Israel/Palestine thread

Yes, I do know both Justin and Daniel personally. You post nonsense constantly about things you know nothing about.

This is a poker forum. Nobody is expected to personally know the heads of various states, but its a pretty high likelihood that when you're speaking about other poker players you have some of their friends in the audience. So maybe know that before spouting off the next time.

Also, Justin has always been open about his Jewish identity, and you have NO idea what sort of personal battles he has fought over the years to atone for his mistakes. Shame on you.

Guys, it's extremely easy to just not rush in to defend Neo-Nazi internet trashbabies.

Its important to check your sources. If you aren't sure about a piece of content, checking the source is going to reveal the answer immediately almost every time.

Ynet news is an Israeli news outlet which mainly just reports stuff down the middle and doesn’t get too sensational.

Rhey have done a few stories basically saying Israel doesn’t really have any options against the Houthi’s, as they have no intelligence.

They can indiscriminately target Yemen infrastructure, but it would be a big negative PR move with the west with questionable efficacy, since the Houthis are so indifferent to the people of Yemen,

The US is believed to have better intelligence on Houthi which they have declined to use to date, not wanting to escalate. US mainly attacks empty Houthi buildings whenever they do retaliate, which as one would predict just emboldens them more.

So ynet is reporting the IDF is trying to convince the US to share intelligence.

Of course this will cause escalation, but given ballistic missiles are raining down in Tel Aviv, escalation will probably happen anyways.

When dealing with religious motivated drugged out psychopaths With zero regard for human life, sometimes there is no good options.

Yeah. If for some bizarre reason you can't see the tweets speaking for themselves, that is...

This analysis presumably doesn't extend to the Ukraine thread

Thank you very much. I'm doing very well.

sadly did not get to travel to Syria.

I was just starting to get seriously into online poker when ZeeJustin was doing his pretty hardcore cheating. I absolutely hated him for years; to this day think he should be permanently banned from poker; and still hate that he seems to be roughly the only prominent poker player with humane and mostly good political views.

No surprise on the last point, poker is dominated by STEM types, a group that is highly reactionary in nature.

My one encounter with Negreanu was at the PCA back in like 2010, some poor lady brought him a smoothie and he got upset, I still remember him adopting a sharp tone and going like, "erm, this has ANIMAL parts in it, I need a fully vegan smoothie!" or something like that. Currently he has become the Kim Kardashian of poker. Attention is like air to him. I loathe this blackface clown.

Anyway, bad people can be found all across the political spectrum.

lol wait, do we have a legit IDF psycho terrorist on the forum? That's pretty cool. Have you stopped wearing the panties you stole from Palestinian homes yet?

Most of the country serves, with some exceptions for the orthodox. Without this, the country would have fallen decades ago (without question). Many of my co-workers, friends and family have served (or are presently serving).

Is it your contention that people drafted into the IDF are all psycho terrorists? So the only majority Jewish army in the world, is an army of psychos? Do I have that about right?

Hamas- a pack of psycho terrorists if ever there were ones- violated a ceasefire and attacked Israel on Oct 07. The IDF are defending Israel. You're well out of line referring to a poster who's risking his own life defending his country and fellow citizens' existence as a psycho terrorist. It has you coming across as a petulant teenager and makes it impossible for anyone rational to take you seriously on anything.

relax, i am certain that our lad blue is too busy liquidating terrorist rapists to care about what Karl_TheOG_Marx thinks

Yeah, I know. Pretty psychotic to make every citizen sign up for the Israeli Death Squad, eh?

1. More or less. Your co-workers, friends, and family are, at the least, bad people. Are they clinically psychotic? I don't know. I do know the only remotely moral decision for any Israeli is to refuse to fight and/or to leave the country.
2. For the record, the average soldier in ANY military is a psycho. This has nothing to do with Judaism, but fire up the victimization complex anyway...

He's actually risking his own life to end the lives of Palestinians. Talk about the world's smallest violin...

