Israel/Palestine thread
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There are Arabs in coalition with the Kurds in Rojava. I'm not saying zero Arabs were thrown anywhere, but by and large they weren't.
I understand the situation is more complex than can be described in a one sentence post.
But the larger point is that most of the people outraged at Israel “colonialism” are conspicuously indifferent to plenty of similar situations (some much worse), putting to question how good faith their purported concerns are.
Wait, what is the coles on Lebanon that Dunyain said? I missed it.
If it's that they are Iranian partial proxies torn up from the inside by that extreme Muslim influence, and that eventually turned them into a failed state, that is the unequivocal truth. And many big respected non-partisan organizations have published works on this. We can introduce them, they're as factual as they come.
That is literally exactly what happened to Lebanon.
I didnt make any claim against you. I am not sure what coordi is talking about and if its directed at me then he is misinterpreting my post.
I was just looking for confirmation on the translate and some insight into who this guy is. he seems pretty popular really
regardless of his popularity, it seems weird to go on national media and brag about war crimes and try to incite genocide. doesnt sound like he got any pushback for these remarks but maybe Blue c
A different post that the mod sadly deleted. The poster that keeps calling me a child murderer.
Wait, what is the coles on Lebanon that Dunyain said? I missed it.
If it's that they are Iranian partial proxies torn up from the inside by that extreme Muslim influence, and that eventually turned them into a failed state, that is the unequivocal truth. And many big respected non-partisan organizations have published works on this. We can introduce them, they're as factual as they come.
That is literally exactly what happened to Lebanon.
The Shah was in power in Iran for the first four years of the civil war in Lebanon. Maybe cause and effect goes the other way a little bit.
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The person being attacked is ofer levi.
The Shah was in power in Iran for the first four years of the civil war in Lebanon. Maybe cause and effect goes the other way a little bit.
Whatever happened 1975-1979 (where the PLO was the primary mischief maker), Hezbollah and through them the IRGC have been major players in the country since 1982; and this 40 year period has gone extremely poorly for Lebanon. And there is no reason to expect things to improve as long as Hezbollah and the IRGC retain such control and influence.
--In other news Ukraine has officially chastised Israel for voting with the US and Russia to oppose a UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
I dont claim to have any idea what is in the Netanyahu administrations "heart," but clearly for good or bad they have tied their wagon to Trump, and dont really have any choice in the matter. Trump is exactly the kind of person who would take it very personally and look to punish Israel if they got out of line here.
So Ukraine chastising them seems unnecessary and counterproductive, especially considering Ukraine has voted against Israel in the UN something like 100 times as part of various UN resolutions condemning Israel's behavior over the years.
It should also be noted that in the first couple years of the Ukraine war Israel sent war materials to Ukraine at the behest of the Biden administration. So it seems again, for good or bad, under the current world politic dynamics when it comes to foreign affairs Israel is more or less obliged to support whoever the US President is at the time.
in which Western media picks up on a story that was known for a year and denied by most on this forum. yes they are doing tons of torture and targeting doctors.
--In other news Ukraine has officially chastised Israel for voting with the US and Russia to oppose a UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
I dont claim to have any idea what is in the Netanyahu administrations "heart," but clearly for good or bad they have tied their wagon to Trump, and dont really have any choice in the matter. Trump is exactly the kind of person who would take it very personally and look to punish Israel if they got out of line here.
So Ukraine chastising the
Cut off all funding to Ukraine. Cut the US civilians a bigger check. Maybe send a few more MOAB's Israel's way. Let the Europeans pay for the war if they are so afraid of Russia.
in which Western media picks up on a story that was known for a year and denied by most on this forum. yes they are doing tons of torture and targeting doctors.
It's hard to believe the stories of once detained terrorists.
weird that Israel would detain terrorists for months and then release them without charges.
why is that weird? thats how Western Supremacists have always acted. since like Roman times.
amazing that anyone believed Israel on this one. the family sure didnt.
It's pathetic how many times you have to fall back on the "You're anti-Semitic if you criticise Israel" routine.
Great, you got yourself a nice little ethno-state made for you before the world woke up to what a bad idea that might be. You should be grateful there aren't strict UN sanctions applied to Israel, if not worse. Look what they did when Iraq under Saddam broke UN resolutions and count yourselves lucky to have the west as co-respondents in your war crimes.
Speaking of pathetic. It's time to realize that your side has taken a beating for 80 years. It's obvious that you folks are jealous of the success Israel has achieved. Perhaps if you did it the right way you too would have a "ethno-state. Jealousy isn't gonna get you anywhere. Instead of continuing to play the part of victim you should look into the mirror and take accountability for where you are at.
Israel was and is a good idea. Look at how successful it is compared to its neighbors.
Just goes to show that USAID can do good
Israel was and is a good idea. Look at how successful it is compared to its neighbors.
Yeah it's like an international crisis generator fueled by racist hatred. Such a great idea. The best idea since you know the thing. I wasn't born yet but I heard the oil embargo in the 70s was a hoot.
Tony Soprano was doing better than his neighbors so the mafia is another good idea. White people are doing better than the descendants of slaves, so slavery was a good idea. You must think these are good arguments. You clearly believe might is right. Whoever has the least humanity is the better of all others is what you are saying.
Yeah it's like an international crisis generator fueled by racist hatred. Such a great idea. The best idea since you know the thing. I wasn't born yet but I heard the oil embargo in the 70s was a hoot.
Tony Soprano was doing better than his neighbors so the mafia is another good idea. White people are doing better than the descendants of slaves, so slavery was a good idea. You must think these are good arguments. You clearly believe might is right. Whoever has the least humanity is the better of
So the idea Jews should and can have their own state, is comparable to slavery and the Mafia?
No that’s not what he’s saying. DBF said that “doing better than your neighbours” is justification for whatever you are. Deuces then gave a couple of examples of people “doing better than their neighbours” to show what a stupid definition DBFs was.
No that’s not what he’s saying. DBF said that “doing better than your neighbours” is justification for whatever you are. Deuces then gave a couple of examples of people “doing better than their neighbours” to show what a stupid definition DBFs was.
I understood him perfectly. He chose those examples not in a vacuum, but as a similar power dynamics like israel
Jal, you have to understand that we you,Vic and company are transparent.
You insist on comparing Israel to the worst and most evil atrocities in human history.
The anti western anti "imperialism" shtick was cool when you were 15. As an adult it's sad. Really sad
