motives.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

this is the level of posts from the people jalfrezi follows and reposts from.

why waste time miss quoting BIBI, let just write death to all jews and make it quicker.

Wildly antisemitic and a little homophobic to boot. Nice find.


that is why I addressed the post to you. to show you who are you standing with and what are most posts from "your side" ITT


by IMBLUEtheONE k

the other side, which is represented here by jalfrezi, trolly and some more, are blatantly posting anti-Semitic s*$t under the false pretense of a stance against genocide.

Cite or ban, dickhead.


does it look like im your employee?


I dont follow that account or repost it.

I dont want to throw jal under the bus bc I have followed and reposted some questionable accounts myself before realizing some of the tell-tale signs when I was new to twitter. part of the problem is that the algo tends to boost people like Adam and some of the others like Khalissee and Suleiman and Pelham. a lot of the worst accounts were manosphere types like Bilzerian and the Tate brothers.

thats why I just follow a lot of actual confirmed Palestinians and Lebanese.


by Trolly McTrollson k

Cite or ban, dickhead.

This is actually hilarious, because you spent 15 years on this forum accusing pretty much everyone that pushed back against radical progressivism antisemites, never providing the slightest evidence. And now you are defending posters who post actually antisemitic propaganda, and get defensive when called out for it.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-offici...

--In other news, it was in an active area Israel had announced to evacuate, but Israel did destroy an apartment complex that had civilians in it causing civilian casualties. They admit their surveillance failed, and they thought it was only being used by militants, and are investigating.


lol at Trolly defending Jal and me. he helped run us both of off UP.


by Victor k

I dont follow that account or repost it.

I dont want to throw jal under the bus bc I have followed and reposted some questionable accounts myself before realizing some of the tell-tale signs when I was new to twitter. part of the problem is that the algo tends to boost people like Adam and some of the others like Khalissee and Suleiman and Pelham. a lot of the worst accounts were manosphere types like Bilzerian and the Tate brothers.

thats why I just follow a lot of actual confirmed Palestinians

so if a poster is a Palestinian or Lebanese, that give his posts an automatic sign of approval for truth?

Moreover, you clearly cherry pick which Palestinians or Lebanese you follow.

Do you follow for instance Samy Gemayel, Serge Daer (I hope I spelled his name correctly) or many many others that are voicing a very different voice about the conflict (up to a full support for Israel).

and what about the hundreds of thousands (and even millions) of Christians Lebanese that fled Lebanon not because of Israel, but because of Hezbollah. do you follow any of them?


by Victor k

lol at Trolly defending Jal and me.

Yeah, don't make up lies and accuse me of that ****, either.


if someone posts a lot of misinformation then obv I dont follow them once I realize it.
Samy Gemayel is a politician so ofc I dont follow him bc almost all politicians are inveterate liars. I cant find the other guy.

the Christians I follow seem to support Hezbollah in driving out the invader.


and do you follow any Israelis (that are not Gideon Levi), if not for nothing, just for balance and to receive a full picture and the "story" from both sides?

I for instance have read most Palestinians scholars, have met and talked personally with many, work with Palestinians and with ex-Lebanese.

i even spend hours at times listening and reading the worst anti-Semitic crazies, just for good measure.


yes I follow plenty of them. even a few liberal Zionists lol.


do you guys think Israel has some big action plans immediately after the elections if Trump wins, or nothing much should change at least in the short term no matter who the winner is?


Apologies to people here for posting from that AdameMedia account. I don't follow it and I don't know how it came to my TL. Mods feel free to delete that post.


by Luciom k

do you guys think Israel has some big action plans immediately after the elections if Trump wins, or nothing much should change at least in the short term no matter who the winner is?

I think it's pretty clear Israel does whatever it thinks it has to. It's not going to let US politics be a deciding factor in its existence.
Trump is going to be more volatile if you don't know how to manage him but I doubt Israel is very worried.
At the end of the day, the president is fairly inconsequential. Israel really dgaf.


by jalfrezi k

Oh wow, didn't expect you to argue that the dude with the funny mustache was right and the Jews really are pulling the strings in the US. Doesn't that feel just a little icky?

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