Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k
Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k
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Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV

nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4)

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by WotPeed m

Which is a physical impossibility given the stakes he plays and a finite lifetime, even if he magically turned into a winning player overnight. Sad.

I have a friend who's a degenerate sports gambler and we always joke that his tombstone will read "I just need to get back to even". Even he realizes that it's not possible.

That's what the OP will never see and unless his mentality changes to "if I stop then on day one I am even" if he can do that, in two years he will achieve his stated aim of winning $16k.

He has ignored all of that because of addiction and no small amount of ego. It is distressing to hear how he justifies certain plays as they feed his narrative and as long as that continues everyone else is just noise to him.

Wishing you luck again Paisting, the $16k is within your grasp, just delete all poker and gambling related items and in two years come back here and we will have a laugh together.


Nice try to total change the subject what we are really talking about here. But I can tell I'm not going to stop show this to you all what is going on.

The month is not even half way and this is what is looks like.


That alone is $100+ that should be on my account and that would be enough to close the month and show winning graph but no.

These hands are just from yesterdays session

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

ikeeps (UTG): $10.10 (101 bb)
Sebas66438 (MP): $21.39 (214 bb)
SamZambory (CO): $7.22 (72 bb)
gulimapk (BU): $13.25 (133 bb)
Paisting (SB): $10.00 (100 bb)
Johanuta (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with T T
2 players fold, SamZambory (CO) raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), 1 fold, SamZambory (CO) calls $7.02 (all-in)

Flop: ($14.54) 9 4 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($14.54) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($14.54) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $14.54 (Rake: $0.73)

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows T T (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

SamZambory (CO) shows 2 2 (three of a kind, Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

SamZambory (CO) wins $13.81

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

FBsplynter (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Revilox90 (MP): $9.28 (93 bb)
DanPalmar (CO): $9.11 (91 bb)
Johanuta (BU): $13.03 (130 bb)
Paisting (SB): $10.25 (103 bb)
Dreamrace (BB): $13.11 (131 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with Q Q
1 fold, Revilox90 (MP) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Johanuta (BU) 3-bets to $0.90, Paisting (SB) 4-bets to $10.25 (all-in), 2 players fold, Johanuta (BU) calls $9.35

Flop: ($20.90) 8 J 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($20.90) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.90) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.90 (Rake: $1.17)

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Johanuta (BU) shows 8 8 (four of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

Johanuta (BU) wins $19.73

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players

foggz (UTG): $25.67 (257 bb)
ikeeps (CO): $10.10 (101 bb)
bitru666 (BU): $10.00 (100 bb)
Jasppe (SB): $10.60 (106 bb)
Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with 5 3
3 players fold, Jasppe (SB) raises to $0.30, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $1.20, Jasppe (SB) calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.40) K 6 2 (2 players)
Jasppe (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $1.92, Jasppe (SB) calls $1.92

Turn: ($6.24) 4 (2 players)
Jasppe (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $6.88 (all-in), Jasppe (SB) calls $6.88

River: ($20) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
Paisting (BB) shows 5 3 (a straight, Two to Six)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 77%, River: 0%)

Jasppe (SB) shows 2 2 (a full house, Twos full of Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 23%, River: 100%)

Jasppe (SB) wins $19

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

ikeeps (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb)
Johanuta (MP): $16.63 (166 bb)
kontimir (CO): $8.90 (89 bb)
Jacks_Joker (BU): $10.45 (105 bb)
Paisting (SB): $10.00 (100 bb)
Jasppe (BB): $20.55 (206 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with Q J
3 players fold, Jacks_Joker (BU) raises to $0.20, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $1.40, Jasppe (BB) 4-bets to $3.50, 1 fold, Paisting (SB) calls $2.10

Flop: ($7.20) 7 8 Q (2 players)
Paisting (SB) bets $6.50 (all-in), Jasppe (BB) calls $6.50

Turn: ($20.20) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.20) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.20 (Rake: $1.01)

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows Q J (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%)

Jasppe (BB) shows A K (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%)

Jasppe (BB) wins $19.19

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

Unknown335 (UTG): $1.36 (14 bb)
Sebas66438 (MP): $29.61 (296 bb)
Dilananwar87 (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
lowrider1000 (BU): $4.00 (40 bb)
shakebebe (SB): $8.19 (82 bb)
Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with A T
4 players fold, shakebebe (SB) raises to $0.40, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), shakebebe (SB) calls $7.79 (all-in)

Flop: ($16.38) 3 Q 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($16.38) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($16.38) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $16.38 (Rake: $0.82)

Showdown:
Paisting (BB) shows A T (two pair, Queens and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 86%, River: 50%)

shakebebe (SB) shows A 7 (two pair, Queens and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 14%, River: 50%)

Paisting (BB) wins $7.78
shakebebe (SB) wins $7.78

This is definitely not normal. I lose every hand where I have massive equity. I lose over 60% of hands where I have 50% equity. Also the big pairs got this kind of boards against total whales.

