ex-President Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Whether you listed it as a gas bill or a credit card bill is irrelevant, just like it wouldn't matter if Trump listed the payments to Stormy as "hush money payment" or "legal expenses"
idk why I'm bothering here, but you can't solicit campaign donations and then use that money to pay off personal expenses like hush money for prostitutes. That's fraud on its face. Although I guess you can get away with it since Trump did, so maybe I actually agree with your position, whatever it is.
I'm not a lawyer, but most lawyers (except the ones who hate him of course) agree with me that no crime was committed and the case was a sham.
Playbig not even wrong.
i think he's not wrong to want to live in a world where we can pay off sex workers without uncle sam digging his paws into the details
key word is "criminal" election interference.
I would list it as a credit card payment, since it's no longer a payment for gas or groceries.
LOL, what?
Once the NDA is executed and payments are being made it's now a legal expense instead of "shut stormy up money".
LOL, what?
Smartest thing I've seen you post in some time. When you're in a hole, stop digging.
After several decades in small business accounting, I'd bet every penny I have on being able to look at the books of 999 out of every 1000 businesses and easily be able to find something that would hold up in court as a crime. I did one myself just yesterday. The accounting equivalent of jaywalking, but jaywalking is illegal nonetheless.
But no, dear reader, you cannot simply pay things with a credit card and then obfuscate the underlying expense by slapping a "credit card expenses" label on it.
I didn't follow the Trump trial at all, but did just look up the 34 felonies he was convicted on. It's the legal equivalent of running your 200 word essay through ChatGPT and asking it to "make this longer" 15 times in a row and then slapping a font size 24 and triple spacing to make it seem more substantial.
He did one thing that happens in, again, probably 999 out of 1000 businesses in the USA every day, and got caught. It might not be hush money payments being misclassified, but every single small business owner who writes off his meals paid with a company card would be guilty of falsifying accounting records, too. This is approximately 100% of businesses.
After several decades in small business accounting, I'd bet every penny I have on being able to look at the books of 999 out of every 1000 businesses and easily be able to find something that would hold up in court as a crime. I did one myself just yesterday. The accounting equivalent of jaywalking, but jaywalking is illegal nonetheless.
But no, dear reader, you cannot simply pay things with a credit card and then obfuscate the underlying expense by slapping a "credit card expenses" label on it
Playbig probably thinks this backs up his "but it was a legal expense" argument.
It's the credit card obfuscation with extra steps. But yeah, businesses do this ALL. THE. TIME. Every sector.
A common example of the same type of thing in the construction industry is to use a subcontractor who willingly skirts labor law or lies to his insurance company, but your payment to that subcontractor itself is clean and legal. Their insurance company should've hired better auditors, and tracking your payroll practices isn't my responsibility.
If anyone on this forum has donated something other than cash to charity and used it as an itemized deduction, I'd bet you overstated the value and cheated on your taxes.
After several decades in small business accounting, I'd bet every penny I have on being able to look at the books of 999 out of every 1000 businesses and easily be able to find something that would hold up in court as a crime. I did one myself just yesterday. The accounting equivalent of jaywalking, but jaywalking is illegal nonetheless.
But no, dear reader, you cannot simply pay things with a credit card and then obfuscate the underlying expense by slapping a "credit card expenses" label on it
inso keep in mind that "business record falsification" in the vast majority of cases (99%+ according to experts asked about it at the time) in NYS wouldnt be a felony.
they made the exceptional, almost unique (for NYS state law) decision to try it as first grade, which requires the business record falsification to be in order to cover or commit a crime, and basically it's unheard of (again according to experts) to do that unless you have found the actual crime linked to it (say a drug dealer falsifying business records to appear a legit business doing something else, or anything like that).
in trump case the jury had to simply believe it was possible he was "facilitating the commission of an associated crime" even if the crime wasn't committed. an exceptional stretch of the law (technically legal though), with almost no precedent being applied as such, and just icing on the cake, indictment done the second to last possible day before statute of limitations kicked in, and only because COVID delayed the statute of limitations lol.
inso keep in mind that "business record falsification" in the vast majority of cases (99%+ according to experts asked about it at the time) in NYS wouldnt be a felony.
they made the exceptional, almost unique (for NYS state law) decision to try it as first grade, which requires the business record falsification to be in order to cover or commit a crime, and basically it's unheard of (again according to experts) to do that unless you have found the actual crime linked to it (say a drug dealer fals
Why did Trump pay the hush money if he didn't **** her? Trump has NEVER admitted he that banged her. But he obviously paid her and the most obvious reason is to keep her quiet about something. Trump is a very stable genius awesome business man, and as such he'd never have paid her if she threatened to just make stuff up. So if he wasn't paying her to stfu about a banging that never happened, what WAS he paying her to keep quiet about? That he has a tiny little cock?
He did one thing that happens in, again, probably 999 out of 1000 businesses in the USA every day, and got caught. It might not be hush money payments being misclassified, but every single small business owner who writes off his meals paid with a company card would be guilty of falsifying accounting records, too. This is approximately 100% of businesses.
Oh I'm sure it was a lot more than 1 thing 😀 Regardless, the vast majority of those people also know that going into, especially national, politics comes along with having your life put under an electron microscope. If you leave yourself wide open you should expect to get dunked on.
