In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by Luckbox Inc k

This must be an east coast thing.

It's happening now inland empire east of LA.

CA kicked out dairy farmers and it's a field day of developers building tilt ups with infrastructure taking some time to catch up.


by PokerHero77 k

It's happening now inland empire east of LA.

CA kicked out dairy farmers and it's a field day of developers building tilt ups with infrastructure taking some time to catch up.

well word of caution in the luciom world , dont go in italy, you might get shoot on sight near the border, even in "event crisis"...


by Luciom k

yes with terminate I meant no yearly renewal (they also need to tell you 75 days in advance).

"Yes I'm sure (if by terminate you mean renew instead)".


by zers k

I wasn't criticizing either of them. It's just fascinating how two people can have such different reactions.

Ah, my bad. I'll have to watch the other clip.


by jalfrezi k

"Yes I'm sure (if by terminate you mean renew instead)".

In italian it's termination if there is an interruption to an otherwise automatic renewal.

And i am pretty sure a lot of the people who didn't get the renewal thought of it as termination in these occasions as well in California.

It might be the case that the technical legal term in legal english isn't termination though , on that i trust rococo and the others with skills on that topic.

Example here, in the page (canadian site) about "My insurer terminated my contract", for house insurance there are the 2 options

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Home insurance
Cancellation

The insurer may cancel your home insurance contract at any time without having to provide any justification. However, the insurer must advise you in writing. The contract will be end 15 days after the notice has been received3.

Non-renewal

The insurer usually sends a notice of non-renewal 30 days before the expiration date. That said, the law does not specify any particular mechanism nor any specific deadline to do so.
/

So at least in canadian english , Termination includes both cancellation (interruption before the term ends) and non-renewal

Now you can keep being a smartass if you think it is useful or accept the fact that is normal to think of non-renewal as termination (even if, again, it might be improper in legal american english)


Oh Jal wait a sec, it's actually proper to use termination for non-renewal even in american legal english! termination encompasses both cancellation and non-renewal!

In California, whether termination of an insurance policy is for non-renewal or cancellation, the insurer must provide written notice

How smart do you look now jal?


by Montrealcorp k

well word of caution in the luciom world , dont go in italy, you might get shoot on sight near the border, even in "event crisis"...

We can make exceptions for people fleeing communism as i mentioned more than once, and it could apply to California soon with this trend


by Luciom k

Oh Jal wait a sec, it's actually proper to use termination for non-renewal even in american legal english! termination encompasses both cancellation and non-renewal!

In California, whether termination of an insurance policy is for non-renewal or cancellation, the insurer must provide written notice

How smart do you look now jal?

lol using a web site from a lawyer that sues insurance companies as your source. (How hard did you need to search for that one?)

If you want a win here, yes, termination can mean something comes to its natural end (clearly not the context you were using). So bravo to you. But, an insurance company terminating a policy is an active thing.


by Rococo k

Given the tone of civil discourse recently, I'm surprised that there aren't more people celebrating the number of celebrities who have lost residences to the fires in the last 72 hours.

JJ Reddick losing his rental home was probably the only time I thought to myself ‘in what world am I supposed to give a **** about this’

The only ones I’d celebrate are the ones hiring private fire fighters strictly to guard their homes. **** those people forever


by Didace k

lol using a web site from a lawyer that sues insurance companies as your source. (How hard did you need to search for that one?)

If you want a win here, yes, termination can mean something comes to its natural end (clearly not the context you were using). So bravo to you. But, an insurance company terminating a policy is an active thing.

well in California to avoid automatic renewal the company actively needs to do stuff as I reported to you. they have to justify it to the regulator with risk models and so on


by bundy5 k

I just wonder with these fires in California whether they have been keeping up with their fire management over there. Particularly, planned burns to reduce the extent of the impact of fires and whether they haven't for ecological reasons.

Funny that you and Glenn Beck and Hannity have the same exact theory. It’s not the 7 inches of yearly rainfall on average, it’s the lack of controlled burns in the palisades.


by jjjou812 k

Funny that you and Glenn Beck and Hannity have the same exact theory. It’s not the 7 inches of yearly rainfall on average, it’s the lack of controlled burns in the palisades.

can't be yearly rainfall because rain was above 20y average last 2 years there.

One theory is actually that more rain caused more vegetation growth so lacking intervention to prune it especially near power lines (which is legally mandate to a company that donates a lot to democrats to avoid fines because they don't do it as much as they should), higher odds of fires.


by Luciom k

can't be yearly rainfall because rain was above 20y average last 2 years there.

One theory is actually that more rain caused more vegetation growth so lacking intervention to prune it especially near power lines (which is legally mandate to a company that donates a lot to democrats to avoid fines because they don't do it as much as they should), higher odds of fires.

Hold on a second here - I thought you said the ground wasn't wet enough?


by jjjou812 k

Funny that you and Glenn Beck and Hannity have the same exact theory. It’s not the 7 inches of yearly rainfall on average, it’s the lack of controlled burns in the palisades.

You realize that lack of controlled burns in mitigating California fires has been a talking point for around 20 years?


lol, LA has been in a twenty year drought and is a semi arid environment. By some rainfall definitions, which differ, parts of LA are deserts.


by Didace k

Hold on a second here - I thought you said the ground wasn't wet enough?

