2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by Luciom k

No he mentions congress is required more than once, and no he isn't going to do a full ban on it given he asks for congress to pass a full ban on transition for minors, but not for adults.

so the part about him directing all federal agencies to cease any gender treatment at any age, that has nothing to do with a desire to prevent transition at any age? sure bud.

No transition is medically necessary definitionally as being trans isn't a medical condition, and no other medical condition REQUIRES transitioning.

Gender dysphoria doesn’t require transitioning either. Only on certain cases.


by checkraisdraw k

so the part about him directing all federal agencies to cease any gender treatment at any age, that has nothing to do with a desire to prevent transition at any age? sure bud.

Gender dysphoria doesn’t require transitioning either. Only on certain cases.

The part about him directing all federal agencies to cease promoting transition and federal money not to be spent on transition at any age, is about our side not being willing to subsidize personal consumption choices in that sector.

People who desire elective cosmetic surgeries, or taking drugs to modify their bodies should be free to do so if adults, with their own money.


by Luciom k

What do you think blood, in bloodbath, when used to refer to an economic catastrophe that is alleged to happen, means? actual physical blood?

Btw i have been told he actually didn't even say the exact phrase verbatim...

It looks like the phrase was "they are poisoning the blood of the country", and the "they" is the people who let illegals in (democrats), which changes the meaning in non subtle ways.

you could just look it up and see that he is talking about illegal immigrants. why are you trying to gaslight? what is the reason?

“They let — I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country. When they do that, we got a lot of work to do. They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” Trump told the crowd at a rally in New Hampshire. “That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130...

It’s even more clear from the quote that he is talking about them being genetically inferior people! You are just a serial gaslighter on the issue of Trump, because you like his fascistic rhetoric.


by Luciom k

What do you think blood, in bloodbath, when used to refer to an economic catastrophe that is alleged to happen, means? actual physical blood?

Btw i have been told he actually didn't even say the exact phrase verbatim...

It looks like the phrase was "they are poisoning the blood of the country", and the "they" is the people who let illegals in (democrats), which changes the meaning in non subtle ways.

Luciom you know exactly what you are doing and you are an horrible person which 100% should be banned from this forum (I've been told so )



by checkraisdraw k

you could just look it up and see that he is talking about illegal immigrants. why are you trying to gaslight? what is the reason?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130...

It’s even more clear from the quote that he is talking about them being genetically inferior people! You are just a serial gaslighter on the issue of Trump, because you like his fascistic rhetoric.

Yes he is talking about illegal immigrants being HOW democrats (the THEY in THEY LET IN) are poisoning the blood of the country.

There is no genetical implication at all and as usual you guys see ghosts.

I love rethoric that describes in detail how horrific some leftist policies are for western countries because i agree. And no, it is not fascist at all to be against illegal immigration.


by weeeez k

Luciom you know exactly what you are doing and you are an horrible person which 100% should be banned from this forum (I've been told so )

I should be banned because i got linked a video which checkraisedraw found the transcript of as well which confirmed what i wrote? i agree this tweet is different from the video


by Luciom k

I should be banned because i got linked a video which checkraisedraw found the transcript of as well which confirmed what i wrote? i agree this tweet is different from the video

The post I quoted from you was posted before checkraise post.
Please can you once in your life stop the bullshitiing?


by Luciom k

Yes he is talking about illegal immigrants being HOW democrats (the THEY in THEY LET IN) are poisoning the blood of the country.

There is no genetical implication at all and as usual you guys see ghosts.

I love rethoric that describes in detail how horrific some leftist policies are for western countries because i agree. And no, it is not fascist at all to be against illegal immigration.

“That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

The “they” he’s talking about are illegal immigrants.

Brother what do you think poisoning the blood means if it has nothing to do with genetics? You are gaslighting so hard right now.


by Luciom k

Trump is going allin against trans activism

https://x.com/SwipeWright/status/1854463...

1) Revoke Biden EOs regarding trans issues
2 Ban all federal agencies from promoting gender or sex transition at any age
3) Ban on federal money being used for all gender affirming care
4) ban on gender affirming surgery for minors nationwide
5) promotion of class action lawsuits against doctors who performed gender surgeries on minors
6) DoJ will investigate big pharma and hospitals networks about possibl

The video didn't say anything about class actions. I don't even know what it would mean to say that the government would "promote" class action lawsuits. Even if individual cases were viable, there is no way the requirements for a class action could be satisfied imo.