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

Sebas66438 (UTG): $11.71 (117 bb)
Snooker19377 (MP): $16.53 (165 bb)
MarceloCG33 (CO): $24.62 (246 bb)
Paisting (BU): $10.30 (103 bb)
benimaci (SB): $12.69 (127 bb)
Khalad111111 (BB): $3.30 (33 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with Q Q
Sebas66438 (UTG) raises to $0.20, 2 players fold, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 2 players fold, Sebas66438 (UTG) calls $1

Flop: ($2.55) 6 9 3 (2 players)
Sebas66438 (UTG) bets $1.27, Paisting (BU) raises to $9.10 (all-in), Sebas66438 (UTG) calls $7.83

Turn: ($20.75) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.75) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.75 (Rake: $1.04)

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

Sebas66438 (UTG) shows T 8 (a flush, Jack high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

Sebas66438 (UTG) wins $19.71

Now the question for you all who still saying it's normal to lose 20-30 buy ins per month to suckouts every month many years in row. I lose hands with big equity, with 50% equity and with little equity lead as opposite whales win on those games with small equity and when they have 50% equity or when that have little but under 50% equity.

What are the exact hands that I supposed to make money with? This question needs to be answered with high detail when you say this is all normal.


And the madness continues, I' ve had it at this stage and this will be the last time I post here, please just answer this question for everyone.

What makes you special to 888? or put another way, why single you out? What makes you unique in 888s view that they supposedly pick on you? Even if your English is bad you should be able to understand one of those.

You have chosen your path of self destruction and the result is inevitable.

GL my friend wish you and everyone here the best.


"I lose over 60% of hands where I have 50% equity." may be a new favorite! nice.

do you ever win when you have less than 50% equity? do you always lose those too?


by MarkDavis m

What makes you special to 888? or put another way, why single you out? What makes you unique in 888s view that they supposedly pick on you?

I've pointed this out many times. It also comes down to that question what sites can nowadays do to make whales comes back and play more. One of the big poker authors discussed about it couple of years ago there is podcast about it.

Sites want to keep whales happy. If they go broke soon after they enter the site they won't come back. But if they win they will play more and maybe at some point try to go higher stakes. What is the way to keep them happy and keep them playing? Giving them feeling of success. They might think they made right move and win because of that or they know they can't really play at all but still they can win. Some of them might recognise that they are teribad players but still have enough luck to win.

So how does player like me destroying that all? Let's think about what kind player I am. I've been playing these lowest stakes for years without any intention of moving up. My main goal is to make profit on these stakes forever just to stacking those players we just talked about. There are really few or not at all players like these intentions who play so much like I do. What I do on those tables? I spot really quickly those players and put myself in the position where I'm really quickly against them with big equity. 15 minutes is enough for me to put those players lose a lot or broke if they won't suck out.

I'm the player type they really don't want to those tables for a long time. They maybe want players who play for a while and stacking enough those whales to go up stakes. If we now think that basic thing what keeps these games going and new players happy player type like me is totally destroying that all. There is the motive to do anything it takes to keep the whales happy.


Paisting if you knew someone who lost nearly a quarter million dollars over 20 years at the lowest stakes on the internet would you consider them a whale?


So any game paisting is in, pocket 2's become the mortal nuts. I want to play with paisting so bad.


by MastaAces m

"I lose over 60% of hands where I have 50% equity." may be a new favorite! nice.

do you ever win when you have less than 50% equity? do you always lose those too?

Uh yeah, it's simple math, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take


As a matter of fact, you play way more big pots as an underdog. you're getting it in AT vs A7 is just a byproduct of your constant pushing J6o, 74o type hands, what you think is a good play versus wHaLEs. Until you understand how much EV you burn with those kind of plays, your case is dead, you can't make positive EV-line.

by Paisting m

I've pointed this out many times. It also comes down to that question what sites can nowadays do to make whales comes back and play more.

Sites want to keep whales happy. If they go broke soon after they enter the site they won't come back.

Ever looked in a mirror?
You wrore paragraphs how you always go back and deposit again, you bragged about making 50 deposits monthly. Are you happy?

by Paisting m

Let's think about what kind player I am.

😃 😃


by enzet m

you can't make positive EV-line.

You didn't answer my question. What are those hands that makes positive EV line? Remember lots of my best hands get destroyed on flops. Like when I have AA whale has set so often it's total not possible to achive. When you look those hands you see that games are really favouring whales. Also look those board. It's almost hilarious when cards are turned up and whale has just random crap but you can be sure the board starts to develop so on turn he has massive amount of outs.


