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I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
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i literally grew up on the campus of a boarding school
they are not better
they just have more money, it costs about 80k a year to send your kid to a boarding school today
that is why these schools perform so much better, because it's children of the elites (with a couple scholarship nerds and athletes mixed in) and they are given tremendous resources - but the real thing is they all want to be there and that their parents obviously put a strong emphasis on education and them doing the work
the bi
Nobody is going to use Tylenol anymore when they hear about fellow drug cocaine’s overdose rate.
Seriously using a 80k/yr boarding school as your example of a private school is beyond silly, and I hope you already knew that.
FWIW many public services do sometimes get privatized (water in an example) and it always end up in a **** show on the long run .
Always cheaper earlier and then when they have the monopole they always raises prices to the max and government is stuck with no alternative .
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Th thing is monopolies , regardless it’s private or public , is never the best .
But at least when it’s public you can fires them (election days) not with the private sector ….
The though of getting better quality services
Please see my post above where I use an analogy comparing Tylenol and cocaine.
Comparing an industry with a monopoly like water to what we’d see with schools is beyond silly.
Wait a sec, all that you list was supposedly fixed with the magics of Obamacare.
Aside for the COBRA plans that already existed since the 80s to have you covered between jobs, the prohibition to discriminate against previous conditions eliminate fears that by losing your employer sponsored healthcare, when alone you might be denied coverage.
And the subsidies allow you to get coverage almost for free if you stop working and start to boost strap a business accepting low income for a while.
Why are y
As far as I know if you lose your job in America you still need to pay for health insurance and it's not cheap. And I'm not talking about now you want to finally get that mole removed since your schedule is freed up. Having a safety net for a medical emergency.
And yes, the billing system is insane. I don't know if the gag order on pharmacies is still in place but there was a time it was illegal for your pharmacist to tell you you're better off paying out of pocket for some drugs and not to use your insurance in some instances as it would be cheaper.
How do you suppose schools are going to gouge the govt (or parents for that matter) when there will be so much competition for kids? These schools are going to fight to keep the price low and the level of education up.
Are you one of the people who thought Kamala was reasonable to use grocery stores as an example of price gouging?
So all schools, regardless of their performance, are capped on what they can charge per student based on the money allotted by the govt for the student? If they charge less, are the parents allowed to pocket the money or it goes into a college/trade fund for the kid?
A decent public school that gets students from upper middle class (or medium-high middle class at least, top 35%) families will often work just fine. Problem is when it doesn't, because of some particularly terrible teachers, administrators, or very bad quality students.
That's when the difference between public and voucher in competition becomes stark. You can't have "high level" schools for normies not from the elite, that's true, but you can avoid having horrible schools that never get closed
Inso has interesting opinions on this. It only takes a couple disruptive students to wreck the learning environment for the whole class.
As far as I know if you lose your job in America you still need to pay for health insurance and it's not cheap. And I'm not talking about now you want to finally get that mole removed since your schedule is freed up. Having a safety net for a medical emergency.
And yes, the billing system is insane. I don't know if the gag order on pharmacies is still in place but there was a time it was illegal for your pharmacist to tell you you're better off paying out of pocket for some drugs and not to use
It's heavily subsidized by obamacare if you make like less than 400% of poverty line.
If you make up to 2x the poverty line, it's free (entirely subsidized). 200-250% you pay 2% of income and it goes up to 6% at 400%, 8.5% above that.
Keep in mind in other countries you are taxed far more on those incomes to get your "free" healthcare.
If you are poor you get medicaid.
It's heavily subsidized by obamacare if you make like less than 400% of poverty line.
If you make up to 2x the poverty line, it's free (entirely subsidized). 200-250% you pay 2% of income and it goes up to 6% at 400%, 8.5% above that.
Keep in mind in other countries you are taxed far more on those incomes to get your "free" healthcare.
If you are poor you get medicaid.
What is your tax rate in Italy? Before I left California I added all my taxes + health insurance and I was just below 40% with no write offs. Felt like I was paying comparable to Europe without the same benefits.
