Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
Gimme a hundred dollars worth!
MAGA King the day before the election: I will protect women whether they like it or not
MAGA bros after the election: your body my choice
y’all Qaida really taking the mask off is my prediction
Millions of people died of covid, many of them elderly or disabled. I have friends whose parents died of covid. What an insane and immoral take.
Virtually all “died of Covid” were obese, elderly, diabetic, high blood pressure, etc etc. All Covid did was push their co-morbidities over the finish line, just like the flu does every year for that same patient population.
Virtually all “died of Covid” were obese, elderly, diabetic, high blood pressure, etc etc. All Covid did was push their co-morbidities over the finish line, just like the flu does every year for that same patient population.
Don't make light of the flu either.
We've lost a lot of good people to the flu. Show some ****ing respect.
Virtually all “died of Covid” were obese, elderly, diabetic, high blood pressure, etc etc. All Covid did was push their co-morbidities over the finish line, just like the flu does every year for that same patient population.
They have been playing this game of counting a life interrupted a little before it would have ended anyway as a death as if it was anything like a car accident or even a child death (or a fentanyl death of a 40y old).
"a life is a life" is one of the most monstrous "statistical lies" ever
They have been playing this game of counting a life interrupted a little before it would have ended anyway as a death as if it was anything like a car accident or even a child death (or a fentanyl death of a 40y old).
"a life is a life" is one of the most monstrous "statistical lies" ever
Idk how this is relevant to the discussion, can you tell me where in my post I made these arguments?
The Trumpapocalypse is here (again).
Not surprising that the same type of people who fear monger over climate change and are terrified of catching a cold, are the same ones wetting their pants over another Trump presidency.
Some people have to have something to be terrified about. It defines their existence.
Said without a hint of irony.
They have been playing this game of counting a life interrupted a little before it would have ended anyway as a death as if it was anything like a car accident or even a child death (or a fentanyl death of a 40y old).
"a life is a life" is one of the most monstrous "statistical lies" ever
Come on dude 2 of the guys I know that died(twins one was a neighbor of my best friend) were def seriously overweight lol but they were only 40ish/42iirc. They were likely to die younger than most but not imminently ffs. One was in a coma for months then when he came out of it never able to speak again--his brother had already died and they never told him for fear he'd lose all hope--he died anyway.
The guy I know who was on a vent/near death for a couple months is a big boy too has apparently(was closer with him when we were younger) had some lasting effects but he's back to work/travel etc. Living mostly normal if fb pics are any guide and he's mid50s. I imagine he'll be around for years.
They have been playing this game of counting a life interrupted a little before it would have ended anyway as a death as if it was anything like a car accident or even a child death (or a fentanyl death of a 40y old).
"a life is a life" is one of the most monstrous "statistical lies" ever
Like many things in our complex world, people attribute to lies what they simply don't understand, in this case you're incomprehension of excess death statistics.
Like many things in our complex world, people attribute to lies what they simply don't understand, in this case you're incomprehension of excess death statistics.
I know it's a lie because fentanyl causes more QALY losses than covid did in the USA per year yet the reaction to that is a minimal fraction to what the reaction to covid does, so it's intentional to use "deaths" instead of QALY
Covid obviously had a reach that fentanyl doesn't, though that's not to downplay the danger of fentanyl.
Covid obviously had a reach that fentanyl doesn't, though that's not to downplay the danger of fentanyl.
More concentrated damage is worse obviously. Unless it was never about the overall loss of life but the individual fear of maybe risking something personally (or family-wise) for people that usually think they will live to 90+ almost guaranteed.
Luciom: those who died from covid were gonna die early anyway so **** em
Also Luciom: how dare you call me a sociopath
Luciom doesn't seem to get, or pretends to not get that "damage" from choices people make is not the same as "damage" inflicted upon them through no choice of their own. We had the same discussion about smoking vs climate change, now it's about fent. Fent doesn't kill people who don't choose to take fent or drugs that might be cut with fent. You don't get to choose whether someone who has Covid sneezes all over you or whatever. Smoking doesn't affect people who choose to not smoke, now that it's banned indoors in most places anyway. Climate change affects everyone.