You ignore 90% of all questions you are asked. Why?


by Paisting m

You didn't answer my question. What are those hands that makes positive EV line? Remember lots of my best hands get destroyed on flops. Like when I have AA whale has set so often it's total not possible to achive. When you look those hands you see that games are really favouring whales. Also look those board. It's almost hilarious when cards are turned up and whale has just ran

Do you consider yourself as a whale Paisting? Because your losing rate 70BB per 100 hand suggests it


by blazar m

Do you consider yourself as a whale Paisting? Because your losing rate 70BB per 100 hand suggests it

When you have seen me limping and then calling? When you seen me raising 2.5x just to call 12x 3bet?


by Paisting m

When you have seen me limping and then calling? When you seen me raising 2.5x just to call 12x 3bet?



by Paisting m

When you have seen me limping and then calling? When you seen me raising 2.5x just to call 12x 3bet?

those are not the ONLY indicators that one is a whale


by ejames209 m

those are not the ONLY indicators that one is a whale

Maybe not. But indicators that only whales do.

Immediate green tag and punish punish punish.

And the you look mouth open how whale puts runner runner runner flush on board and wins money.


by Paisting m

You didn't answer my question.

Maybe the funniest thing Paistings has posted so far


by Paisting m

Immediate green tag and punish punish punish.

Lmao who the **** talks like this. No wonder you've figured nothing out.


by Paisting m

Maybe not. But indicators that only whales do.

Immediate green tag and punish punish punish.

And the you look mouth open how whale puts runner runner runner flush on board and wins money.

You lose at like 70bb/100 over millions of hands. You aren't punishing anyone but yourself.


by PenspinningG m

his mental illness is on another level lmfao

I wanted to get this in front just in case someone new to 2+2 like me missed this. This is the funniest chat log I have ever read. It might even be a great idea to make this chat log screenshot a sticky on top of every page in threads started by Paisting. This chat log pic will be able to get anyone up to speed on the legend of Paisting.


Paisting, do you know other players the site(s) have been rigged against? Why do you think they're targetting you (and possible others) in particular?


by Keruli m

Paisting, do you know other players the site(s) have been rigged against? Why do you think they're targetting you (and possible others) in particular?

Its just him. In his warped brain he thinks there's a target on his back because he's doing the lord's work of "exposing these hoax sites" by posting a couple of hand histories where he got 3 outed.

If the mods here cared whatsoever about mental health they would have shut this thread down years ago but instead this jackass is free to yell into the void and further his delusions more and more every day.

Then again if the thread did get shut down, Paisting would then be validated in his belief that there is some grand conspiracy against him, so there's really nothing that can be done to stop his insanity from getting worse and worse.


by Blind Burglar m

I wanted to get this in front just in case someone new to 2+2 like me missed this. This is the funniest chat log I have ever read. It might even be a great idea to make this chat log screenshot a sticky on top of every page in threads started by Paisting. This chat log pic will be able to get anyone up to speed on the legend of Paisting.

he'll never make another thread as long as this one is kept open. claiming that 2+2 owes him for bringing traffic to this site, thus netting them money, is one of the things he does from time to time. this thread makes him feel like a celebrity and his ego just keeps on growing for each post ITT. it doesn't matter that 100% of the readers know he's a whale and knows nothing about playing profitable poker. he's a superstar!

it's a really funny chatlog for sure, but it saddens me to be reminded that Paisting is a racist. "shovel more stinky ruski (brown = i assume it is slang for the N word)" is not OK. repeatedly calling everyone r*t*d*ed is also out of line.

Paisting, if you're going to be a top tier lolcow at least do it on webcam so you can earn a lot of money and entertain your fans. why aren't you seriously entertaining this idea? you'd have A LOT of viewers thus making $$$ which enables you to punish your blind stealers even harder.


by MastaAces m

he'll never make another thread as long as this one is kept open. claiming that 2+2 owes him for bringing traffic to this site, thus netting them money, is one of the things he does from time to time. this thread makes him feel like a celebrity and his ego just keeps on growing for each post ITT. it doesn't matter that 100% of the readers know he's a whale and knows nothing abo

Good points which i missed,i therefore retract my comments wishing him the best of luck. Calling people downs syndrome also not cool along with above. Go **** yourself paisting instead of good luck, keep losing 1k+ per month you abusive racist abusive fool. live in your weird world of delusion forever until you die alone which you absolutely 100% are going to do despite all (now ended) efforts people here. I may even switch to 888 to speed up the process for you.


by Snowstorm m

posting a couple of hand histories where he got 3 outed.

Maybe you need to count those again from last 2 years every month (posted to this topic) or you have little odd definition for couple.

by MastaAces m

it's a really funny chatlog for sure, but it saddens me to be reminded that Paisting is a racist. "shovel more stinky ruski (brown = i assume it is slang for the N word)" is not OK. repeatedly calling everyone r*t*d*ed is also out of line.

If you look and listen what kind of language many streamers use and many of them getting paid by site you find very much talking that is not ok.

In fact there hasn't been chat on 888 for years and long time before that the russian players were banned. And in fact I made a lot complaints about their playing because of collusion and attacking Krim.

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