Israel/Palestine thread
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Vic, have you figured out how procreation works yet?
the condition of the women is notable bc the pro-Israel side has been telling us for over a year that they have been repeatedly raped and starved. there is a massive campaign in mainstream media and from Israeli social media influencers to claim that some of the captives are pregnant.
in fact, the poster in this very thread who claims to be in the IDF asserted the other day that he has inside info proving that there is a pregnant captive!
So you don’t know how it works?
Look online, your heroes can explain it.
like I said, they should be tried in a court of law and not executed in the street like Israel does to children.
So you concede Hamas are executing people and you claimed before that Hamas were fully justified firing rockets from actual refugee camps, where children would be present, so dunno why you're engaging in sudden professed concern for children now.
Pretty stupid of someone not to realise that when someone joins the army there's always a possibility, and in Israel's case a significant possibility due to its relentless aggression, of ending up a PoW.
I wonder how many civilians including children these four state terrorists would have murdered in cold blood if they hadn't been PoWs.
Hamas didn’t deliberately take hostages based on their past military experience. They rolled up on a music festival and killed indiscriminately. Or I guess those Thai workers were secretly IDF. The one who was beheaded with a shovel must have been Hasbara bot. Absolutely vile post you are disgusting.
Stick to posting obvious Twitter disinfo
Such a smart guy!
So proud of you.
That’s kind of a lot of Hezbollah in a small area, even assuming none of those not confirmed Hezbollah is in fact Hezbollah.
The implication of the article is the damage to Hezbollah isn’t worth the collateral damage but when Hezbollah (even if to a lesser extent than Hamas) intentionally hides military assets among civilians, it is forcing Israel’s hands and deserves at least some of the blame for civilian deaths.
The alternative is Israel cannot defend itself if its adversaries hide behind enough civilians, which is a preposterous position but one many people in this thread seem to hold even if they aren’t willing to admit that’s what their position amounts to.
Hezbollah isn't blowing up apartment buildings full of IDF soldiers or Israeli gov officials. But I guess it would be acceptable and you guys would apply the same standards.
“BREAKING: One of the Palestinian prisoners set to be released today is refusing to leave the jail and says he prefers to stay in Israeli prison than go back to Hamas’ Gaza. He will be replaced with another prisoner.“
Lolz
That’s kind of a lot of Hezbollah in a small area, even assuming none of those not confirmed Hezbollah is in fact Hezbollah.
The implication of the article is the damage to Hezbollah isn’t worth the collateral damage but when Hezbollah (even if to a lesser extent than Hamas) intentionally hides military assets among civilians, it is forcing Israel’s hands and deserves at least some of the blame for civilian deaths.
The alternative is Israel cannot defend itself if its adversaries hide behind enoug
I agree they should be blamed. That in no way excuses israel's actions and it wont help when others use the same 'right of defense' excuse against anywhere there's members of the IDF.
Hamas didn’t deliberately take hostages based on their past military experience. They rolled up on a music festival and killed indiscriminately. Or I guess those Thai workers were secretly IDF. The one who was beheaded with a shovel must have been Hasbara bot. Absolutely vile post you are disgusting.
Stick to posting obvious Twitter disinfo
There are people who frequent this thread who would love to say even more disgusting things about certain people who live in Israel but aren't allowed to. You can sense the frustration in their posts.
Hamas didn’t deliberately take hostages based on their past military experience. They rolled up on a music festival and killed indiscriminately. Or I guess those Thai workers were secretly IDF. The one who was beheaded with a shovel must have been Hasbara bot. Absolutely vile post you are disgusting.
Stick to posting obvious Twitter disinfo
Let me get this straight - Hamas "rolled up on a music festival" and found some soldiers in their pyjamas?
This gets better and better.
Pretty stupid of someone not to realise that when someone joins the army there's always a possibility, and in Israel's case a significant possibility due to its relentless aggression, of ending up a PoW.
I wonder how many civilians including children these four state terrorists would have murdered in cold blood if they hadn't been PoWs.
How many innocent people do you think Hamas would have killed if they could have on Oct 7th?
Probably a lot, and one was far too many.
Damn. Hope the hostages were worth it to them. I would have released them long before it got to that point, but I guess I'm a huge puss. Shout out to your Hamas boys for keeping it real.
They think they’re going to be with Allah in glory if Jews spill their blood, so they do not care what happens in this world. In. Sane.
That’s kind of a lot of Hezbollah in a small area, even assuming none of those not confirmed Hezbollah is in fact Hezbollah.
The implication of the article is the damage to Hezbollah isn’t worth the collateral damage but when Hezbollah (even if to a lesser extent than Hamas) intentionally hides military assets among civilians, it is forcing Israel’s hands and deserves at least some of the blame for civilian deaths.
The alternative is Israel cannot defend itself if its adversaries
Well, this is being reported as the biggest casualty event of the entire war with Lebanon/Hezbollah; which is pretty wild considering how many structures Israel has destroyed. Which means Israel is actually going to great lengths not to kill civilians, and something went wrong here*, which is going to happen in wars.
*Such as Israel meant to just target the apartment the Hezbollah operatives were in and accidentally destroyed the entire structure or they had bad intelligence the structure was empty except for the operatives. Or entire portions of this story as reported aren't true.
As an aside, Hezbollah still hasn't retreated above the Litani River, and the Lebanese army still has not taken control of the territory promised. It seems the Lebanon/Hezbollah playbook is going to be the same as in 2006, where they just refuse to honor the ceasefire, and wait for the whole world to move on. And the position of the rest of the world is indifference towards this.
So it is going to be up to Israel to decide whether the juice is worth the squeeze (in cost to them in manpower/materials and public perception) to continue to stay in Lebanon and root out Hezbollah as best they can. And Trump, who seems pretty indifferent towards Lebanon/Hezbollah honoring the ceasefire, may just order Israel to leave Lebanon regardless, which may be what Lebanon/Hezbollah is planning on.
Well, this is being reported as the biggest casualty event of the entire war, which is pretty wild considering how many structures Israel is destroyed. Which means Israel is actually going to great lengths not to kill civilians, and something went wrong here*, which is going to happen in wars.
*Such as Israel meant to just target the apartment the Hezbollah operatives were in and accidentally destroyed the entire structure or they had bad intelligence the structure was empty except for the opera
Bad things do happen in war but they don't happen if there is no war. Hamas alone has brought this hell upon all of these innocent people. The world owes Israel an apology. They continue to go above and beyond to save innocent lives.
The world doesn't owe Israel anything apart from the arrest of its political and military leaders.
This is why I'm shocked the rest of the world isn't allied with the country that cares about life.
It's mostly simple pragmatism. Much of the Ummah behaves as a geopolitical block to pressure countries to support Islamists over Israel. So given the relative size and economic clout of Israel relative to the Muslim world (especially the energy rich areas) it makes perfect pragmatic sense to support Islamists.
It is actually a testament to the morality and sense of right and wrong of the Western world that Israel is given any support, given the potential costs. This is less true now because the situation has improved with the Sunni gulf states, but for a long time it was very costly to support Israel at all, and much of the Western world still did so.
Bad things do happen in war but they don't happen if there is no war. Hamas alone has brought this hell upon all of these innocent people. The world owes Israel an apology. They continue to go above and beyond to save innocent lives.
Hezbollah and their IRI handlers made a choice to open the Northern front. The war with Lebanon/Hezbollah should not be blamed on Hamas IMO. All members of the Axis of Resistance and their sycophants should be treated with agency, and held responsible for their own belligerence.
