Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
You seem confused about pain, luxury, and politics. It’s the people who only have a casual relationship to pain that can afford to live in the political illusion.
Politics is a necessary aspect of reality. Still, one cannot impose their will on reality in any lasting way through the political, no matter how much money or power you have access to.
I don't think t_d is confused, but if he is, this inscrutable post almost certainly did nothing to alleviate his confusion.
hey i just realized coordi's been mod for a few days now without any threads that i'm aware of calling him the next iteration of hitler
so congrats on sunrunning your first few days in office or your amazing gestapo skills at quietly shutting down dissent
I never said anything about whether I was ever confused by reality. I have claimed to be confused almost always by your posts.
That’s the point. You’ve probably stated this about my posts 5+ times now.
Reality is confusing at the deeper level. Communicating about deeper levels of reality will inevitably be confusing. The fact that you can’t get past this tells me you must believe reality is clear, which is why I will ask you again - do you claim to not be confused about reality?
I don't think t_d is confused, but if he is, this inscrutable post almost certainly did nothing to alleviate his confusion.
I am perhaps slightly bemused, the only word in the English dictionary that perfectly summarizes the feelings you get when trying to look up its precise meaning.
You seem confused about pain, luxury, and politics. It’s the people who only have a casual relationship to pain that can afford to live in the political illusion.
Politics is a necessary aspect of reality. Still, one cannot impose their will on reality in any lasting way through the political, no matter how much money or power you have access to.
I will admit that luxury sometimes confuses me, mostly because much of it just seem so damn cumbersome.
Also, we seem to be in a completely different conversation now than we were just one post ago, but I'm not complaining.
Also, I don’t see myself being above discussing politics. That’s why I’ve participated here, but the political topic I care most about currently, which is assimilation in multicultural societies — this thread got locked here in less than an hour.
It’s insane to me that the educated class thinks the topic of assimilation has been solved or doesn’t need to be addressed. Simply calling people a racist is no longer going to work moving forward.
I actually care about making multiculturalism work, which requires an appreciation for solving how to unite a multicultural society from the ground up.
Also, I don’t see myself being above discussing politics. That’s why I’ve participated here, but the political topic I care most about currently, which is assimilation in multicultural societies — this thread got locked here in less than an hour.It’s insane to me that the educated class thinks the topic of assimilation has been solved or doesn’t need to be addressed. Simply cal
Multiculturalism works except where there are bigots who refuse to accept multiculturalism. Its quite simple.
Don't treat your neighbor like trash.
hey i just realized coordi's been mod for a few days now without any threads that i'm aware of calling him the next iteration of hitler
so congrats on sunrunning your first few days in office or your amazing gestapo skills at quietly shutting down dissent
Coordi has been VERY good
Multiculturalism works except where there are bigots who refuse to accept multiculturalism. Its quite simple.
Don't treat your neighbor like trash.
“Calling people racist is no longer working, so I’ll just call them a bigot instead, but only in one direction.”
Cultural tensions and clashes are not simply about race or bigotry. Culture is actually a thing that matters.
The Dems either accept this truth or continue their descent.
“Calling people racist is no longer working, so I’ll just call them a bigot instead, but only in one direction.”
Cultural tensions and clashes are not simply about race or bigotry. Culture is actually a thing that matters.
The Dems either accept this truth or continue their descent.
Well, in the US, the multicultural bigotry is one way. It goes both ways in places where religious refugees lash out at citizens for their cultural differences.
I really don't think there is going to be a new paradigm here. The bigots desperately want that to be the case but my sneaking suspicion is that this presidency is going to go more and more off the rails until the majority remember why Trump was the least liked President in all of history.
