Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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not surprised on those that agree that wsop is in the right and Bonomo in the wrong..
I think they're both in the right. It is a political statement and they can very legitimately try to prevent those in the main televised events if they want to.
I also think our man Bonomo is doing a geat job in trying to anyway.
a big shout out to BLUE, hope you're doing well. keep killing those awful hamas terrorists, the safety of your citizens depends on your efforts!
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loads of stuff coming out from syria. apparently RUSSIA was secretly involved in efforts to destroy iran's smuggling capabilities. might be a factor as to why why israel has been fairly neutral on ukraine
White supremacists absolutely aren't, you are confusing normal rightwing people with them.
White supremacists aren't antizionists either though, they like the idea of what they consider 2 inferior races killing each other and the more they kill each other the more they like it, and they write as such on twitter. So maybe that's what confused you. They hate jews and hate arabs and love the idea of jews and arabs dying as much as possible.
But they are completly against american aid to Israel among other things.
Normal rightwing people in the USA are almost all pro-Israel though, that's correct.
Richard Spencer and Tommy Robinson are Zionists
tommy Robinson isn't a white supremacist, just an anti - Muslim.
white supremacists deeply hate ALL non whites, afaik Robinson doesn't want to deport and ban entrance to christian Filipinos or black christians.
ofc someone who is "only" anti Muslim will find a natural ally in Israel.
Spencer instead is an actual white supremacist, and he is for a two states solution for I/P lol because he loves ethnostates and wants all countries in the world to be ethnostates. he even said he doesn't support Trump because Trump would have helped Israel bombing Iran and he is against that.
Spencer also wants Israel to exist just so that he can deport American Jews there to give the idea of the guy
The real victims of clowns like Bonomo are of course Palestinians. the Bonomo's of the world are so divisive and repulsive, they reflexively make people want nothing to do with the Palestinian cause. I see a white guy in a Keffiyeh or waving a Palestinian flag, and the last thing I would want to do is engage with them at all or hear anything they have to say.Having an articul
You’re assuming that the general public will react to seeing a white guy in a keffiyeh the in the same manner you would and maybe you’re right. It does seem awfully anti-Semitic though, seeing as #1 he’s Jewish & #2 keffiyeh is a Semitic garment.
You’re assuming that the general public will react to seeing a white guy in a keffiyeh the in the same manner you would and maybe you’re right. It does seem awfully anti-Semitic though, seeing as #1 he’s Jewish & #2 keffiyeh is a Semitic garment.
Here were go with semetic again
Regardless of its origins or who had worn it the past 100 years, he was wearing it as a POLITICAL STATEMENT and that's why he was asked to take it off. Period
Spencer and Yaxley Lennon aka Tommy Robinson have both described themselves as Zionists. Try again.
Not to get bogged down on Bonomo because he’s not very interesting or relevant, but has he ever talked about being Jewish other than in an effort to legitimize his opinions on Israel and Palestine? It doesn’t seem like him being Jewish is relevant nor has anything to do with the ideas he harbors.
What the hell happened , when I was younger keffieh was a fashion accessory and I had actually no idea it was some palestinian artefact.
Yeah it was a fashion accessory among metal heads when I was a teen, only they were called PLO scarves over my way, but the metalheads simply wore them because they looked cool
It's relevant because the go-to argument against criticisms of Israel is that the speaker is antisemitic.
There are plenty of antisemetic jews we have been through this
But that wasn't the argument here. The argument was the kaffiyeh is a political statement and wsop says he shouldn't be wearing it so who the **** cares if he is Jewish
Doesn't he believe in having 13 wives or something?
Daniel Negreanu, on the other hand, is a true mensch.
Until i went down this rabbithole, I didn't even realize that Justin bonomo was zeejustin the multiaccounting pos that cheated people out of money 20 years ago and never apologized, he only defended his actions
Holy crap
Until i went down this rabbithole, I didn't even realize that Justin bonomo was zeejustin the multiaccounting pos that cheated people out of money 20 years ago and never apologized, he only defended his actions
Holy crap
If you didn’t realize this then you really know nothing about him. And yes he did apologize, and no he doesn’t believe in having 13 wives.
Stop being gross.
I don’t think you know either Justin nor Daniel personally, so maybe give it a rest.
Since the pro-Zionist crowd has so disgustingly cheapened the term anti-Semitic, I for one think it’s important to refute not only what they falsely claim as anti-Semitic but also to highlight what is Semitic.
Like it or not and despite of what Zionists would want you to believe, Palestinians are by ethnicity a Semitic people and their garments including but not limited to the Keffiyeh would thus be Semitic garment.
I dgaf that they made him remove the garment nor am I arguing that it is not a political statement.
If you’re going to establish rules to police political statements (rightfully so) then please don’t ****ing turn around and make political statements yourself.
Since the pro-Zionist crowd has so disgustingly cheapened the term anti-Semitic, I for one think it’s important to refute not only what they falsely claim as anti-Semitic but also to highlight what is Semitic. Like it or not and despite of what Zionists would want you to believe, Palestinians are by ethnicity a Semitic people and their garments including but not limited to the
that stuff is not "semitic" anymore except in highly specified technical or educational places.
for the West, semitic means Jews, no matter where they were born. antisemitic means anything that Zionists (aka the people who support the Israeli colonial apartheid state) deem as such.
nobody in their right mind would call bigoted statements against Palestinians "antisemitic."
Moderation Note
So we’re going to put a moratorium on posters claiming that certain Jews are self hating or anti-Semitic. That’s done. And the next person who does is it is going to eat a ban.
Furthermore, as far as I know, nobody has used the term “Zio” in here and nobody posting itt is a white supremacist, so those accusations are also going to stop. It is already against the rules of the thread to use the term “Zionists” in scare quotes or to refer to all Jews.
It is clear some of you need parameters on the things you’re allowed to claim about other individuals, so we’ll be putting them in place now.
Thank you.
If you didn’t realize this then you really know nothing about him. And yes he did apologize, and no he doesn’t believe in having 13 wives.
Stop being gross.
13 wives was an exaggeration
I know little about him. I followed it when it happened and when I played online poker. Not now.
Again who goes a **** if I know them personally. You don't know Bibi personally but are allowed to have a negative opinion of him
I'm allowed to have an opinion. Okay maybe you know the people and I don't. Who cares. Not me
His wiki


Regarding the apology
I was wring about the apology. I found his original awful statement but did not remember his actual apology a month later which looks fine