"Attacked Israel on Oct 07." Man, this is the only date which exists in the minds of the Zionists. Israel has attacked (killed, oppressed, unjustly imprisoned, etc. etc.) Palestinians on EVERY day, surely including 10/7, but never mind all that!

"Defending his country" through murdering children. Great defense. Wonderful defense. A regular Tim Duncan, what with that brilliant defense.

while simultaneously being not TOO busy to post on 2p2

Anyway, sick simpery for the brownshirt. You're polishing him up real nice.

So, by what factor have the IDF killed innocents more than Hamas? Obviously, we all know that IDF has killed exponentially more innocents than Hamas, but the degree by which that is the case is unclear.

5x, 20x?

I don't like or support Hamas. But compared to the IDF (and the US military, for the record), they're Nobel Peace Prize winners.

Were the men drafted by the Allies into World War 2, bad people?

We are talking about defending women/children/senior/all civilians against existential risk. If you believe that this is what makes a person BAD, I don't know where to begin. It's a hell of a thing to put your whole life on pause for 3 (or more) years, and risk it all to protect those who cannot protect themselves. The failure of Oct 7 was that there were not more of these soldiers in the south, to protect the civilians who were brutally tortured and slain at a range so close you could smell the person cutting your throat. That is true terror.

The second there is no IDF, there is no Israel. These are the facts. Everyone that puts on the uniform, does so to preserve Israeli lives. And it's one of the most dangerous jobs out there.

That every Jew that is drafted into the army is at minimum "bad", and often "a psycho", is the basis of antisemitism. You're an antisemite. These are also the facts. Because we're talking about nearly all Israeli young people. Not "a few bad apples".

I'm not interested in your endless excuses for Hamas and their abysmal record for dishonouring ceasefires. Earlier itt you praised October 07th thinking it was cool that Hamas used paragliders, so that tells me all I need to know about your sympathies. Hamas launched an aggressive attack, so yeah Israel is defending itself, regardless of your spin.

Some of them certainly were. Their overall cause was far more just than the typical military cause, but on an individual level, sure.

You say, "these are the facts". Here's a fact which has already gone ignored, despite me bringing it up more than once: IDF has killed far more innocents than Hamas. Somehow, nobody wants to address this simple truth. I guess eventually they'll claim that all the murdered 7-year olds are Hamas.

Oh word? Is there a way to do that WITHOUT committing mass murder? The IDF certainly hasn't found one.

Maybe you missed where I said that the average member of ANY military is bad and/or a psycho, and that that has nothing to do with Judaism. But again, fire up that victimization complex; I guess it's the only way you can comfortably sleep at night on top of the corpses of the children you murdered.

This, of course, never happened. The paragliders part is pretty cool, true, but I've called 10/7 an ATROCITY so many goddamn times that I really should be given some credit.

Yes, the well known exponential function 20x

I'm perfectly happy with a two-state solution, as long the Palestinian nation is given equal rights, access to resources, and the general sovereignty that Israel receives.

Let me know if you accept this utter refutation of some of the more extreme claims ITT, that I'm somehow some hardcore antisemite that is just desperate to see Israel be erased.

I'm sure this is a sick burn for hardcore math nerds for whatever esoteric reason, but whatever the **** 20 times is called, thanks.

STEMlords really know how to get to the point. I hope they try connecting with humanity next. That'll be fun to watch.

Edit: I'm also curious to see your personal algorithm by which you excuse Israeli mass murder -- I assume it's getting together with sexual predator Skalansky and masturbating over graphs (?)

You used the phrase exponentially more, not me.

yes, I know

I'm saying that I admit it's possible I used that word incorrectly for reasons of which some math dork may or may not inform me, but it is completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Comparing Israel to nazis is a known anti Semitic trope, and against the rules of this thread. Maybe you weren't aware of that, but you are now, so give such things a rest, thanks.