RFK, Jr. with the help of others like Senator Paul will be exposing them. They banned the medications and protocols that were working and being done by actual doctors in the field with real patients like Dr. Malone (not tv political establishment doctors) but these doctors got banned off social media for "false information". It was almost as if they wanted more ppl to die so they can scare everyong into dropping off their votes for president in a local neighborhood drop box (how'd that go?).
Dr. Fauci's protocol of putting them all on respirators, according to many medical experts (who've also been banned from social media of course), is what contributed to more deaths. And how did that injection and all those boosters work out? Did it "stop the apread" or was I right with my statements about it when it was first being rolled out?
Luciom: those who died from covid were gonna die early anyway so **** em
Also Luciom: how dare you call me a sociopath
nope, those who died from covid were gonna to die soon anyway in most cases, so let's stop counting them as if it was the same as car accidents or fentanyl deaths or deaths in a war and so on
RFK, Jr. with the help of others like Senator Paul will be exposing them. They banned the medications and protocols that were working and being done by actual doctors in the field with real patients like Dr. Malone (not tv political establishment doctors) but these doctors got banned off social media for "false information". It was almost as if they wanted more ppl to die so they can scare everyong into dropping off their votes for president in a local neighborhood drop box (how'd that go?).
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Wild stuff. Keep us updated.
Luciom doesn't seem to get, or pretends to not get that "damage" from choices people make is not the same as "damage" inflicted upon them through no choice of their own. We had the same discussion about smoking vs climate change, now it's about fent. Fent doesn't kill people who don't choose to take fent or drugs that might be cut with fent. You don't get to choose whether someone who has Covid sneezes all over you or whatever. Smoking doesn't affect people who choose to not smoke, now that it's
I get it, fentanyl crisis though isn't voluntary suicide. Vast majority goot hooked to opioids by a large scale well documented massive fraud by a specific company and many complacent doctors.
And fentanyl is available only because of dereliction of duty of the government in dealing with it and/or as a form of attack by China to america (depending which versions of the story you want to believe more). Unlike most other drugs there isn't much money to make in selling something that actually rapidly kills your customers.
I get it, fentanyl crisis though isn't voluntary suicide. Vast majority goot hooked to opioids by a large scale well documented massive fraud by a specific company and many complacent doctors.
And fentanyl is available only because of dereliction of duty of the government in dealing with it and/or as a form of attack by China to america (depending which versions of the story you want to believe more). Unlike most other drugs there isn't much money to make in selling something that actually rapidl
The Mexican cartels were making a killing (no pun intended) on fent up until a little while ago. Clearly there is a fair bit of money to be made even with the high fatality rate. I think most of the profits are from cutting other drugs with fent rather than just selling pure fent though.
You said I said “a life is a life”
just because something caused millions of deaths doesn’t mean “a life is a life”.
if it only effected people 1 second away from death like you are trying to make it out to be, then sure, but that’s just not true. there were plenty of people that had decades taken off their life because of covid.
a better argument is the one you have used before, caution should have been apportioned to risk factors and we could have figured out ways to pay the elderly and obese to stay home, even if people consider that “unfair” to reward obesity, the rest would have been able to live life as a trade off.
You said I said “a life is a life”
just because something caused millions of deaths doesn’t mean “a life is a life”.
if it only effected people 1 second away from death like you are trying to make it out to be, then sure, but that’s just not true. there were plenty of people that had decades taken off their life because of covid.
a better argument is the one you have used before, caution should have been apportioned to risk factors and we could have figured out ways to pay the elderly and obese to
No there wasn't PLENTY of such people who died of COVID, no. In several European countries there was not a single excess death under 40 for example.
And mortality even in the USA went back to... 2007 rates, IE rates that are fully compatible with absolutely normal life with absolutely nothing to be worried about.
The way the thing for described is as if it was actually a problem, like the worst year in since WW2 by a large margin, which definitely wasn't, not even close.
Worst global pandemic in 100 years and world population grows? More americans eligible to vote in 2024 vs 2020 after "millions of deaths"? Gotta be kidding me.
Your side describes it as if one every 20 normal health working age people dropped dead. Instead it was far less than what fentanyl does every year and which itself can be disregarded and everyone else keeps living fine anyway