Why did Trump pay the hush money if he didn't **** her? Trump has NEVER admitted he that banged her. But he obviously paid her and the most obvious reason is to keep her quiet about something. Trump is a very stable genius awesome business man, and as such he'd never have paid her if she threatened to just make stuff up. So if he wasn't paying her to stfu about a banging that never happened, what WAS he paying her to keep quiet about? That he has a tiny little cock?
what was the crime William?
Why did Trump pay the hush money if he didn't **** her? Trump has NEVER admitted he that banged her. But he obviously paid her and the most obvious reason is to keep her quiet about something. Trump is a very stable genius awesome business man, and as such he'd never have paid her if she threatened to just make stuff up. So if he wasn't paying her to stfu about a banging that never happened, what WAS he paying her to keep quiet about? That he has a tiny little cock?
Whether he did or not was totally irrelevent.
He's one of the richest people in the world, if he wants to **** around on the side that's his choice.
If someone just came up with a simple cure for cancer, are you gonna say "He paid someone to keep quiet about an affair and he inflated his PSF with a higher property value.
NO ONE takes a PFS at face value that's looking to loan him money against his assets, if they were or they would of requested a professional appraiser at Trump's expense. Ask anyone in these types of industries instead of relying on fake controlled propaganda media.
You're so hell bent that "orange man's bad" even though you admit it's him personally you don't like, not his policies.
Get over yourself already, yes orange man might be a "bad guy", but he's standing up to an entity much bigger than people think.
Whether he did or not was totally irrelevent.
He's one of the richest people in the world, if he wants to **** around on the side that's his choice.
So you only consider it scummy when poor people **** around on the side?
If someone just came up with a simple cure for cancer, are you gonna say "He paid someone to keep quiet about an affair and he inflated his PSF with a higher property value.
Sorry, brah, but Trump's "contributions" to humanity are nowhere near close to what the contribution of a person who cures cancer would be.
Just lmao at the carnie logic it takes to compare what would be a genius scientist to a womanizing grifter who brags about passing a dementia evaluation.
Why did Trump pay the hush money if he didn't **** her? Trump has NEVER admitted he that banged her. But he obviously paid her and the most obvious reason is to keep her quiet about something. Trump is a very stable genius awesome business man, and as such he'd never have paid her if she threatened to just make stuff up. So if he wasn't paying her to stfu about a banging that never happened, what WAS he paying her to keep quiet about? That he has a tiny little cock?
I thought he also countersued her for violating the NDA by talking about having sex and his mushroom shaped penis.
Trump knows his incels very well……he’s their god……he gives them hope that like him, they can snag a mail-order bride from the former EasternBlock even though they’re charisma-less tools who don’t know the 1st thing about how to attract women (grab them by the pussy!!!! what a ****ing ******)……he knows they will rationalize ANYTHING he does for if they don’t, they know they’ve conceded that they’re hopelessly celibate forever……that’s how he knew he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and his supporters would still be with him……the primal drive for men to feel powerful and important is a strong one….they know once he’s exposed as a fraud, they’re also exposed as pathetic zeroes who worshipped a charlatan……so, they create their own reality…..Trump won!!!!……vaccines kill healthy athletes!!!!…..we’re not huge losers who can’t get laid!……hopeless zeroes……all of them……but there’s a lot of them and so, Trump won……buckle up…..the incel ******s are in charge, and they’re pissed off from decades of sexual frustration and being told the truth about who and what they are.
Whether he did or not was totally irrelevent.
He's one of the richest people in the world, if he wants to **** around on the side that's his choice.
If someone just came up with a simple cure for cancer, are you gonna say "He paid someone to keep quiet about an affair and he inflated his PSF with a higher property value.
NO ONE takes a PFS at face value that's looking to loan him money against his assets, if they were or they would of requested a professional appraiser at Trump's expense.
Isn't what Truth social is?
Do your own research. Look it up. Educate yourself. It's a matter of public record. Duh?
No there was no explicit accessory crime named nor was trump convicted of any.
Trump got convicted of falsifying business records to help him commit a crime (otherwise it wouldn't have been a felony) without anyone knowing which crime that was.
It's like you drove a car and got over speed limit but it's a felony because maybe you did it to commit another crime but we don't know which one
No there was no explicit accessory crime named nor was trump convicted of any.
Trump got convicted of falsifying business records to help him commit a crime (otherwise it wouldn't have been a felony) without anyone knowing which crime that was.
It's like you drove a car and got over speed limit but it's a felony because maybe you did it to commit another crime but we don't know which one
It’s not at all like that. In the USA, school children can bring food to school and eat it. Also in the USA, if you break the law, you may be prosecuted.
Trump broke the law. Was prosecuted, and was convicted by a jury of his peers.
There’s nothing more to discuss.
It’s not at all like that. In the USA, school children can bring food to school and eat it. Also in the USA, if you break the law, you may be prosecuted.
Trump broke the law. Was prosecuted, and was convicted by a jury of his peers.
There’s nothing more to discuss.
Sure so SCOTUS decided presidential immunity exists, and you have to accept the entirety of that judicial decision and you have no right to disagree with anything about that as there is nothing more to discuss, and this applies to every single judicial decision.
Thousands of millions of presidential immunities
Sure so SCOTUS decided presidential immunity exists, and you have to accept the entirety of that judicial decision and you have no right to disagree with anything about that as there is nothing more to discuss, and this applies to every single judicial decision.
I have no idea what any of this means.
Trump ****ed a porn star while his wife was carrying his child, and you are ok with it. Just own it and move on.
