GGPoker killing the HS poker dream?

And with all the piles of money you make doing this, you can expand into live avenues and open a poker theamed hotel.

the membership fee type of platform has been suggested many times... it will never exist and it will never work

Say it ain't so Joe.

ClubWPT has been doing it for a while. They target recs, obviously, but a similar concept for HS players isn’t too far-fetched.

Why do you think it would never work?

Big games going private at the expense of public games has been an ongoing trend for a while. I think that’s why Joey refers to it as natural evolution of the games.

this is pure comedy.

Is this an overreaction? You're automatically assuming the only use case is "big winner, rejected from joining big game".

Maybe it's just "likes to abuse and swear at other players, rejected from big game" or "game integrity concerns, rejected from big game" or "never heard of this dude and want to make sure its not money laundering, rejected from big game" or "this guy tanks for 30 seconds on every decision, rejected from big game". All seem like at least semi-reasonable considerations to me. If you think to the very distant past, every player had to be manually approved by Lee Jones to play the 100-200 LHE game on PokerStars at one time.

Show an example of someone who had no reason to be rejected other than winning too much, and I'll join in at least considering getting upset.

This is pretty consistently the opinion of people that actually play this pool.

Have you ever played these games or seen them up close?

SWC Poker has Worldwide Pool, Crypto, BBJ, HU tables, HSNL, HSPLO, HS Mixed games and progressive rakeback!

Come one Come all!

EDIT: Seriously i dont know why this site isnt as popular nowadays its like old school pokerstars or full tilt with all the games and tables...anyways hopefully it gets bigger i need some more mixed game action!

I think its fair to see how the idea develops (I guess players don't have a choice) and its possible that an invite only system can be fine if its fair to everyone.
The problem is its seems there's not much way to distinguish online players other than how much they won or lost. And if the standard to be allowed in the private online games is 'not have been an ass b4 in poker chats' a lot of players would pass that bar that it feels like the 'private' game would almost not have a meaningfully different player pool.
Live games - who knows who and is friends with who is mostly what gets you into good games. It doesn't have the problem of entry requirements.

So you believe that the most profitable use is not the reason they are doing it? ROTFLOL

Yeah lets all join the club poker app which is an anonymised crypto site with little to no security. I feel like the new motto for these sites should be, "Come Play With the bots".

at least we still got a chat box

EDIT: and its not a club poker app its a legit site...well as legit as coinpoker and other crypto sites like it.

I don't "believe" anything. I'd like to see how they use it before lighting my torch and grabbing my pitchfork.

I can’t imagine how will they run those games without the pros? As i watch ratio is like 5 pro 1 fish always and game stops as soon as fish goes busto

it's mostly true, and GG recently have actually been pretty good at removing cheaters.

it's HS twitter larps that like to say online poker is only cheaters

according to pokerscout swc has 105 players online right now compared to 895 on coinpoker
so doubt there is enough action

If you think he's wrong then please share evidence to the contrary.

The HS cash game community has put in a lot of effort to help police the games from bad actors on the major public sites over the last several years. The bottleneck from the games being even cleaner much faster is often the sites themselves. Game integrity issues are much more of an issue at smaller sites and app clubs which lack the proper resources and experienced personel and at lower stakes where the pool of players is much larger.

Why is the action on Stars so dead? Is it purely because of all the regulations/restrictions with certain countries so the fun players can't play there? Even 500z completely dried up, bring back the OTB days

Yes I'd be willing to lose 50k but they want my shoe size, crypto transactions, my birth certificate and a selfie with me written on it saying "more rake is better"

I agree with everything you said where I highlighted. But I don't think you are on the same page. This is very different from getting verified by "Lee Jones" when in the PS glory days. FYI, I am a huge fan of integrating the process of vetting each player that plays VIP games thoroughly, as stars would have done during the glory days. This isn't the case where anyone who is interested in playing $X/Y stake and would have to apply to the the relevant department of the operator to get vetted and approved. This is the case where GG is "empowering" the owners of clubGG EXCLUSIVITY to run VIP games at their discretion (that is what I gathered from reading those emails).

Also, considering how GG never conveyed how PVI is calculated, and how fast and loose they were with banning winning players (in the past) without having to explain themselves, I don't think invites to the VIP games will be based on objective criteria, but rather at the "host's" discretion.

I know there are a bunch of fellas with 300m+ samples in their database that you use for MDA. Could one of you please so kindly show us (1) ratio of regs:recs in that sample; and (2) the rake paid by "regs" and "recs" respectively. If anyone ever propose why operators should care about "regs", we can direct them to this.

they can also make a public 25/50 or whatever stake they want to go private right?

If the recs are worried about cheating or bots then thats somethign no poker site can really say that "we are making games private, to make sure no cheatign goes on at higher stakes"

at the least U hipe they have public bigger stakes table as well if that spossible

5/5-10/25 live **** reg thank you very much.

and I know exactly what I'm talking about. Most pros/regs poison their own games/pools and have no idea why bad players play.
They seriously want poker to purely be a study competition and people who are worse than them that want to have fun just have to show up and give them money.
If these geniuses were halfway intelligent instead of just good at study and regurgitation they'd realize these bad players are their CUSTOMERS and treat them as such.

But yea I'm the clueless one.

The sad thing is it's not even rocket science.Give people value for their money and they come back. Simple.

lmao@ pretending in 2024 these games aren't filled with collusion and rta. And it's only going to get worse.

Poker players who only think of the short term cry when sites do the same thing.
These sites are running a business. They're bringing bad players to the site. At least they're providing a service instead of being total parasites. Maybe it's a good business decisions and maybe it's a bad for their own bottom line. Time will tell. But they don't owe anyone a living.

Bottom line- if you want sites not to do something you need to get them to think it's going to hurt their bottom line. That's all they care about.

You're assuming the GG high stakes games are the same as 2/5+ live games drying up because of live regs acting like predatory, nitty **** wits.

Any evidence of this other than "I reckon"?