There are some credible threats to President Trump on inauguration day, which is even causing some people in the know to stay home. They've been trying to get Trump to agree to moving the inauguration to Mar a Lago or another area but due to his egotistical nature, he doesn't want that to stop him. I don't even know why these threats haven't been made public since they have something to do with Chinese drones.
We need to pray nothing happens to President Trump or anyone during Monday's inauguration. One of the whistleblowers from inside the CIA stated there's about a 20% chance of something happening.
The posts about having to wait months for an MRI in the States are shocking to me. I guess I've been very spoiled having Mayo Clinic be my PCP.
There are some credible threats to President Trump on inauguration day, which is even causing some people in the know to stay home. They've been trying to get Trump to agree to moving the inauguration to Mar a Lago or another area but due to his egotistical nature, he doesn't want that to stop him. I don't even know why these threats haven't been made public since they have something to do with Chinese drones.
We need to pray nothing happens to President Trump or anyone during Monday's inaugurat
My CIA insider says he wants it inside because it'll be too cold for him, and the weather will mess his hair up. Plus it's a built in excuse if he doesn't get the record breaking audiences he'll claim anyway.
A decent public school that gets students from upper middle class (or medium-high middle class at least, top 35%) families will often work just fine. Problem is when it doesn't, because of some particularly terrible teachers, administrators, or very bad quality students.
That's when the difference between public and voucher in competition becomes stark. You can't have "high level" schools for normies not from the elite, that's true, but you can avoid having horrible schools that never get closed
private schools are full of terrible teachers as well, i've had some tremendously awful ones
when i look at the best teachers i've ever had, they were all without a doubt from when i was in the public school system
to become a public school teacher it needs to be a plan of yours where you first pursue either a masters degree in teaching or take another path to get state certification - which takes some time and requires a lot of desire to become a teacher
private schools on the other hand are often a case of last resort, where someone needs something winds up at one of those schools, they often end up liking it and make a career out of it - but of the many private school educators i know very well, almost none of them set out to become a teacher, they perhaps studied economics and wanted to work in investment banking but had trouble finding work in that field and they needed some work ASAP, saw that his school had an opening for a history teacher, figured, hey i like history i can do that for a year while i continue to look for ibanking positions and applied and because the school desperately needed to fill the position they took this person in and then - then in the meantime they realized they liked teaching, loved having summers off and decided to stay there
the only difference is a private school can easily dismiss a bad teacher, however, they always land on their feet and find another teaching job at another prep school because these places always have openings
there are many bad teachers at private schools who are never fired though despite student complaints, my high school even had two barely functioning alcoholic teachers who'd literally dip out of class to go drink in their car - they were never fired, student complaints to the headmaster were usually treated the same way user complaints about terrible moderators go here, people get tribal and decide to protect their own rather than actually analyze and decide "is this person a bad mod?"
so yes they can get fired, but they usually aren't
you also get a lot of situations where you have a decent history teacher but the spouse wants a job and they are terrible at teaching but they still teach because the school doesn't want to lose the good one
likewise, the school brings in a hockey coach, he's there to coach the nationally ranked hockey team, but he also needs to teach, so they just toss him in a classroom he has no desire nor aptitude to work in and he of course is a terrible teacher but nobody cares because he's there for hockey
What is your tax rate in Italy? Before I left California I added all my taxes + health insurance and I was just below 40% with no write offs. Felt like I was paying comparable to Europe without the same benefits.
The highest marginal tax rates are comparable to California (state+federal), but high rates kick in INSANELY SOON in italy, and wages are FAR LOWER.
Because it's not income tax that assassinates you completly (it's rough, but not absurd vs american standards,for high income), it's payroll taxes which are beyond the unreal, 11% employee 22% company vs 6+6 for the USA. And they kick in on the first euro of income lol.
With the revamped (from this year) income brackets, you pay in Italy (after payrolls):
0-8500 0%
8500 - 28000 23%
28k - 50k 35%
50k+ - 43%
You can also deduct /detract FAR LESS than in the USA. For ex max 5k/year for retirement savings.