I said there is a theory (based on increased rainfall). Not that i subscribed to it. But there definitely was more rainfall than average.

My theory is that diverting water elsewhere is a co-factor (different theory).

So ground is dry because you divert the water elsewhere but you got the increase in vegetation caused by the heavier rainfall, but the water wasn't let stay in the area, you get what i mean?

But recently accounts of many arsonists having operated in the area should make us rethink things a little, it's possible the condition for heavy fire are often present (perhaps this time more than usual because of a combination of dryness, excess vegetation, and heavy winds), but still without the arsonists nothing out of ordinary would have happened.

Still don't know enough of course, what's absolutely certain is that climate change in no way shape or form can possibly have mattered more than 10% (and very plausibly, not even that). It's like not even remotely in the top20 of possible , plausible co-factors.

While it's absolutely certain democrats misgovernment played a part (how big, unclear still), far bigger part than climate change.


by jjjou812 k

lol, LA has been in a twenty year drought and is a semi arid environment. By some rainfall definitions, which differ, parts of LA are deserts.

Was this a response to me?


by jjjou812 k

lol, LA has been in a twenty year drought and is a semi arid environment. By some rainfall definitions, which differ, parts of LA are deserts.

april 2024

In a matter of weeks, a succession of powerful storms flipped the script, dumping a stream of record-setting, intense rainfall across California, much of it on the state’s southwestern region.

That wet pattern has continued as winter has given way to spring, with this past weekend’s storm dumping up to 4 inches of rain in some areas — pushing Los Angeles to a new two-year rain total not seen since the late 1800s and forestalling any hope for a quick end to the rainy season.

As of Monday morning, downtown Los Angeles had received 52.46 inches of rain in the latest two water years, the second-highest amount in recorded history. The only other two-year October-through-September period — the period for the so-called water year — that saw more rain was from 1888 through 1890, according to the National Weather Service.

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Why do you lie?


by Luckbox Inc k

You realize that lack of controlled burns in mitigating California fires has been a talking point for around 20 years?

Tell me the last three times they did controlled burns in the Palisades or the .Hollywood Hills..


by Luciom k

I said there is a theory (based on increased rainfall). Not that i subscribed to it. But there definitely was more rainfall than average.

My theory is that diverting water elsewhere is a co-factor (different theory).

So ground is dry because you divert the water elsewhere but you got the increase in vegetation caused by the heavier rainfall, but the water wasn't let stay in the area, you get what i mean?

But recently accounts of many arsonists having operated in the area should make us rethink thin

Back country San Diego county gets the same winds and there were a couple of small fires during the December Santa Ana we got and they were put out pretty quickly-- but they're all human caused. One was from someone weed whacking and the other something similar. Stuff doesn't just spontaneously combust due to high wind.


Obviously there is a lot that could be done better-- the biggest would just be clearing brush, creating fires breaks, having more controlled burns, using goats, educating the public on the need to clear brush around homes, mandating that homes are built to be more fire resistant (stucco and tile roofs are very fire resistant), making sure that there is adequate water supply, deenergerizing power lines when Santa Anas come, etc.


by Luciom k

april 2024

In a matter of weeks, a succession of powerful storms flipped the script, dumping a stream of record-setting, intense rainfall across California, much of it on the state’s southwestern region.

That wet pattern has continued as winter has given way to spring, with this past weekend’s storm dumping up to 4 inches of rain in some areas — pushing Los Angeles to a n

You are just cherry picking data. They have had higher than average rainfall the last two years, in part because their average annual rainfall has been so low. No one care that a two year high mark has been set.

“When you consider the records since 1877 in downtown L.A. ... the second [largest total] is hugely significant,” said Joe Sirard, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard. “We’re obviously way, way, way above normal for two years in a row now. For a dry climate like the Los Angeles area, it’s huge.”

https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/citi...


by jjjou812 k

Tell me the last three times they did controlled burns in the Palisades or the .Hollywood Hills..

The rich don't want controlled burns nearby where they live because they believe the overly exaggerated health risks of temporary higher microparticle density in the air (same people who believed in double masking and so on).

Crazy green types don't want controlled burns because some bird nests would burn and the like.

You would think having lost thousands of millions of dollars home would make at least the rich change their minds but I wouldn't bet on it


by jjjou812 k

Tell me the last three times they did controlled burns in the Palisades or the .Hollywood Hills..

I have no idea. That doesn't change my point which is that you're being ridiculous to think that Glen Beck and Hannity created the idea that California doesn't do enough controlled burns.


by jjjou812 k

You are just cherry picking data. They have had higher than average rainfall the last two years, in part because their average annual rainfall has been so low. No one care that a two year high mark has been set.

“When you consider the records since 1877 in downtown L.A. ... the second [largest total] is hugely significant,” said Joe Sirard, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard. “We’re obviously way, way, way above normal for two years in a row now. For a dry climate like

You said 20 year dry spell after they got the wettest 2 years in mire than a century.

Which you need to deny because it makes any claim about climate change having a role in this look as stupid as possible

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