Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by campfirewest k

What's wrong with memes? This is the internet we are on here.

Memes consistently get reported and inflame the thread. They don’t work well with this subject matter, and I’ve asked that at minimum they not be posted as standalone comments.


by Crossnerd k

Memes consistently get reported and inflame the thread. They don’t work well with this subject matter, and I’ve asked that at minimum they not be posted as standalone comments.

Who is reporting memes? I think this is the problem right there. People are way to fragile.


not me, I dont report posts. not even death threats.


by mongidig k

Who is reporting memes? I think this is the problem right there. People are way to fragile.

i can assure that the side that is reporting memes or post are overwhelmingly on the same side of the Israel/Palestinian debate as you and its not even close..

I have never reported anything .


by Crossnerd k

Stop with the meming. We’ve been over this.

I’ve never seen this rule. When did this one appear on the list or was it always there and I’ve forgotten about it?


Brian J has to be having the time of his life reading this thread and seeing these memes.


by LtUaE42 k

So, Hamas supporters, other than the destruction of Israel, what do you think it will take for Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran to agree to a permanent peace with Israel?

A society in which people who are not Jewish are allowed to walk and drive on the same street as those who are.

A society in which a ratio of 1900ish building permits aren’t given to Jews for every 1 given to Palestinians.

A society in which minorities are not segregated to closed and militarily controlled quarters, which keep shrinking due to illegal settlements with every turn of the calendar.

A society in which trade is encouraged, not blocked and sanctioned.

A society in which leaders of the majority do not openly and publicly shame, demonize and dehumanize the minority.

A society that is humane, respectful, and most of all EQUAL.

A society that is not apartheid.

I have a feeling that might help.


Or wait, that would still technically mean the destruction of Israel.

So, shrug I guess? We’ll just have to let America Germany and UK keep arming Israel to the teeth until the very last non-Jewish human being is wiped from its existence.


Israel is going nowhere. Get used to it


lol imagine dunking the football about an apartheid state on trial for genocide and war crimes. ya you really showed him!


by mongidig k

Gaza was a fairly nice place to live before Oct 7th.

Interesting take.



by Victor k

lol imagine dunking the football about an apartheid state on trial for genocide and war crimes. ya you really showed him!

I sincerely apologize for pointing out the root causes of a decades long struggle, and for thinking that having an objective look at those causes may be a long term solution to the problems the area is ridden with.

Let stick to repeatedly posting news reports of the latest warcrimes thereby glorifying the very thing that got us here in the first place instead.


by gotwoot k

A society in which people who are not Jewish are allowed to walk and drive on the same street as those who are.

A society in which a ratio of 1900ish building permits aren’t given to Jews for every 1 given to Palestinians.

A society in which minorities are not segregated to closed and militarily controlled quarters, which keep shrinking due to illegal settlements with every turn of the calendar.

A society in which trade is encouraged, not blocked and sanctioned.

A society in which leaders of the

I disagree with the above, and how completely divorced from reality it is.


by LtUaE42 k

I disagree with the above, and how completely divorced from reality it is.

Oh, the irony.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/sum...

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/most-pal...

https://fluxirr.mcgill.ca/article/view/5...

https://www.unicef.org/mena/documents/ga...

Do take note the date on which any and all of the above were published.


by LtUaE42 k

I disagree with the above, and how completely divorced from reality it is.

you disagree with these basic facts? maybe you should call up the Palestinians and tell them that they dont need special license plates and can drive on the Settler roads.

A society in which people who are not Jewish are allowed to walk and drive on the same street as those who are.

A society in which a ratio of 1900ish building permits aren’t given to Jews for every 1 given to Palestinians.

A society in which minorities are not segregated to closed and militarily controlled quarters, which keep shrinking due to illegal settlements with every turn of the calendar.


by corpus vile k

Israel is going nowhere. Get used to it

Just like in 1994 when every person with one shred of humanity in them never sincerely believed let alone called for South Africa to be destroyed, the only people calling for Israel to be destroyed are lunatics, religious fanatics and those who’s only source of information is TikTok.

A long term solution will never require Israel to go anywhere. Israel exists and must continue to exist.

It’s apartheid however must be destroyed if that long term solution and lasting peace are ever to come to fruition.


Israel isn't an Apartheid state regardless of fa left wailing to the contrary so it's all good.


Apartheid states generally don't massacre their subject populations. This is a bit more like the relationship between the US and Indian territory in the 19th century.


by corpus vile k

Israel isn't an Apartheid state regardless of fa left wailing to the contrary so it's all good.

There is almost quite literally an endless amount of information available to the public that would strongly suggest otherwise.

There are historians, political science academics, reporters, human rights committees, experts from every corner of the globe calling Israel an apartheid.

There are literal Israeli academics who are accomplished and respected in their profession detailing how and why Israel is an apartheid.

They must all be lying or connected to Hamas I guess.

Trying to talk to an Israeli apologist is starting to feel a lot like trying to convince a fly that flowers are better than ****.


I agree that Israel is a lot worse but South Africa committed many instances of mass murder, esp in its waning days.


Israel and its entrenched apartheid are so irrevocably intertwined that it's now impossible to imagine Israel as a normal country.


People from south Africa find it very insulting that you call Israel an apartheid state

But you guys know better than them



Broken YouTube Link

This has been going on for years

Wrongfully calling Israel apartheid

It's typical. It's not much different than calling trump hitler

by gotwoot k

There is almost quite literally an endless amount of information available to the public that would strongly suggest otherwise.

There are historians, political science academics, reporters, human rights committees, experts from every corner of the globe calling Israel an apartheid.

There are literal Israeli academics who are accomplished and respected in their profession detailing how and why Israel is an apartheid.

They must all be lying or connected to Hamas I guess.

Trying to talk to an Israel

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