Capital gain is at 26%
Yes you read it right 50k you already are in the highest income tax bracket. We don't have the single/joint filers thing. If your spouse doesn't work you get a small deduction.
IF your employer spends 100k for you, 33k is payroll (yes lol), 67k is your gross income, approx 21k in taxes -> 46k take home pay.
Oh but you get a super nice "free" healthcare service which in most of italy is worse than medicaid is in the USA. The only thing that works actually decently is real life/death healthcare, and prenatal/natal works actually great because it's sized for natality in the past decades so they have an oversupply of rooms, doctors, nurses currently (low fertility now).
All the rest, you get obscene delays, and you either pay out of pocket for private providers or you just keep your diabete, knee pain and so on untreated (or treated 12+ months from now).
Oh and dental and visual aren't covered.
This is the nightmare social-democrats want to build for the USA, this is why i try to tell you people how good you have it (for the median person, maybe being really poor is better in Italy)
Inso has interesting opinions on this. It only takes a couple disruptive students to wreck the learning environment for the whole class.
Privatizing everything isn't a magic fix, but it will be better than the status quo.
The real fix is to un**** our family dynamics and personal values. rickroll is out of touch, obviously, but he did hit it on the head when he talks about kids at his boarding school looking down upon those who didn't want to do their homework and seeming like the opposite is true at many public schools.
Your great grandmother didn't walk 5 miles in the snow to get to school each day only to have you show up to class with no intention of participating and then call the teacher a **** and try to physically fight her because she told you to stop watching Netflix on your phone.
She's rolling around in her grave right now, and people who behave like this are not being shamed by their peers in sufficient numbers to discourage such behavior. Worse still: the schools won't punish it.
Nothing has improved since I last posted this in 2019:
From what I hear, it goes like this:
1) Students fight
2) Teacher attempts to control the situation
3) Students continue to fight
4) Safety is called
5) Wait 5 minutes for Safety to come, room is in chaos
6) Safety comes, 50/50 chance that student(s) are removed from the room as opposed to simply using the additional adults in the room to calm things down
7) If students are removed, takes another 10 minutes for the energy in the room to dissipate and you might be able to go back to a lesson
8) If studen
It's actually worse now that kids are further behind after losing two entire years to COVID policies.
Trump can't fix this. No government official can fix this. Communities need to fix this. We need to bring shame back to this country in a big, big way.
There are some credible threats to President Trump on inauguration day, which is even causing some people in the know to stay home. They've been trying to get Trump to agree to moving the inauguration to Mar a Lago or another area but due to his egotistical nature, he doesn't want that to stop him. I don't even know why these threats haven't been made public since they have something to do with Chinese drones.
We need to pray nothing happens to President Trump or anyone during Monday's inaugurat
Let's see... a broke person from Texas posing as a Rothschild heiress from Europe got past all the security at Mar-a-Lago and hung out all day with Trump on his golf course.
Yeah... I think he's far safer with the protections in place in DC.
Privatizing everything isn't a magic fix, but it will be better than the status quo.
The real fix is to un**** our family dynamics and personal values. rickroll is out of touch, obviously, but he did hit it on the head when he talks about kids at his boarding school looking down upon those who didn't want to do their homework and seeming like the opposite is true at many public schools.
Your great grandmother didn't walk 5 miles in the snow to get to school each day only to have you show up to
Trump cant fix it because Trump IS it.
The highest marginal tax rates are comparable to California (state+federal), but high rates kick in INSANELY SOON in italy, and wages are FAR LOWER.
Because it's not income tax that assassinates you completly (it's rough, but not absurd vs american standards,for high income), it's payroll taxes which are beyond the unreal, 11% employee 22% company vs 6+6 for the USA. And they kick in on the first euro of income lol.
With the revamped (from this year) income brackets, you pay in Italy (after payrol
Compare the real cost of a surgery in Italy and the U.S. and come back to me with the numbers …..
In Canada we pay 0$ ….just our income tax .
It's heavily subsidized by obamacare if you make like less than 400% of poverty line.
