Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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We will create an open air prison for this race of people then give them the option of leaving or dying of disease after we've destroyed their hospitals.
It's their choice!
You're being overly dramatic.
It was their choice to attack on Oct 7th. It was their choice to engage in terrorism for the past 80 years. Now it's their choice to make better decisions.
You're being overly dramatic.
It was their choice to attack on Oct 7th. It was their choice to engage in terrorism for the past 80 years. Now it's their choice to make better decisions.
I think we underestimate how much environmental incentive structures influence behavior. The world could have spent the last 80 years doing a much better job incentivizing better behavior. Sadly, instead it is mostly doubling down on promoting antisocial behavior for cynical reasons.
You have to treat people as if they have agency, or the world doesn't work. That being said, we still must recognize environment influences behavior. And the rest of the world has spent the last 80 years incentivizing the Palestinian population to be as antisocial as possible.
I think we underestimate how much environmental incentive structures influence behavior. The world could have spent the last 80 years doing a much better job incentivizing better behavior. Sadly, instead it is mostly doubling down on promoting antisocial behavior for cynical reasons.
You have to treat people as if they have agency, or the world doesn't work. That being said, we still must recognize environment influences behavior. And the rest of the world has spent the last 80 years incentiv
With all the money the world has given them it has incentivized them not to improve their circumstances.
--At this point I would say Hamas may intentionally be making Palestinians look as horrible as possible so that no one will take them. What sane nation would ever willingly bring in people that act like this and revel in their own depravity?
The sad thing is that this kind of behavior is probably perfectly acceptable to a good chunk of the world. I dont think we can really underestimate how so much of the world operates on a tribal, zero sum level; where "the other" is completely dehumanized.
What are you talking about? Vic said the Israeli hostages were treated well.
These men released today looked like Holocaust survivors. Like the actual Holocaust, not the fake gaza one.
It’s clear Hamas, in their sick ways, released the relatively healthy hostages first. And it worked in convincing stupid people that they treated the Israeli hostages “well.”
people are starving in a starvation zone. shocker.
didnt Israel say that Sinwar hadnt eaten for 3 days?
With all the money the world has given them it has incentivized them not to improve their circumstances.
Yes. First and foremost the Palestine liberation movement is a grift (for the people in charge) and the world keeps rewarding the grifters, to the detriment of everyone else.
But because of zero sum tribalism and propaganda efforts most of the world is perfectly fine with this, including the Palestinians themselves, so it is what it is.
No reason to expect anything will change.
Wouldn’t be surprising. As you said, at the end he stayed near the surface to lead the fight and is super recognizable, so not like he could get in a bread line.
His 5 man (and woman) Jewish hostage shield basically starved to death and were executed when they became too emaciated to walk.
But 99% of hamas members could just blend into the population, live in the camps, steal aid trucks, and be well fed. Which is what happened.
Which is why despite all the rhetoric there was no one widespread evidence of starving people other than Israeli hostages.
His 5 man (and woman) Jewish hostage shield basically starved to death and were executed when they became too emaciated to walk.
they werent his human shield. thats stupid bc Israel had no problems killing their own POWs and hostages and it really appears they purposefully hunted and targeted many of the captives.
they were executed when the IDF got close. this was done to prevent another Nuseirat where the IDF, likely in conjunction with Western special ops, massacred like 300 people. the streets were just lined with dead civilians and the Israelis proudly posted videos just executing every person they saw.
This famous Star Trek episode from 1969 (I remember seeing it, in black-and-white, ironically enough), was supposed to be about American politics, but of course the implications go further.
they werent his human shield. thats stupid bc Israel had no problems killing their own POWs and hostages and it really appears they purposefully hunted and targeted many of the captives.
they were executed when the IDF got close. this was done to prevent another Nuseirat where the IDF, likely in conjunction with Western special ops, massacred like 300 people. the streets were just lined with dead civilians and the Israelis proudly posted videos just executing every person they saw.
So it's Israel's fault that Hamas executed hostages!
Lmao starvation zone.
Wild that most of the forum has shunned Victor for obvious reasons but he’s allowed to take a crap on this thread day in and day out.
maybe call up the ICC and tell them to rescind the warrants for starvtion.
BUT THEYRE HAMAS!
"go on home Israeli soldiers go on home..."
corpus you know that tune right?
at some point, never thought I would see them leave Gaza and the Netzarim. I always admit when I am wrong and was clearly mistaken about that one. go on home Israeli soldier.
Considering the ICC is a braindead, anti-Semitic organization,
We don’t need any articles for this. Every video shows us the palestinians aren’t starving.
I could post some pictures of people not starving but then I would get banned
Go ahead. But be sure to crop out the perfectly well-fed Gazans from the background.
