In other news
In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.
I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.
Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.
No i was reasoning ad absurdum, for excesses, which is how you find if a lot of stuff is logic or not.
So, instead of being 1 house, now make it 5-10-20-50, does it change if around the circle they are in, you ****ing have no dry vegetation staying there ready to get on fire?
Just wipe clean everything around the urbanized area as frequently as you can resource wise (and being one of the wealthiest urban areas in the history of the world, it means you could do it every 3 months without even notici
Can we fly you in to go tell the people in Malibu/Topanga they need to turn their homes in the hills into parking lots? And we'll send them the bill 😀
No wait, that systematic controlled burns would have helped at the margin is absolutely certain without even the slightest shade of doubt.
What we can't quantify is how much they would have reduced the probability of these wildfires happening in the first place, and/or how much they would have made them less severe. The more the arsonists theory is true the less it would have mattered and viceversa.
If you have far less stuff that can burn nearby all urban settings (imagine burning down everything
There are people that don't buy land in Ca because they can't afford the mandated fire maintenance of the land. There are laws to keep your property maintained because of fire.
Your points about overall preventive policy makes sense but in this exact case of winds I don't think it was going to stop much. You don't have car dealerships burning down because of some extra brush. Hot, dry, powerful winds make it uncontrollable.
300 meters? Dude thinks everyone is living on 40ac parcels lol Defensible space recs are 100ft. And there are zillions of houses much closer together than that ffs.
It’s almost as if he knows nothing of the Pacific Palisades and the homes in the Hollywood Hills. Plus, he was talking about the 300k houses there…..lol.
It’s almost as if he knows nothing of the Pacific Palisades and the homes in the Hollywood Hills. Plus, he was talking about the 300k houses there…..lol.
you can't read. I am talking about the fact that if X is done around houses worth 300k (obviously elsewhere) , an order of magnitude more should be done around houses worth 3m (or more).
you spend a ton more on security, why not on cleaning the freaking vegetation nearby to avoid your house getting on fire?
it's insane there aren't fulltime dedicated personnel for the area that 40h/week clean dry vegetation for example.
There are people that don't buy land in Ca because they can't afford the mandated fire maintenance of the land. There are laws to keep your property maintained because of fire.
Your points about overall preventive policy makes sense but in this exact case of winds I don't think it was going to stop much. You don't have car dealerships burning down because of some extra brush. Hot, dry, powerful winds make it uncontrollable.
What laws are those ?
in other news, the guy who pleaded guilty of deleting all correspondence related to the details of how Purdue pharma was supposed to operate to push painkiller sales against science and legal medical practice, faces a sentence of "up to one year in prison".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...
we can't be sure exactly how many people got killed directly as a consequence of those illicit practices but it's almost certainly more than 100k.
now imagine someone deleting all the strategic details of a terror attack that killed 100k people (ofc this implies he was into the organization of the attack as well) and what the sentence would be.
the rule of law is broken beyond repair if this kind of stuff is "up to one year" of sentence
I can’t even wrap my head around the audacity of white knighting (oh I guess that makes sense) an unapologetic racist for getting words wrong
Actually considering you, I suppose I understand why in this case you’re mad I’m mocking that specific person
Put another way: **** your feelings. And his too
I can’t even wrap my head around the audacity of white knighting (oh I guess that makes sense) an unapologetic racist for getting words wrong
Actually considering you, I suppose I understand why in this case you’re mad I’m mocking that specific person
Put another way: **** your feelings. And his too
I'll guess you've never tried speaking a foreign language.
it's insane there aren't fulltime dedicated personnel for the area that 40h/week clean dry vegetation for example.
Sounds like some FDR jobs program stuff. You sure Willingly living in that commie country for so long hasn't rubbed off a little? Maybe we can hire some other people to sing to the trees 😀
Sounds like some FDR jobs program stuff. You sure Willingly living in that commie country for so long hasn't rubbed off a little? Maybe we can hire some other people to sing to the trees 😀
lol yes...
i wonder how a profitable private companies could take care of that ?
and dont forget no regulation to force people to actually do those fire on their properties since regulations couldnt be allowed too because u know, regulation is bad and evil...
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I grew up in the LA area so every time something burns around there I recall this day:
I was in high school, many years ago. One of my best friends lived in the hills on the outskirts of town. His was literally the last street of houses before you got into the brush so of course that area was in a high danger zone for fires. One summer day I saw smoke rising from the direction of his house. No answer on the phone (this was before cell phones) so I hopped in my car to see how close the fire was to his house.
Firetrucks were blocking the main road so I took a back road that few knew about. I got to his street and saw the fire coming up the hill, just starting to enter the yards of some of the houses. My friend's house was safe for the time being so we went to his neighbors' houses and sprayed down whatever we could with garden hoses. I'll never forget how *hot* it was, even from a fair distance from the flames. Most people say, duh, fire hot but I couldn't get over how hot the air itself felt. It felt like everything could just spontaneously catch fire at any moment. It was the most scared I had ever been.
As things were getting a bit too dangerous to stick around I heard a cat stuck inside a garage of the house that was probably 10 minutes from catching fire. It had a crappy, thin wooden door so I kicked the door open and grabbed the cat (it scratched the **** out of my arm and neck). I threw it in my car just as the firefighters arrived and got to work on the flames. They put out the fire approaching those houses within about 20 minutes.
Returned the cat to its owner later that day, they were very thankful.
That was my closest brush with a wildfire. Don't care to repeat it.
Exactly.
Watching on television those CSI shows I remember one of them mentioning that most people don't die from the fire, but from the hot air in their lungs. And some people who survived the fire and look normal will still die hours after the fire from the extremely hot air they ingested.
Sounds like some FDR jobs program stuff. You sure Willingly living in that commie country for so long hasn't rubbed off a little? Maybe we can hire some other people to sing to the trees 😀
Yes exactly the same as a public job program except it doesn't need to be public and you can select people who actually want to work and can fire those that don't unlike in a public job program
There is city/county ordinance and state laws because there is kind of an issue with fires in California if you're just tuning in.
I saw entire small hills on the side of roads covered with dry /dead looking vegetation in the various videos, some points of them on fire (small fires in those cases), just from the view we randomly got when they filmed police cars and firefighter trucks moving around
I saw entire small hills on the side of roads covered with dry /dead looking vegetation in the various videos, some points of them on fire (small fires in those cases), just from the view we randomly got when they filmed police cars and firefighter trucks moving around
Probably not private property. There are laws/ordinance in place to keep areas around structures clear of dead/dried brush. Doesn't help much when you live overlooking a valley of dried brush.
For rebuild I'd most likely lean to your side of the political spectrum. Insurance companies are going to need to charge heavy premiums to insure future buildings and I wouldn't want the govt subsidizing payouts when rebuilt houses burn down again because of price control. Because it will happen again.
