[Global Poker] Official Discussion Thread

Depends on EV of your last 2-3 tournaments, yeah. You will manage that, man, it's easy ))
So how else could they equalize players in cash games and tournaments to take the max commission? The only way - they put you on AQo on a buble after several profitable 70% allins. And your opponent "accidently" gets AK on BB. Watch out! ))

Btw, take a look, what happens when some joking guy goes all-in having 73o. What is his next hand? AJ, AK? Have fun playing online "poker"!

Several rooms are working this way. Including the biggest one (yes, that room who takes regular players off with the same hand AA closer to high prizes on Sunday Million 😃)
I can just guess it works the same way on Global. You push Ace High - you fold the next Ace High.

Says your location is Russia. Why do you even care about an American/Canadian site?

we're doomed

Haha, well. In fact, guys, I just wanna do what I can to stop this fooling people all over the word. When I played online seriously I spoke with a crazy number of players (amateurs/regulars) asked their opinions about what is going on, sharing my observations.

Pokerstars, Partypoker... Played against huge number of guys from Canada btw )) Cool times!

I'm not going to waste too much time, but will try to share what I know about a card dealing process in online "poker" gaming. Will players manage to get some ideas? I don't know, and should i worry? I'm a tennis coach! The life is not infinite, hope to manage some results in sports before it's not too late 😀

please don't procreate

edit: to all you claiming rigged blah blah with no evidence, ^^^ this guy ^^^ is what you sound like. don't be like this guy.

Well, looks like a pretty significant evidence! Man, what i saw on a postflop with all the cards opened in iPoker (I managed to open opponent's hands in heads-ups) happens once in 8,5 trillion hands. And 10 countries are overviewing it 😀

https://twoplustwo.com/Discussion-of-Pok...

In fact, I simply explain all the software algorithm in iPoker net. From start to the end. Fresh news, lol ))

One of the players I used to play with a lot on global, but haven't seen in awhile posted this thread on reddit. (The same guy who did the 1,000 Jackpot SNGs)

Link to reddit post here.

The user appears to have been banned from reddit since posting. This player is actually decent, and when I was hyper focusing tournaments, he was hitting final table enough times that I noticed him. The player alleges that the action in cash games is drying up, then continues his thoughts with the following.

I'm interested in others thoughts on this, because starting the same time period he mentions (summer), I did notice I was getting a lot less action. I figured people or a botnet figured out how I play and simply countered me. People began folding to my raises a lot more often; so in return I bluffed more, (Not effective for long term gain, nor does it induce them to open wider - they simply wait to have it, then reraise/collect pot). I've also noticed the limpers with premiums is increasing as the user claimed. The only adjustment I've found that seems to work is to tighten up as opposed to loosening up and bluffing more which breaks even.

Anyone else notice similar? Any ideas as to what's going on? Is it simply a nitfest as user alleged?

Pretty much. The site has always been a fairly closed ecosystem made up of mostly bad, mostly older players, many of whom came directly from ads on Facebook. It sustained itself for awhile, but over time the worst players went broke for the last time and left and never got replaced by equally bad players. Many of the existing players who were small winners became small losers because they played in a very static way that didn't work anymore but they never realized that so they started saying that they were being cheated. Add to that many of the rewards got replaced with programs that gave more money to less people, and streamers publicizing the site to a player base that was more competent than the average player, and the site is slowly losing it's luster. The games are still soft but not like they used to be and without a massive marketing push there's no reason to think that the downward trend won't continue.

Many of the weaker players have greatly improved in the past 6 months or so I'd say. And yeah, it's a bit of a nitfest. Still the GOAT non-segregated site.

Interesting and insightful. Do you think global poker is going to go offline? I keep reading articles about them losing legality in some states, and I've read the various threads regarding sweepstakes laws which seem to indicate the company isn't operating in the legal grey area people think they are. The RNG certification hasn't been recertified in years as well.

I don't know if I'm way off base, but it seems like consensus is that global will shut down shop within the next few years barring some unexpected event or series of events. That said; when I play there, it doesn't feel nearly as doom and gloom as all the threads make it out to be, so I really don't know up from down on this one.

this is very well said and pretty much happening everywhere. and this is how it works. losers lose, stop playing. can't lose forever. winners either keep getting better and keep winning or stagnate and start losing. until the next boom it's a never-ending shrinking pie. and that next boom could be a very long time from now. the end.

circling back I don't get this. they've respected the authority of states that have threatened litigation to this point. federally I don't see hardly any businesses getting prosecuted for operating illegally that aren't directly stepping on some specific toes for the next ~4 years for quite obvious reasons. your state may get axed as legal Igaming spreads and more states want a slice of the pie, but other than that...