There will be an overwhelming swing back to progressivism, as there typically tends to be when conservative **** brains **** everything up
Well, in the US, the multicultural bigotry is one way. It goes both ways in places where religious refugees lash out at citizens for their cultural differences.I really don't think there is going to be a new paradigm here. The bigots desperately want that to be the case but my sneaking suspicion is that this presidency is going to go more and more off the rails until the majo
what makes you think the swing won't instead be toward centrist democrats? do you really think progressivism has room in current and near future america?
while it's very reasonable to think there will be a swing back in favor of democrats it's quite absurd to think it will be in favor of progressives.
rather, it will be centrists who don't play the horrid lurid pronouns game, who love capitalism, who love the militaries, but are democrats and moderate in foreign policy and can behave themselves in public.
purple seats will be up to grab and it will those kind of people winning them, not the trash progressives. not the people obsessed with trans issues nor the people who want the federal government to pay for illegals healthcare.
the house will very very very probably flip in 2026 but it will be 5,10,20 centrist democrats winning against moderate republicans (and some freak) .
and you won't get back SCOTUS for a generation or more so be ready for a semi-permanent upheaval in the legal realm with no "progressive" bending at all, for decades.
executive power won't have the violent absurd reach you love ever again in your life (or at least for 30+ years). gvmnt agencies will be handicapped severely with no recourse. attempts to violent push the whole nation toward progressive outcomes using the federal government will be outlawed completely.
what makes you think the swing won't instead be toward centrist democrats? do you really think progressivism has room in current and near future america?while it's very reasonable to think there will be a swing back in favor of democrats it's quite absurd to think it will be in favor of progressives.rather, it will be centrists who don't play the horrid lurid pronouns game, who
Centrism is about 10 orders of magnitude more progressive than what we are currently getting so that would still count as an overwhelming swing to progressivism, in my opinion.
People just want to be able to afford food and housing and they were told pet eating immigrants and government sponsored transition surgeries were the cause of all their problems.
Only the most brainwashed of follower and literal ****ing nazis want to turn their back on the whole world and get in bed with Russia.
That’s the point. You’ve probably stated this about my posts 5+ times now.
Reality is confusing at the deeper level. Communicating about deeper levels of reality will inevitably be confusing. The fact that you can’t get past this tells me you must believe reality is clear, which is why I will ask you again - do you claim to not be confused about reality?
Communicating with you about anything -- deeper reality, politics, baseball, the weather, anything really -- is bound to be confusing because you are consistently obscure and vague. And if someone tries to guide you in the direction of giving direct answers to direct questions, you usually disappear.
Perhaps you hope that this method of communication will convey profundity. It does not, at least in my opinion.
Well, in the US, the multicultural bigotry is one way. It goes both ways in places where religious refugees lash out at citizens for their cultural differences.I really don't think there is going to be a new paradigm here. The bigots desperately want that to be the case but my sneaking suspicion is that this presidency is going to go more and more off the rails until the majo
Multicultural issues go beyond ethnicity and immigration. The Woke are a different culture than traditional American culture, and there is plenty of bigotry there too.
Communicating with you about anything -- deeper reality, politics, baseball, the weather, anything really -- is bound to be confusing because you are consistently obscure and vague. And if someone tries to guide you in the direction of giving direct answers to direct questions, you usually disappear. Perhaps you hope that this method of communication will convey profundity.
I don’t know what you are looking for from me at this point? Your opinion has been noted. It had already been noted.
Was there an implied “..or else” that you were expecting me to agree with, to get me to conform or something?
I don’t know what you are looking for from me at this point? Your opinion has been noted. It had already been noted.
Was there an implied “..or else” that you were expecting me to agree with, to get me to conform or something?
I wasn't implying anything. There is no "or else" coming from me. I am no longer modding this forum.
I agree! That being said all you have to do to be a very good MOD is nothing. Let the people speak freely. Don't threaten them with timeouts and bans. Understand that we are never all gonna get along. Things have gone just fine with him as MOD.
We very much understand that your version of a “good mod” is anyone who will allow you to spew your specific brand of bigotry unabated.
fair point. this seems like a more recent phenomenon though. not entirely sure how it got so bad
American progressives can’t go so far that they have no American identity and no American pride.
It’s fine if you are predominantly ashamed of this country’s past, but then you must find some possible way the country can redeem itself in your eyes and derive a level of American pride from that hope. You can’t be waving a pride flag, or a Ukrainian flag, or a Mexican flag while disrespecting an American flag.
Otherwise, you are breaking the social contract in my mind.
A good rule of thumb: as much identity and pride you have in another group identity (ethnic, racial, sexual), you should strive to match that with your American identity. And if you can’t, then you should redefine American identity until you can.
In my view, multiculturalism / assimilation won’t work without this national identity and national pride, which requires constant upkeep.