If you make up to 2x the poverty line, it's free (entirely subsidized). 200-250% you pay 2% of income and it goes up to 6% at 400%, 8.5% above that.
Keep in mind in other countries you are taxed far more on those incomes to get your "free" healthcare.
If you are poor you get medicaid.
It’s the same .
They end up paying more in other ways like healthcare and education.
Let’s not get crazy , healthcare should always cost money, it’s like an insurance you never want to pay .
trump can't fix it because under the federal constitution which you deeply hate and are disgusted by, THAT'S A STATE (AND LOCAL) MATTER.
stop playing the game as if you were France with all power centralized in Paris.
schools are a local matter. the federals can make things worse and often do but the best thing they can do about school is getting completely out of the way and let it be played at the state level as it was always supposed to be. it's not a federal matter at all, not in the slightest, not for any element that touches school.
Compare the real cost of a surgery in Italy and the U.S. and come back to me with the numbers …..
In Canada we pay 0$ ….just our income tax .
in Italy you pay 0 if you wait the insane time required, in the USA you pay 0 waiting far less.
in Italy you pay obscene taxes in the USA you pay for healthcare insurance, and even when high, if you have a decent income you are always far better off in the USA.
if you are poor subsidized by others incapable of paying for what you need, a parasite to others, then in the USA you still get it for free with medicaid anyway.
It’s the same .
They end up paying more in other ways like healthcare and education.
Let’s not get crazy , healthcare should always cost money, it’s like an insurance you never want to pay .
if I live my life better than others and I have better genes so I am less likely to get costly diseases I shouldn't be forced at gunpoint to subsidize people who make inferior choices and have worse genes.
you aren't priced your actual risk you are priced a generic average risk that cancels out good behavior, lifestyle choices, and genes.
that's horrific, distopic and disgenic
in Italy you pay 0 if you wait the insane time required, in the USA you pay 0 waiting far less.
in Italy you pay obscene taxes in the USA you pay for healthcare insurance, and even when high, if you have a decent income you are always far better off in the USA.
if you are poor subsidized by others incapable of paying for what you need, a parasite to others, then in the USA you still get it for free with medicaid anyway.
That s the problem.
In capitalistic system, you Will always have a bottom 20-25% that suffer.
So all schools, regardless of their performance, are capped on what they can charge per student based on the money allotted by the govt for the student?
I don’t think there should be a cap on what a school charges. Just a cap on what the govt would pay - which should be far less than what it costs the govt per kid at public schools.
If they charge less, are the parents allowed to pocket the money or it goes into a college/trade fund for the kid?
No, it would be just like food stamps: You get $X a month for food so if you don’t spend your whole allowance then you don’t get the money left over in cash.
Inso has interesting opinions on this. It only takes a couple disruptive students to wreck the learning environment for the whole class.
Remember what I said earlier? Schools are going to fight to keep their prices low and education level high. To do this they are going to suspend or kick disruptive kids out. Go to one of the public schools left or try another private one.
I don’t think there should be a cap on what a school charges. Just a cap on what the govt would pay - which should be far less than what it costs the govt per kid at public schools.
No, it would be just like food stamps: You get $X a month for food so if you don’t spend your whole allowance then you don’t get the money left over in cash.
Remember what I said earlier? Schools are going to fight to keep their prices low and education level high. To do this they are going to suspend or kick disrup
At least you're not pretending to try to give low income families a level playing field I guess. In your administration would there be a drop in property tax also? The land owners would be happy but I doubt it would benefit renters.
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At least you're not pretending to try to give low income families a level playing field I guess. In your administration would there be a drop in property tax also? The land owners would be happy but I doubt it would benefit renters.
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The idea that the state has to "level the field" is horrific distopic collectivism (and it isn't in the american constitution among it's duties).
It's already excessively generous to have a state attempting to guarantee a floor for everyone, but "leveling the field" means subsidizing losers with winners money, it means punishing the exact families who are the best in society and provided the most to it (that's what having money means) while rewarding the worst ones.
Redistribution for the sake of redistribution is unadulterated evil, it's the policy of envy as a moral virtue
