The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

No empathy. They can be trans all they want, I don't care. But we have to as a society kill off this pronoun business. he / him, she / her, they / them needs to be abolished.

We need this Capital gains tax killed off as soon as possible. CRA is still trying to collect taxes at the increased rate of capital tax and the proposed policy most likely dead in a few months. Too many Investors are waiting on the sidelines watching what happens with this tax.

I hope Carney wins the liberal leadership and announces this tax will be dead on arrival under his leadership so CRA can change course.

It's a liberal / NDP fictional echo chamber.

Repeat it to each other enough times so they all go around saying conservatives have no platform.

This doesn't make much sense. If someone is trans and identifies as a female, you think it should be "abolished" to refer to her as a her? What does "abolished" mean as a practical measure, like what specific thing are you proposing is banned here?

Um, Poilievre has been VERY closed lips on what his actual plans are for as prime minister. Note there is an important distinction between the types of documents that get adopted at CPC conventions and what that actual platform of the leader is. So far we have three main pledges:

1) cancelling the carbon rebate that helps 8/10 canadians
2) cancelling the housing accelerator fund that invests billions into new housing
3) cutting capital gains taxes on the rich

I'll give some basic examples of things we have no idea on. We don't know if poliievre plans to cancel the industrial carbon tax - shocking for a "carbon tax election". We don't know if he plans to lower income taxes. Or lower the GST. Or whether he will have any climate plan at all or some minor pretend one. We don't know much of anything about healthcare. There is basically no details on the housing plans, some vague insinuation of threatening municipalities but no details. etc etc etc

At this point in the cycle we know less about future plans than almost any comparable situation I can recall.

Fair enough. Seems like the strategy since he is not even in an election cycle yet tho. No reason to tip your hand and lock into a strategy better to be flexible if things change. Are you old enough to remember if Justin met your standards 1 year before he won his first election. i imagine its just the correct pollical play. Open to be proven wrong

Well yes it’s a strategy, and probably an effective one as bleating axthetax endlessly for two years has clearly been effective even without telling basically details like whether it includes the industrial carbon tax. But I think our politicians should be MUCH more upfront with what they actually plan to do so people can make informed decisions, and it is a loss when a politician hides their plans.

And yes Trudeau in 2015 was much clearer about his plans back then. Not everything turned out, of course, but a surprisingly large amount did.

I actually have a prediction. Freeland and carney will both come out against the consumer carbon tax but keep the industrial one. And only then will poilievre tell us he is against the industrial one too to position himself as the anti-carbon tax person once again. He don’t have to do that before.

Yet the latest candidate Freelance will cancel the carbon tax as well

The housing accelerator fund hadn’t built one house

Justin Trudeau had a pretend climate pan why can’t Pierre . Both plans will have the same exact effect on climate change

I don't think you understand how the fund works. It doesn't directly build homes. Instead, it provides financial incentives to local governments to address barriers to housing development and speed up housing approvals. There's been 170+ agreements with municipalities across Canada, including in conservative ridings where conservative MPs tepidly disagree with poliievre about cancelling the funding.

So for example in just one, calgary we got a recent report:

So no, the HAF didn't directly build one house, but it IS clearly having a positive influence.

So Freeland says no carbon tax what will you do if Carney says he will cancel it as well will you be voting NDP ?

The question will be
Carbon tax Carney or not

Carney will oppose the consumer portion as well. It’s very disappointing, but understandable. The policy is objectively great at a technical level. However, it is clearly out of political favour and both probably do the same calculation they can’t win with the policy. Poilievres deception hammering away at this policy was extremely politically effective, and the time for calmly explaining why the policy is effective is over. Instead, both are likely to turn to policies that fight climate change but don’t directly cost consumers. They of course will indirectly cost consumers - likely more than the carbon tax- and that is regrettable but still better than doing nothing.

In Ontario the $200 checks are going out. In BC the checks might be paused as eby is waiting to see what happens with tariffs. Good example of how three parties all did the same rebate check trick but only really Trudeau picked up flack for it, a sign of the political climate.

I take it all comedy in Kanada has become non-existing...

No the issue is the liberals sold it poorly. They stated that 80% of folks get more back than they pay excluding BC and Ontario which is a sizeable amount of folks. Though no one could answer honestly how they calculated that. It was easy to figure out how much each individual got back but they never disclosed how they calculated how much on average each individual paid. From a government that had no problems lying to use no one believed them accept the diehard liberals like you . I even personally sent e-mails to the PBO and Environment minster with no replies asking this question

Add in cancelling the carbon tax for Atlantic CDN"s to buy votes did not help

Also were does this leave the Environment minister as he stated he would not stay if the carbon tax is cancelled

It’s already been proven .
You just don’t listen …

Many receive checks not knowing what it really was lol.
But of course , it’s for those that actually are legit and fill up their tax income ….
If you don’t , u won’t receive rebate too .

Proven by whom ? And if its proven why not tell us how you came to that the formula

The most information I could find was that they think its based on the average family owning one car and driving 15,000 kms a year . I could find nothing on the average heating and electrical bill and source

Here is an article why investment $$ are just not coming into Canada under a law implemented by the Trudeau Government

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstori...

What on earth are you blabbing on about. That 8/10 Canadians get more back - direct AND indirect - fiscally from the carbon tax was established by the non-partisan armslength PBO. We've talked about the report ad nauseum. Is this some conspiracy theory where you don't believe the report?

Some people don't feel they fit into a neat gender binary and prefer using they/them pronouns. That's fine. We can still hire these people and treat them with respect. You don't have to personally believe the exact same things they believe to do that.

Yet no one can tell me how they calculate the number. Its a lie a flat out lie . If its such a great policy and true why would the two liberal candidates that will win get rid of it?

Why because CDN's know justin is lying and the carbon tax cost them more

lol so you don't believe the PBO report? Based on...uh....your feels?

Get a grip man.

Like one can have a reasonable discussion about the political ramifications of the policy, but if you can't even accept the basic facts as reported by the PBO then it's just angry men yelling at clouds.

Lmao which of you paid for the rolls Royce limo to shop up at carneys campaign launch to try and make him look out of touch, but it had nothing to do with him😃

The PBO says that it actually costs CDN's more when you factor in everything . Again he is using averages to calculate this

Yeah I saw that and thought is Jagmeet there?

How about them issuing press credentials to two individuals than calling the police on them to have them removed.

Liberals up 9 points in the polls with Justin gone

Stop this BS. You can't launch a massive conspiracy theory about the PBO being "lies" and how you are starting a failed email campaign about it - and then turn around and try and quote them. We all know the difference between fiscal and economic effects of the report. You've never characterized them correctly, but whatever. However, what you just tried to do was claim that the fiscal part - the 8/10 Canadians are better off fiscally part - was a lie.

Do you accept the PBO report as broadly accurate or do you think it is a lie?