Luciom: It’s not about genes.

Trump: We’ve got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.

“How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,” he told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/07...


by checkraisdraw k

“That’s what they’ve done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just to three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world.”

The “they” he’s talking about are illegal immigrants.

Brother what do you think poisoning the blood means if it has nothing to do with genetics? You are gaslighting so hard right now.

Man SERIOUSLY, it's like saying "they are cancer" or "the ruin the soul of our nation" . What has poison and blood to do with genetics??


by Rococo k

The video didn't say anything about class actions. I don't even know what it would mean to say that the government would "promote" class action lawsuits. Even if individual cases were viable, there is no way the requirements for a class action could be satisfied imo.

I might have understood that wrong, what did he mean then with point 5) about promoting suing doctors and the like?

EDIT: he said "support the creation of a right of action" , what does it mean then?


by checkraisdraw k

Luciom: It’s not about genes.

Trump: We’ve got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/07...

by Luciom k

Man SERIOUSLY, it's like saying "they are cancer" or "the ruin the soul of our nation" . What has poison and blood to do with genetics??

lol


by checkraisdraw k

lol

So wait a sec, he uses the actual genetic reference in other occasions, and that's why when he doesn't use it , it's genetics anyway? wtf?


by Luciom k

I might have understood that wrong, what did he mean then with point 5) about promoting suing doctors and the like?

I don't know exactly what he meant. He probably doesn't either. But he didn't say anything about class actions, and I don't see how he possibly could have been talking about class actions.


by Rococo k

I don't know exactly what he meant. But he didn't say anything about class actions, and I don't see how he possibly could have been talking about class actions.

my bad then i thought he meant stuff like the gvmnt will help do class actions or something. Might have been because he said "right of action"


by Luciom k

So wait a sec, he uses the actual genetic reference in other occasions, and that's why when he doesn't use it , it's genetics anyway? wtf?

lmao I think I’ll let you have the last word on this one bud, this is just top tier level bad faith.


by coordi k

Dems have a propaganda problem. They are the party of division and hate despite the fact its just them pointing out that Trump spreads fascist rhetoric and that his base eats it up. Pretty self explanatory stuff.

No, too many Dems spend all their time at the podium talking about **** that doesn't matter to 99% of the population.

At least Bernie Sanders went hard in the paint for free ponies, which everybody can get on board with. If Bernie ever talked about cutting off your dick to spite your bigoted mother, I don't remember it. He may have, but it wasn't his primary focus. Bernie was all about the dolla dolla bills, y'all. He probably would've won any of the last three elections.

ANY time spent on camera talking about paying for prisoner sex changes to "affirm their gender identity" is too much time. Patronizing minorities by saying the "system" is the thing preventing them from realizing their potential is the real racism. That's what you guys don't seem to understand. Donald Trump is up there acting like a clown, but he's at least self aware and plays it up. Dems are up there with clown makeup up on and call people racist/sexist/____phobic when they point it out.

If you spend the rest of your time bitching and moaning about how mean the deplorables are being, that's time not spent explaining what, specifically, you'll do for your supporters. You can tell someone until you're blue in the face that Donald Trump is a big meanie who makes up stories about immigrants eating family pets, but in doing so you're insinuating that those people aren't smart enough to figure that out on their own, and you still haven't explained what your own plan is for making a bowl of soup at Panera not cost $14 if you pick it up, and $34 if you get it delivered.

Just look at how much coverage the election received in the last 2 days where the focus was almost entirely on the various groups of people and how they failed other groups of people. Men hate women. Stupid Latinos voted to deport themselves. Black men voted against a black woman. Everyone hates LGBT. Sweet baby Jesus, do you not hear yourselves?! The alleged party of equality and inclusivity sure wants to make it clear which social bucket everyone belongs in.

Identity politics is the worst, and dems continue to double and triple down on it at every turn. You brought this on yourselves and lost what should've been an unwinnable election for a man that checks about 342 of the boxes which you claimed would make him unelectable. Don't look at the minorities for answers, look in the mirror.

Millions of us deplorables stayed home because they couldn't justify pulling a lever for the obnoxious orange buffoon, and your candidate was a perfectly nice lady with no real flaws beyond not pushing back on the woke garbage they put in her teleprompter. How did you **** this up?


