Israel/Palestine thread
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Not surprising, Trump's cabinet is walking the Gaza idea back slowly, lol.
But today I learned that:
-30% of Gazans want to willingly emigrate elsewhere
-The life span in Gaza BEFORE Oct 7th was longer than in Alabama or Mississippi
-HAMAS had and has tight restrictions on letting people leave Gaza. It was not an open air prison, Hamas absolutely made it imperative that very few people leave. That was totally new information to me. They absolutely will try to stop anyone that wants to leave for a safer place.
-The life span in Gaza BEFORE Oct 7th was longer than in Alabama or Mississippi
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we did it Joe!
Not surprising, Trump's cabinet is walking the Gaza idea back slowly, lol.
hmm, what happened to all the chicken slaughter metaphors...
I dont know who NormFinkelstein is, but the idea that Mets would make an alt to come in off the top ropes to argue Israel is acting out of line in the West Bank is pretty ridiculous.
Anyways, my 2c is I think NormFinkelstein was contributing fine in this forum, and should be unbanned.
I think you should show your work on this.
The most deadly conflicts in Africa:
Conquests of Menalik II, 1878-1904, 6 million
Second Congo War, 1998-2003, 5.25 million
Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970, 3-4 million
Ethiopian Civil war, 1961-1991, 2 million
Second Sudanese Civil War, 1983-2005, 1-2 million
Algerian War, 1954-1962, .4-1.2 million
French conquest of Algeria, 1830-1903, 1-1.5 million
Mozambican Civil War, 1977-1992, .5-1 million
First Sudanese Civil War, 1955-1972, .5-1 million
Burundian Civil War
China is just getting started. I am making a prediction about the future. Lets see how the next few decades play out.
China and Russia are fairly active blocking UN resolutions meant to stabilize the region, in favor of supporting military juntas they have favorable relationships with. I dont predict this will work in favor of the people of Africa.
I don't really know, but if you did a survey I would guess that the typical Hamas member hates Jews. It's also my personal experience that more than half of Israeli Jews hate Arabs.
It is almost like making Palestinians permanent refugees generationally, sticking them right on the border of Israel, pumping them with anti-Israel propaganda, refusing to let them leave, and then legitimizing and funding bad actors that perpetuate war to consolidate their own wealth and power is not a recipe for reconciliation. Who knew?