"The amount of players limp/calling AQs/AK 100 big blinds deep from everywhere, including the button, is staggering."
Exactly the same goes for iPoker net.

"I'm playing in a tournament right now where there are 16 people left and the average stack is 9.5 blinds, and still people are limping in with hands like AQ! I just played this hand on the stone cold bubble where half the table, including multiple double-digit stacks, wouldn't even risk 0.01 blinds to knock this player forced-all-in out and end the tournament."

The same also goes for iPoker net.
Yes, this is crazy when you play Double or nothing SnG and someone folds 1/20 of the pot not to take a short stack off the table to win a game. And this helps the software to distribute chips between players so that each player would win 45%-55% of games and all the deposits converts into the rooms commission.

Me personally - I have to call short stacks having garbage, because I see some "genius" player on BB who will most-likely fold his hand in stead of calling 1/20 of the pot, lol. In case I don't call having garbage - a short stack becomes a chip-leader due to extremely high blinds in the end of a turbo-SnG.

That is not a good argument, i don't know about second half of the comment, but first half is a very bad argument that instills imagery of a drug dealer saying 'I stopped once the cops told me they'd come for me'. I know that's not a 1:1 thing, but that's what comes to mind when I read the first half of your comment.

While I have no idea if they will be shut down due to a legal standpoint (I think probably not), when I said consensus seems they will shut down, I meant due to loss of players over the long term. Complaints are all along the same lines among the player base. With many players who have left stating similar reasons such as bonanzas being taken away.

I don't think it's absurd to suggest they could remain open indefinitely, but they'd need harsher security checks, crack down on multi accounts, and likely it would be mandatory to bring back bonanzas and advertising on FB, x, etc. (Based on all users complaints). They'd likely need to anonymize the pool like ignition does, and reshuffle folded hands back into the deck to eliminate the effectiveness of collusion. There is so much work that would need be done (albeit, very easy changes to make), that I don't think they actually will do any of it. I think they'll live and die on the original idea behind the site and never upgrade towards a more traditional and feature rich website. (HH's that are more extensive, anonymous tables, reshuffling dead cards in, run it twice features/rabbit hunt features, etc)

Players are going to be flocking towards feature rich sites vs global poker which has stagnated.

You were saying this under your old banned handle Lucy's Fur now your still saying it under this "new" account you created. Do you not have anything else to do? Perhaps a hobby like gaming? Just leave "rigged" Global to the players who wanna play on it. You and the Russian dude should just talk on discord.

How did you get it?
To be fair i didn't notice AnonMuffinFckr = Lucy's Fur. Is it possible to check this somewhere?
Lloyd, excuse me, i just take a small part here. Because we are all sitting in the same sandbox. It's interesting what people discuss here. I don't even read Pokerstars, nor Partypoker's threads. If i wanted to reach some "special" aims, i would go there 😀

There's no reason to think that Global will go offline. It's part of a multi-billion dollar public company, even if Global broke even it would still have value to VGW as a product that introduces a non-zero number of players to their more profitable offerings (slots). Them pulling out of states is likely due to the lobbying of legal sites who don't want interlopers in their new market, unless poker gets legalized on a national level I don't see anything happening on that front to negatively affect Global.

Got an email saying I'm banned when i did nothing wrong. No specific reason stated. I've been asking for 2 weeks if they're going to pay me nobody will answer. What do I do in this situation? I have over $1000 that I earned grinding tournaments. Has anyone agreed to their arbitration process and is it legit or just another scam?

There was a ban wave based on what I've read online across multiple forums. I saw multiple people state they had over 10,000 in their accounts when their accounts got banned. I assume based on everything I've read recently; that these users were botting, using an external tool, or sending in too many sweeps requests.