I reckon it'll turn out to be somewhere in the middle of AMERICAN DICTATOR the lefties are saying will happen and PROJECT 2025 LET'S GO! the righties are saying will happen

That's what my heart is saying, but my head? I ****ing love drama and chaos so now Trump has won I hope he goes batshit crazy for the lols

Does that make me a terrible person? Definitely. Do I care? Absolutely not. 😃


by weeeez k

I'm surprised how good biden speech was.
I guess he has some bad days and some good ones?
Very articulate and love the calm approach.

Maga's must not understand how he's so calm, they must think it's a trap and at any moment he's gonna transform in some sort of lizard abomination to get them.

He sounded giddy

I think he is excited that his legacy is that he's the only person to ever beat Trump


by Inso0 k

No, too many Dems spend all their time at the podium talking about **** that doesn't matter to 99% of the population.

At least Bernie Sanders went hard in the paint for free ponies, which everybody can get on board with. If Bernie ever talked about cutting off your dick to spite your bigoted mother, I don't remember it. He may have, but it wasn't his primary focus. Bernie was all about the dolla dolla bills, y'all. He probably would've won any of the last three elections.

ANY time spent on c

Yeah man. I looked in the mirror and I don't feel bad for holding the opinion that Identity politics isn't somehow more offensive than divisive and hateful rhetoric. Can identity politics be annoying? Yes. Can the fringe take it too far? Yes.

There is a massive difference between fringe lefties being annoying and Trump saying verbatim rhetoric from Nazi propaganda to instill fear and hate. I don't give a **** what is happening on the fringe. Your base is buying off on or overlooking Nazi rhetoric from the top

But again, you've clearly drank the tea. You eat up the propaganda. You buy in.


by Luciom k

Topic is and was how bad illegal immigration is for the country to the point of using a very heavy-loaded negative metaphor to describe it.

Approx one third of americans in that poll agreed it's terrible ("poisonous for the blood of the country"). Reasonably, someone asked what actually people thought that expression meant and i can't answer for everyone.

I said for me, and i suppose enough other people, it can also mean that a widespread violation of the rule of law is seen as toxic.

You said that

Right, and I’m saying you smuggled in the shoplifting stuff and changed the focus from immigrants to those who allow it, which isn’t what you and I were talking about. I was responding to the comment below where you’re attempting to justify the poisoning of the blood phrase by talking specifically about how illegal immigrants embody that as a symbol of rule violation. You weren’t talking about the breakdown of law generally, just how that phrase relates to immigrants.

by Luciom k

The way it works is that entering illegally vs entering legally selects for different groups of people, different talents, different attitudes and so on.

So it's not the same people even if they come from the same country.

And it doesn't have much to do with DNA either, at least not necessarily.

Also, the fact ITSELF of having a widespread violation of rules , of not enforceing rules, *can poison the blood of your country*, imagine that! that could mean that even if the totality of illegals were p


by Inso0 k

No, too many Dems spend all their time at the podium talking about **** that doesn't matter to 99% of the population.

At least Bernie Sanders went hard in the paint for free ponies, which everybody can get on board with. If Bernie ever talked about cutting off your dick to spite your bigoted mother, I don't remember it. He may have, but it wasn't his primary focus. Bernie was all about the dolla dolla bills, y'all. He probably would've won any of the last three elections.

ANY time spent on c

It seems like you’re the one cutting off your dick to spite your mom. And the one obsessed with identity politics. I can’t think of people getting more erect about trans topics than conservatives. Luciom proudly posted in here about Trump’s first concrete plan he will implement and it’s all about trans people. Meanwhile can’t remember a single time on the campaign a democrat talked about trans people.

You are just attacking ghosts and strawmen with this whole thing. It honestly reads like a total NPC who has been programmed with regarded talking points.


Anyone know when CNN will certify the popular vote?


I am not sure it is the first concrete plan by Trump but it's a list of verifiable claims (in the sense that we can then check if that happens or not) and specific policy choices about a topic that matters to some of us and that we discussed in this forum a lot .

As for "they didn't talk about trans issues on the campaign trail"...

Well they understood it was a massive liability so they tried to avoid the topic, but Harris got caught in the middle with the fox news interview attacking her for the prison trans issues thing, and NBC attacking her because she didn't commit enough for transgender rights.

But all of this happened because democrats for years decided to politicize trans issues, a topic that shouldn't even register on the political radar.

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