Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Well I ate a ton of bans calling it out. You don't get credit for being right in this life.


So do we believe Trump will actually......take it?


He's got about the same odds as Biden. Maybe less bc his brazen buffoonery has at least caused the Arab states to ostensibly show support for Palestine.

But heres the thing, it not entirely up to [strike]Biden[/strike] Trump. Hamas just got resupplied in a major way.


by rafiki k

So do we believe Trump will actually......take it?

Wouldn’t bet against the US helping displace 2 million Palestinians and then somehow a year from now agreeing to “give” it to Israel.

That or Trump adds it to his portfolio and calls it “Trump Gaza Condominiums”.

Seems like a fun area for Americans to vacay.


by mongidig k

How is kicking squatters/refugees off land they don't own ethnic cleansing?

This is batshit crazy.

They have deeds from the British and Ottomans.

They only rationale for saying it's not Palestinian land is to say God gave it to the Israelis.

No he didn't.


by Bill Haywood k

This is batshit crazy.

They have deeds from the British and Ottomans.

They only rationale for saying it's not Palestinian land is to say God gave it to the Israelis.

No he didn't.

"they have deeds by the ottomans"


by Bill Haywood k

This is batshit crazy.

They have deeds from the British and Ottomans.

They only rationale for saying it's not Palestinian land is to say God gave it to the Israelis.

No he didn't.

We don't know for sure whether God gave it too them or not. This is still a big point of contention.


by NormFinkelstein k

Wouldn’t bet against the US helping displace 2 million Palestinians and then somehow a year from now agreeing to “give” it to Israel.

That or Trump adds it to his portfolio and calls it “Trump Gaza Condominiums”.

Seems like a fun area for Americans to vacay.

People are making removing the Gazans a bad thing. They can't be refugees forever. The area they live in is currently unlivable. Moving to a more sanitary safe place seems like a significant upgrade.

I don't think Americans will want to vacation in Gaza. Maybe some people would like to go see the ruins. I think it will be mostly Israelis visiting there.

This place could have been a beautiful vacation destination years ago. Unfortunately the Gazans invested in terror instead of tourism.


by mongidig k

People are making removing the Gazans a bad thing. They can't be refugees forever. The area they live in is currently unlivable. Moving to a more sanitary safe place seems like a significant upgrade.

I don't think Americans will want to vacation in Gaza. Maybe some people would like to go see the ruins. I think it will be mostly Israelis visiting there.

This place could have been a beautiful vacation destination years ago. Unfortunately the Gazans invested in terror instead of tourism.

Sorry I thought it was implied but I’ll spell it out for you. Trump would first develop it into a beautiful beach front property and then Americans will start to vacation there.

Wasn’t expecting Americans to enjoy a bunch of rubble no. Kinda shocked this had to be explained.

Yes. Removing Gazans, potentially permanently, is a bad thing. It is unliveable atm and they should be part of the rebuild. Looks like that isn’t happening though.


Removing Gazans, potentially permanently, is a bad thing.

I mean, it depends. is genocide good when white people do it? many Westerners think so. thats really all it comes to.


by rafiki k

So do we believe Trump will actually......take it?

I think it will actually cause the opposite. The entire third world will side with Hamas and do everything in their power to keep them in charge of Gaza and keep all the Palestinians in.

Pretty much worst case scenario for Palestinians. Very minimal investment and rebuilding will happen. And no meaningful reform of their society or move towards peace.

And because they are defying the big bad orange man the Palestinian people will actually be happy and content to live in tents and ride donkeys and curse the US and Israel and celebrate their great victory.

If one was inclined to conspiracies they might wonder if that was the goal.

Convince the Palestinians, and the rest of the Ummah and progressive left, they won and to be happy they get to stay in their destroyed hopeless city.

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