I assume their arbitration process will favor them by a large margin. I'm not entirely sure how valid the clause is within their TOS. I'd like to think there is a legal loophole to hold them liable within NA region, and without having to jump through the hoops they setup, but IDK. I seem to recall steam was forced to drop arbitration clause from their TOS because of a strategy that involved recruiting thousands of people to file for arbitration. By doing this, they effectively would cost steam a quarter billion dollars, and so steam said 'handle it through the court system, we're dropping the arbitration clause'.

If you cheated, I'd not even bother going to arbitration. They likely have proof. Even if you didn't, I'm kind of shocked with how large the bans have been (allegedly). They don't refund players who got cheated, so it's kind of in their interest to catch people cheating and pocket the funds. I'd be interested to see where the line is. At what point do they say 'well, he came close enough to cheating, at least to the extent we can justify banning his or her account and taking the funds'. When there is a financial incentive for them to ban users, it does make me question if the users actually cheated.

I don't blame you if you're skeptical, I know most people who come here complaining about bans are actually cheating in some way. All I can do is swear on my life that I was not. As a matter of fact, I am down several thousand on Global lifetime and have never once withdrawn.

I did send in some sweeps requests but not that many. Maybe like 200? And it was about 6 months ago and they all got credited so I doubt it's that.

You're in a rough spot, because I also play video games that have ban waves, and when they do - Same thing. People claim they didn't cheat. It's impossible for us to know as external observers. That said, an awful lot of people are claiming to have their funds confiscated, and an awful lot of people have quit the site over the past year. Even streamers who do so on GP's behalf have made remarks about potentially quitting the website.

From where I sit on the sidelines, it seems a storm is brewing. When you look at all data points, *something* is going on. I can only guess as to what though.

1.) They are cracking down on cheaters.

2.) They are cracking down on AMOE abusers (mail in sweeps peoples)

3.) They are trying to overcome losses accumulated by state wide bans. (Unwise, and improbable)

4.) They made a mistake and inappropriately flagged a bunch of accounts that were actually on the up and up. (Highly Plausible)

There is something going on, but we'd be a fool to select any given explanation as fact. My gut feeling is that a rug pull is coming in some form or another. The reasoning behind this is the number of users claiming they were taken for thousands upon thousands of dollars by the website itself. The logical counter argument is 'those users were cheating'. The logical counter argument to that is 'why isn't GP redistributing confiscated funds to affected accounts?'. The logical counter counter argument to that is 'because they can get away with simply keeping it. People will still play.' The counter counter counter argument is 'but people aren't still playing, they are bleeding users as per the forums and known regs who state as much'.

I don't know. That's my final verdict. I don't know why you were banned, but I am concerned you may have been unjustly banned, but I'm naive and stupid. I tend to believe people when they say they didn't cheat, because I don't cheat myself.

I appreciate you leaning towards believing me, it's more than I expect on here. I've been asking them if they plan to pay me for weeks now they refuse to acknowledge it.

Can we please add rakeback to the Jackpot SNG's? Just like the other SNG's.
This would incentive more traffic for them. And potentially add a $25 Jackpot. They are high rake games with 0% RB

BEWARE - Colluders in PLO running rampant.

Classic whipsawing, and while effective, play them as if they are hyper aggro maniacs, you will find success. (Let them bet into you, don't try bluffing them, thin for value, leave table if too much trouble)

There are solid hyper aggro players in PLO; don't mistake those players for these other guys. GP won't do anything even if you report them. Just be aware they are out there and making it blatant. When and if they start doing it in higher stakes, they'll be busted (if they remain as blatant). At low stakes, it's basically a lawless jungle.

I've seen them take hundreds in 30 minutes from a table at lowest stakes, and usually from the fish. I see regs holding their own against them. I've also seen regs stomp them, only to have them turn around and begin whipsawing every single hand. One observation I had is that they usually whipsaw starting at flop. When they are stacked by a reg, they start doing it preflop. Do not be fooled into thinking they are fish tilting, they are not. They're forcing people to put more chips in to see flop, knowing both of them are going to keep raising until the mark is out of the hand.

They bank on the fact that most times they will induce a fold. When they can't induce a fold, they know they have a better chance than their mark of winning the hand. (2 sets of 4 cards vs 1 set of 4 cards). Now it's a break even proposition going all in vs one other player over the long haul...but, because they can induce folds, all that folded equity is theirs, and it's way more than you would ever think possible. these guys take hundreds in less than an hour at lowest stakes. Regs give them a hard time, but the printing off weaker players is unparalleled.