Israel/Palestine thread
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theres plenty of actual first hand accounts from Palestinians and observers like Rachel Corrie that seem to agree with Ariel.
So i hope that Trump now ends the non-sense of "east jerusalem", Jerusalem must be fully Israeli with no ifs and buts
Meh. Billions of people in the world feel East Jerusalem (and really all of Jerusalem) should be under Muslim control for supernatural reasons, so you cant really appeal to rationality. If Israel could reach a compromise where it was just East Jerusalem and Muslims would be satisfied with this (highly unlikely) that would be a pretty big win.
Except for the super right wing Orthodox, who have their own non rational super-natural motivations, pretty much all of Israeli society recognizes this.
Twilight thoughts – why does every communist party I read about denounces Israel? What is in the communist indoctrination that is synonyms with anti-Israel agenda?
Twilight thoughts – why is every communist party I read about denounces Israel? What is in the communist indoctrination that is synonyms with anti-Israel agenda?
I think Israel/Palestine is more an issue where communist countries can get the global south on their side for reasons that have nothing to do with private property ownership.
Twilight thoughts – why does every communist party I read about denounces Israel? What is in the communist indoctrination that is synonyms with anti-Israel agenda?
Because Israel is synonymous with american capitalism and they use that to attack capitalism and the west in general, as it's a weaker spot given the propaganda worked against Israel about the purported genocide and so on.
I think Israel/Palestine is more an issue where communist countries can get the global south on their side for reasons that have nothing to do with private property ownership.
Agree, but that doesn't explain the American and European and even Israeli communist parties, all holding a very strong anti-Israel stance.
communists are pretty big on equal rights. its like their thing.
they are pretty big on the equal sharing of misery
I'm a Kibbutz member, the only real communist experiment in history.
Unlike all other "communist", we tried to PRACTISE WHAT YOU PREACH (and now I can attest that this is a failing system that doesn't work).
Equal rights? Communist? That is such a good joke, even Steven Wright would have been jealous.
can I change my comedian to Mitch Hedberg?
I'm a Kibbutz member, the only real communist experiment in history.
Unlike all other "communist", we tried to PRACTISE WHAT YOU PREACH (and now I can attest that this is a failing system that doesn't work).
Equal rights? Communist? That is such a good joke, even Steven Wright would have been jealous.
Are you currently a kibbutz member? I'm the north?
Meh. Billions of people in the world feel East Jerusalem (and really all of Jerusalem) should be under Muslim control for supernatural reasons, so you cant really appeal to rationality. If Israel could reach a compromise where it was just East Jerusalem and Muslims would be satisfied with this (highly unlikely) that would be a pretty big win.
Except for the super right wing Orthodox, who have their own non rational super-natural motivations, pretty much all of Israeli society recognizes this.
I do feel the only solution that will satisfy both sides is Israel completely giving up the west bank but having an undivided Jerusalem as their capital recognized by the world
But I doubt the Palestinians would ever accept that
Twilight thoughts – why does every communist party I read about denounces Israel? What is in the communist indoctrination that is synonyms with anti-Israel agenda?
Much of the armaments for the 1948 war came from Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union recognized Israel pretty much instantly.
Your more principled reds don't like ethnic cleansing and colonialism.
Much of the armaments for the 1948 war came from Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union recognized Israel pretty much instantly.
Your more principled reds don't like ethnic cleansing and colonialism.
I was talking about current day communists.
And you out did Victor with the principled reds joke
I'm a Kibbutz member, the only real communist experiment in history.
Unlike all other "communist", we tried to PRACTISE WHAT YOU PREACH (and now I can attest that this is a failing system that doesn't work).
Equal rights? Communist? That is such a good joke, even Steven Wright would have been jealous.
Would be curious to know more about this. What are some of the inherent flaws that can't be fixed? People not pulling their weight still getting carried?
